Gibson wants to leave Burnley

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by holdyourfire » Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:40 pm

Keep him and soldier on.
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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by ksrclaret » Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:43 pm

Let him go and play some football.

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by holdyourfire » Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:45 pm

If we sell him we might end up with egg on our face!

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by creepingdeath » Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:46 pm

He must be sick of our ouef-ball
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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by jojomk1 » Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:09 pm

Would any club let their 3rd choice CB (and good quality at that) go to a relegation rival who cannot defend
They would be mad, and would been seen as deserving to go down by many if such a thing happened
Almost as bad as giving another rival a decent keeper when that team don't have one due to injuries

Is it all about money - we will see

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by Winstonswhite » Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:15 pm

Categorically we cannot let him go this month. And we won’t do. There’s absolutely no benefit to us whatsoever.

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by dougcollins » Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:20 pm

How long has Mee got left?

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by jrgbfc » Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:20 pm

It didn't make much sense to let Vokes go last January but all we saw was the pound signs.

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by ksrclaret » Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:24 pm

Winstonswhite wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:15 pm
Categorically we cannot let him go this month. And we won’t do. There’s absolutely no benefit to us whatsoever.
It's sometimes about doing right by the player himself too, as was the case with Vokes and then Heaton.

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by kaptin1 » Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:27 pm

We’ve tried to build a competitive squad with two similar standard players in each position. Problem is that Dyche is so loyal to his first eleven, and particularly his centre backs, that others really struggle to get a look in. This could become a problem in future as potential new signings are likely to be put off due to the risk of not getting an opportunity, even if they are good enough. Maybe we need to rotate the squad a bit more to keep everyone happy and fresh, but when we have done this in the past it’s tended to lead to underperformance, probably because the players coming in are lacking game time. Unfortunately, we seem to do best when we have a settled side with the same eleven playing week in week out. So hard to see the approach changing.

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by Giftonsnoidea » Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:29 pm

Might be wise to loan him out with a recall option to get his value back up again

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by snapcrackleandpop » Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:30 pm

HE WANTS TO LEAVE !! The cheeky sod.

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by holdyourfire » Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:33 pm

claret10 wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:39 pm
Been told that he's a bad egg by all accounts
Unlike sam YOKES.

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by claret10 » Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:36 pm

chekhov wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:14 pm
I’ve got to say I really do hate this sort of unsubstantiated character assassination. “By all accounts”: meaning basically I’m talking out of my ar$e.
Not really....it might be completely wrong...I'm not claiming to be all knowing about all things Burnley FC...however I have been told by more than 1 person who would be decently well placed to know that he has caused some awkwardness behind the scenes

Again, as with any info that people get on here you can't claim it to be 100% truth...but considering it's a topic about him on a Burnley FC messageboard it seemed relevant to add to the discussion. FWIW if I was him I'd be a little bit cheesed off and would probably have kicked up more of a storm that he apparently has.

It's no wonder people are hesitant to post things on here with the way people get on their high horse rather than just discussing things.

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by Woodleyclaret » Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:38 pm

Makeweight for one of Norwichs stars they seem to have an endless supply of talent

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by jrgbfc » Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:54 pm

claret10 wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:36 pm
Not really....it might be completely wrong...I'm not claiming to be all knowing about all things Burnley FC...however I have been told by more than 1 person who would be decently well placed to know that he has caused some awkwardness behind the scenes

Again, as with any info that people get on here you can't claim it to be 100% truth...but considering it's a topic about him on a Burnley FC messageboard it seemed relevant to add to the discussion. FWIW if I was him I'd be a little bit cheesed off and would probably have kicked up more of a storm that he apparently has.

It's no wonder people are hesitant to post things on here with the way people get on their high horse rather than just discussing things.
I'd say both Gibson and Vydra have a right to be royally ****** off tbh.

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by bfcjg » Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:57 pm

Hardly a classic transfer coop.

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:58 pm

kaptin1 wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:27 pm
We’ve tried to build a competitive squad with two similar standard players in each position. Problem is that Dyche is so loyal to his first eleven, and particularly his centre backs, that others really struggle to get a look in. This could become a problem in future as potential new signings are likely to be put off due to the risk of not getting an opportunity, even if they are good enough. Maybe we need to rotate the squad a bit more to keep everyone happy and fresh, but when we have done this in the past it’s tended to lead to underperformance, probably because the players coming in are lacking game time. Unfortunately, we seem to do best when we have a settled side with the same eleven playing week in week out. So hard to see the approach changing.
exactly this

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by icu81b4 » Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:15 pm

kaptin1 wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:27 pm
We’ve tried to build a competitive squad with two similar standard players in each position. Problem is that Dyche is so loyal to his first eleven, and particularly his centre backs, that others really struggle to get a look in. This could become a problem in future as potential new signings are likely to be put off due to the risk of not getting an opportunity, even if they are good enough. Maybe we need to rotate the squad a bit more to keep everyone happy and fresh, but when we have done this in the past it’s tended to lead to underperformance, probably because the players coming in are lacking game time. Unfortunately, we seem to do best when we have a settled side with the same eleven playing week in week out. So hard to see the approach changing.
This is why Cup competitions are good to be a continued part of, and not crashing out at the first opportunity (hopefully). It gives those bench warmers a chance to show SD what they are capable of under match conditions.

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by Burnleyareback2 » Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:18 pm

ashtonlongsider wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 3:35 pm
Another player we'll never know how good he could have been because he wasn't given a chance. I wouldn't blame him if he wanted out, only surprise is it's taken so long.
Or we could just be happy we have better players ahead of him?

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by jrgbfc » Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:24 pm

Burnleyareback2 wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:18 pm
Or we could just be happy we have better players ahead of him?
Is Ben Mee better than Gibson though? The year we won the Championship Gibson and Michael Keane were the best centre backs in the league by a mile.

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by Burnleyareback2 » Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:27 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:24 pm
Is Ben Mee better than Gibson though? The year we won the Championship Gibson and Michael Keane were the best centre backs in the league by a mile.
Club captain and much more league experience, better player - probably now down to experience and development.

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by arise_sir_charge » Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:29 pm

Gibson is far more or a mystery than Vydra to me.

How he’s not been given a chance is a mystery. It seems Ben Mee is simply undroppable despite us having a lad that beat him to the England squad sat in reserve.

Also all this talk of “bad eggs”......utter shite.

If it’s all true we’ve gone from not signing any bad eggs in Dyche’s tenure to buying 3 (if you believe everyone dislikes Hart) in the space of about ten days in August 2018. Not likely.

The problem is Dyche’s loyalty. Admiral in some instances, totally constipating and stifling in others.

This is one of the “others”.

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by jrgbfc » Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:42 pm

Burnleyareback2 wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:27 pm
Club captain and much more league experience, better player - probably now down to experience and development.
Only one of them has been in England squads and linked with the big boys though, and it ain't Ben Mee. But I get that it's hard for Dyche to drop the club captain.

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by Burnleyareback2 » Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:53 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:42 pm
Only one of them has been in England squads and linked with the big boys though, and it ain't Ben Mee. But I get that it's hard for Dyche to drop the club captain.
And only weeks ago we are all wondering why Ben hasn't had an England call up this season.
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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by ClaretEngineer » Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:28 pm

This is Ben Mee has been an excellent player and servant to our club, if he was just that bit better he wouldn’t be playing for us. He’s had for more good games than bad ones, so I think even after a few bad games it’d be the wrong thing to do drop him.

It’s the same in any job, everyone is quick to jump on your mistakes but rarely is praise given for all the good work you do.

We pride ourselves on being a solid defensive unit and that relies on having a strong and stable partnership at the back.

We should be happy we have a tough pair of centre halves that injuries have been kind to so far.

Tough luck for Gibson though, and I doubt he was promised to be a 1st team starter. For his own sake he needs to be out playing football. Surprised Boro haven’t come back in for him.

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by Safron » Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:35 pm

We aren't a good advert for potential signings,who would seriously consider joining us with our record of yearly benchwarmers,I'm sure players talk to each other from other club's,and wouldn't be surprised for players to be warned off us,I bet even players agents warn them off🤔
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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by arise_sir_charge » Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:43 pm

Burnleyareback2 wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:53 pm
And only weeks ago we are all wondering why Ben hasn't had an England call up this season.
Not all of us.

Ben Mee is never an England centre half.

He’s a solid, very dependable stopper and has been very good for us. Gibson may be better. It seems we won’t find out.

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by Rileybobs » Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:23 pm

If Gibson is so much better than Mee then why is he being linked with a club 5 points adrift at the bottom of the league?

It’s tough luck for Gibson, I sympathise with him, but unfortunately he’s deemed our 3rd or 4th best centre back and I’ve not seen anything to suggest that he isn’t.

It would only take an injury for Mee for Gibson to have a chance but fortunately for us, and unfortunately for Gibson, Mee is virtually an ever present.

As with other threads, people are very quick to turn on our players after a few bad performances. Mee has been a great servant to Burnley and if anything is still improving.
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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by arise_sir_charge » Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:30 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:23 pm
If Gibson is so much better than Mee then why is he being linked with a club 5 points adrift at the bottom of the league?

It’s tough luck for Gibson, I sympathise with him, but unfortunately he’s deemed our 3rd or 4th best centre back and I’ve not seen anything to suggest that he isn’t.

It would only take an injury for Mee for Gibson to have a chance but fortunately for us, and unfortunately for Gibson, Mee is virtually an ever present.

As with other threads, people are very quick to turn on our players after a few bad performances. Mee has been a great servant to Burnley and if anything is still improving.
Because it’s 18 months plus since he had any meaningful action.

Not turning on Mee, I’ve always thought he’s steady and can’t deny he’s been good for us. Don’t believe he’s this undroppable demi God others see him as.

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by dsr » Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:57 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:24 pm
Is Ben Mee better than Gibson though? The year we won the Championship Gibson and Michael Keane were the best centre backs in the league by a mile.
How do you work that out? Ben Mee played 23 games at centre back and we were unbeaten in those 23. What did Gibson do that was so very much better?

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by NewClaret » Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:16 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:38 pm
Makeweight for one of Norwichs stars they seem to have an endless supply of talent
Swap deal with Aarons will do nicely 8-)

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by Goobs » Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:16 am

If I was Dyche I'd say to him Omletting you go once I have a replacement.

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by NewClaret » Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:20 am

Will be very disappointed if he leaves, particularly to Norwich. It’s reassuring to have him as back up to Tarks/Mee and we should be looking to have this standard of replacement in all positions. I can understand his position though. Gut feel is he is going with his mystery injury for the cup game & Dunnes recall

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by superdimitri » Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:44 am

Inevitable really, only so long until players are complaining about not getting a chance.

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by mickleoverclaret » Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:32 am

jrgbfc wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:24 pm
Would have loved to see him given a chance after the Everton home game last Boxing Day. Ben Mee could have had no complaints if he was dropped along with Hart.
He played half of that Everton game though and got hooked at half time because he was rubbish.

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:27 am

jrgbfc wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:54 pm
I'd say both Gibson and Vydra have a right to be royally ****** off tbh.


But not as upset as you

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:23 am

If we don't sell Gibson he goes into his last year of his contract that he can run down for a bumper deal.

The club can't afford to do this with players.

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:25 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:23 am
If we don't sell Gibson he goes into his last year of his contract that he can run down for a bumper deal.

The club can't afford to do this with players.
Gibson's contract is until 2022

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:32 am

That's better for us.

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by jrgbfc » Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:57 am

mickleoverclaret wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:32 am
He played half of that Everton game though and got hooked at half time because he was rubbish.
He was no worse than anyone else that day. Ben Mee had been poor the entire first half of the season.
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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by ClaretinJapan » Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:10 am

Surprised someone hasn't already poached him tbh. Sure to be late scramble though.

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by Darnhill Claret » Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:14 am

With 3 quality centre backs, it might have paid dividends to try and persist with 3 at the back.

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by claretcarrot93 » Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:26 am

jrgbfc wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:57 am
He was no worse than anyone else that day. Ben Mee had been poor the entire first half of the season.
Thats the sort of thing people are judging him on. The whole team was terrible that day like they were first half of that season. Mee has been fantastic for us but he has his limitations on the ball and has a mistake in him. It looked like the Gibson signing was an upgrade on Mee. Younger better on the ball and had already had England call ups. Lads never been given a chance to show that and he should move for the good of his career.

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by BOYSIE31 » Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:56 am

He needs to leave for his career - strange signing and in the long term would be better than Mee but a quality player

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Re: Gibson wants to leave Burnley

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:58 am

Hard to believe so many hammer Dyche for playing Gibson in the Europa league claiming it to be a weakened side with him in it, especially when some of the same posters are saying he should be playing more.

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