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Jimmy Anderson out of series

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:27 pm
by ClaretTony
Big blow for us - he misses the rest of the series with the side injury picked up yesterday

Re: Jimmy Anderson out of series

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:37 pm
by jrgbfc
Might not be a bad idea for Jimmy to have one last hurrah in England this summer and then call it a day? I know he wants to carry on but it seems like his fitness is letting him down more and more. Chance to finish on a high, would be such a shame if his career ended by limping out of a series halfway through.

Re: Jimmy Anderson out of series

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:38 pm
by MACCA
Massive blow for England.

Another few games missed, where he had a real chance of taking a good amount of wickets.

I fear everytime I hear him injured, that I might not see him bowl again.

Re: Jimmy Anderson out of series

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:46 pm
by MrTopTier
Not again, is he made of glass, time we shifted him on, Dyche out ;)

Re: Jimmy Anderson out of series

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:50 pm
by ClaretTony
Side strains are a fairly common injury for quick bowlers and they usually take a few weeks to clear up. I did think his injury last summer might have finished him but I doubt this will be nothing other than a few weeks out.

Re: Jimmy Anderson out of series

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:58 pm
by Burnley1989
He’s had 2 injuries, one after each other but other than that he historically does extremely well for his age and the fact he’s a seamer.

Don’t write him off just yet :D

Re: Jimmy Anderson out of series

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:03 pm
by Dark Cloud
He goes to the same doctor as JBG. (It was Walters who kindly recommended him apparently! :roll: )

Re: Jimmy Anderson out of series

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:03 pm
by ClaretTony
Burnley1989 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:58 pm
He’s had 2 injuries, one after each other but other than that he historically does extremely well for his age and the fact he’s a seamer.

Don’t write him off just yet :D
For his age and the fact that he's an opening bowler, he's done really well injury wise. A side strain is the sort of thing that happens. The worst injury was around 2006 when he had the back problem.

Re: Jimmy Anderson out of series

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:24 pm
by Local cricketer
Think he might get a few games for Burnley just to ease himself back in come April.

It's happened before

Re: Jimmy Anderson out of series

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:32 pm
by fatboy47
Despite all the fart gas and wind spouted about various English bowlers over recent years, Anderson is the only truly consistently world class pace bowler we've had for a very long time.

There is some real dross around masquerading as England test bowlers...some of them wouldnt have got a game of county cricket back in the day.

Re: Jimmy Anderson out of series

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:33 pm
by WestMidsClaret
Reckon he'll want to play in the next ashes.

Re: Jimmy Anderson out of series

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:37 pm
by dandeclaret
MACCA wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:38 pm
Massive blow for England.

Another few games missed, where he had a real chance of taking a good amount of wickets.

I fear everytime I hear him injured, that I might not see him bowl again.
Recency bias 101

Re: Jimmy Anderson out of series

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:37 pm
by Burnley1989
ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:03 pm
For his age and the fact that he's an opening bowler, he's done really well injury wise. A side strain is the sort of thing that happens. The worst injury was around 2006 when he had the back problem.
You do wonder how many more wickets he’d have taken if Lancashire hadn't tried to change his bowling action all those years ago

Re: Jimmy Anderson out of series

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:39 pm
by Spijed
fatboy47 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:32 pm
Despite all the fart gas and wind spouted about various English bowlers over recent years, Anderson is the only truly consistently world class pace bowler we've had for a very long time.

There is some real dross around masquerading as England test bowlers...some of them wouldnt have got a game of county cricket back in the day.
A big worry when him and Broad fully retire.

Re: Jimmy Anderson out of series

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:03 pm
by ClaretTony
Burnley1989 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:37 pm
You do wonder how many more wickets he’d have taken if Lancashire hadn't tried to change his bowling action all those years ago
Was it Lancs or was it the England bowling coach at the time?

Re: Jimmy Anderson out of series

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:15 pm
by Local cricketer
ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:03 pm
Was it Lancs or was it the England bowling coach at the time?
Troy Cooley, who is now in charge off Hazelwood, Cummins and the rest

Re: Jimmy Anderson out of series

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:24 pm
by Quickenthetempo
6 weeks out worst scenario.

I wouldn't of taken him to Sri Lanka anyway.

Just get him ready for the home series in the summer.

Re: Jimmy Anderson out of series

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:55 pm
by Silkyskills1
Burnley1989 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:37 pm
You do wonder how many more wickets he’d have taken if Lancashire hadn't tried to change his bowling action all those years ago
Or did he amass his wicket haul as a result of changing his action?

Re: Jimmy Anderson out of series

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:09 pm
by Quickenthetempo
Silkyskills1 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:55 pm
Or did he amass his wicket haul as a result of changing his action?
He changed back quite quickly as it wasn't working.

Re: Jimmy Anderson out of series

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:10 pm
by tiger76
Pity just as Jimmy was getting back to his best,hope Jofra's fit for the next test otherwise England really will be stretched.

Broad,Archer,Sam Curran and maybe Ben Stokes is still a decent attack,but there's doubts about how many overs Archer and Stokes can manage between them,i suppose if Dom Bess can hold up an end to allow Root to rotate the quicks that'll help,i can't see Craig Overton being called up unless he's the only option,but ideally Broad would be rested at some point over the winter,the last thing England want is for him to break down as well.

Re: Jimmy Anderson out of series

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:11 pm
by ClaretTony
Silkyskills1 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:55 pm
Or did he amass his wicket haul as a result of changing his action?
No. He went back to how it had been. He lost wickets and appearances because of them trying to change him.

Re: Jimmy Anderson out of series

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:13 pm
by dandeclaret
fatboy47 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:32 pm
Despite all the fart gas and wind spouted about various English bowlers over recent years, Anderson is the only truly consistently world class pace bowler we've had for a very long time.

There is some real dross around masquerading as England test bowlers...some of them wouldnt have got a game of county cricket back in the day.

very, very, very Harsh on Stuart Broad that.

Re: Jimmy Anderson out of series

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:21 pm
by Buxtonclaret
Spijed wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:39 pm
A big worry when him and Broad fully retire.
We'll know what the Windies felt like then, when they lost Walsh & Ambrose.
Anderson & Broad are a great double act.

Re: Jimmy Anderson out of series

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:09 pm
by Quickenthetempo
Quickenthetempo wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:24 pm
6 weeks out worst scenario.

I wouldn't of taken him to Sri Lanka anyway.

Just get him ready for the home series in the summer.
Jimmy has confirmed he has a broken rib, so the 6 weeks is likely.
I don't know if the top medical teams available to him can do any more than the rest needed.

Re: Jimmy Anderson out of series

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:13 pm
by Quickenthetempo
ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:11 pm
No. He went back to how it had been. He lost wickets and appearances because of them trying to change him.
I don't think Michael Vaughan wanted him in the side either.
Not that he would admit it now.

Re: Jimmy Anderson out of series

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:55 pm
by ClaretTony
Quickenthetempo wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:13 pm
I don't think Michael Vaughan wanted him in the side either.
Not that he would admit it now.
I think that was very much the case.

Re: Jimmy Anderson out of series

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:24 pm
by Andreshotboots
Inevitable the amount of time he's been out that he would pick another strain up. Quick bowling is a massive strain for the human body even if you're a super fit 21 year old. On the plus side, he'll be able to get some golf in at nelson this year when fit as his old man is the captain this year. :D

Re: Jimmy Anderson out of series

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:11 pm
by Buxtonclaret
Quickenthetempo wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:13 pm
I don't think Michael Vaughan wanted him in the side either.
Not that he would admit it now.
Think that was the time they brought Saggers back in, at Leeds. Forget who against.
Vaughan reportedly had him as ' captains' pick ahead of Jimmy, when he'd got himself fit again and was raring to go.
Outrageous, as it seems, Jimmy's face really didn't fit around then.
Only for a very short time though.
The rest is history at its best!

Re: Jimmy Anderson out of series

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:16 pm
by Quickenthetempo
Andreshotboots wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:24 pm
Inevitable the amount of time he's been out that he would pick another strain up. Quick bowling is a massive strain for the human body even if you're a super fit 21 year old. On the plus side, he'll be able to get some golf in at nelson this year when fit as his old man is the captain this year. :D
He jibbed out on coming Sheff Utd away with us as a golf tournament had been rearranged.
He got lucky really.

Re: Jimmy Anderson out of series

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:04 am
by Colburn_Claret
Gutted for him, we will struggle without him.

Re: Jimmy Anderson out of series

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 1:35 pm
by fatboy47
dandeclaret wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:13 pm
very, very, very Harsh on Stuart Broad that.
can't agreee dande..even given the statstcal similarities.

I'm happy to mention Anderson n the same breath as the true world class greats of the game...Warne, McGrath, Lillee ,Ambrose, Murali...but Broads name doesnt join that list for me. He's become a solid test performer and can hit the seam consistently..and hes up there in test terms. Anderson is imo the best swing bowler in test history..and then some.

Re: Jimmy Anderson out of series

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 3:36 pm
by TVC15
He’s 37 and I’m not sure the last time he lasted a full test series without picking up an injury.
To play at the level he has for so long is remarkable but I think he is not far from calling it a day now for England and probably all cricket. It’s tough for the selectors too knowing there is a big chance he won’t last a series but that he is still often the best bowler.

Whatever happens he’s going to go down as one of the best bowlers in the history of the game and I still think it’s a bit surreal that he’s from Burnley.