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Post by Jakubclaret » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:14 am

Hi everybody, I'm thinking of buying 1 & to be honest I'm not that familiar with them, I believe most work with android/apple, my budgets about £100, I'm just looking for recommendations ideally from people who use them & then I can do my own research before buying, thanks.

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Post by 1fatclaret » Thu Jan 09, 2020 5:53 am

It depends what you want to use it for? Is it for recording fitness activity, if so, what? Or is it for notifications from your phone?

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Post by The Enclosure » Thu Jan 09, 2020 6:17 am

You need to be paying about 4 grand for a watch or it will be crap :D

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Post by superdimitri » Thu Jan 09, 2020 6:21 am

Just skip the watch, get an implant instead.

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Post by Jakubclaret » Thu Jan 09, 2020 7:40 am

1fatclaret wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 5:53 am
It depends what you want to use it for? Is it for recording fitness activity, if so, what? Or is it for notifications from your phone?
All of them things, I'm not interested in a esim 1, bluetooth operating radius is sufficient, thanks.

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Post by Zlatan » Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:17 am

I have a Xiaomi Mi Band 4 - which isn't necessarily a smart watch but it does fitness tracking etc and notifications etc to my iPhone. It also has a real battery life of about 20 days between charging, and it also has a surprisingly accurate heart monitor that can monitor your heart rate every minute and give you a chart of you info along with your resting heart rate etc. I've had the earlier Mi Band 2 before this and that lasted 3 years (and is still working!) before I got the 4 about 6 months ago.

What I personally find frustrating is that there is no easy way to export your data, there are some tools but it's not great, so it depends upon what you want.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fitness-Blueto ... 572&sr=8-3

the other downside is that you are logging all your data to a server in China, and conspiracy theorists will have a field day with that type of Big Data ;)

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Post by Jakubclaret » Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:24 am

Zlatan wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:17 am
I have a Xiaomi Mi Band 4 - which isn't necessarily a smart watch but it does fitness tracking etc and notifications etc to my iPhone. It also has a real battery life of about 20 days between charging, and it also has a surprisingly accurate heart monitor that can monitor your heart rate every minute and give you a chart of you info along with your resting heart rate etc. I've had the earlier Mi Band 2 before this and that lasted 3 years (and is still working!) before I got the 4 about 6 months ago.

What I personally find frustrating is that there is no easy way to export your data, there are some tools but it's not great, so it depends upon what you want.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fitness-Blueto ... 572&sr=8-3

the other downside is that you are logging all your data to a server in China, and conspiracy theorists will have a field day with that type of Big Data ;)
Why do you need to export your data? If the watch is synced to the phone will the phone or the watch itself not display the data, I was looking at the xiaomi mi mix 5g as I know 5G will be available this year even though 5g & 4g will be transitional for awhile after until 4g is completely phased out.

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Post by Zlatan » Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:30 am

Jakubclaret wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:24 am
Why do you need to export your data? If the watch is synced to the phone will the phone or the watch itself not display the data, I was looking at the xiaomi mi mix 5g as I know 5G will be available this year even though 5g & 4g will be transitional for awhile after until 4g is completely phased out.
Only wanted to export so that I could manipulate the data myself in Excel etc and get some interesting charts, and so that I could pass onto my medical team. It does show all the data on the app.

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Post by Jakubclaret » Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:32 am

Zlatan wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:30 am
Only wanted to export so that I could manipulate the data myself in Excel etc and get some interesting charts, and so that I could pass onto my medical team. It does show all the data on the app.
So a recognised dedicated app is available on google play & iTunes for this watch.

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Post by ClaretAndJew » Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:33 am

Fitbit Charge 3 currently £94 on Amazon.

Not the fanciest but good build quality and everything you need.

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Post by Zlatan » Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:40 am

Jakubclaret wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:32 am
So a recognised dedicated app is available on google play & iTunes for this watch.
https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/mi-fit/id938688461

on iTunes and android - other half had an android phone for a while and the app was occasionally flaky for her. It also does fairly good sleep monitoring too, which again seems accurate as it correlates to my CPAP device for the quality of sleep etc.

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Post by Longsidelenny » Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:33 am

Bought a watch on colne market £3 took it home all the family said that is smart so that will do for me utc
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Post by Dixie Normous » Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:01 am

Christ it’s a minefield with these watches . I bought a ticwatch pro first . It was fine and cheaper and had good reviews . Worth checking out . I finally stumped up arm and leg for a garmin but it’s fantastic as a GPS watch for outdoors .
If you want an everyday watch with smart features get an Apple Watch 3 . They are going cheap , new about 190 . Does everything your phone does . Calendar , reminders , fitness , messages , maps, they are nearer too much smaller than the hefty outdoor smart watches . Avoid cheap knock offs they disappoint and you’ll never use them .
The Apple Watch 3 is not much different from the latest Apple Watch 4 . Hard to spot the difference
Get in touch if you fancy the ticwatch

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Post by houseboy » Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:06 am

There a lot of good ones around without spending a fortune but steer well clear of the Fitbit HR. Absolute garbage. I have one and the same problem is happening to people all over the world (literally). The step counter is total garbage and on mine is consistently 20/25% out in overcount. It has some qualities like the heart rate monitor and time keeping for my workouts but I am on a Fitbit forum and the concensus from just about everone is if you want a step counter or calorie counter steer well clear. The company keep promising to get it right but are doing sod all. I don't know how they have haven't been sued before now for trade descriptions. Other Fitbit products are apparently fine but the HR should be shelved.

Incidentally I use for extremely high accuracy a couple of telephone apps that are both free to download (you can pay for extras but they are not really needed) and they are compatible for synchronicity. Pacer is the best step counter I know (but obviously you have to have your phone on you), I have tested this numerous times since I got it 2/3 years ago and it is accurate to within about half a dozen steps per thousand. To go with it I use My Fitness Pal which gives you anything you really need free (unless you are a fanatic) and synchs with the Pacer so you don't have to input steps. You can record food and nutritional values and it even gives you a breakdown of what you need to take in foodwise to lose/maintain/gain weight. When I first tried it I was shocked at how well it worked. You can also input any other excercise (other than steps because Pacer will do that autopmatically) like weight training (which I do) or swimming/football etc you name it and it will automatically calculate energy usage and input it into your daily stats.

The apps are free and smart watches generally tend to cost a bit, especially if you want a good one. I would suggest trying these before parting with your hard earned.

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Post by Funkydrummer » Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:49 pm

I do feel that I'm missing out on not having one.
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Post by conyoviejo » Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:56 pm

Funkydrummer wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:49 pm
I do feel that I'm missing out on not having one.
Same here,it's awful being a Luddite.. :D
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Post by Funkydrummer » Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:59 pm

Do you think that we'll live to dirty another shirt ?

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Re: Smart watches.

Post by Belial » Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:07 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:14 am
Hi everybody, I'm thinking of buying 1 & to be honest I'm not that familiar with them, I believe most work with android/apple, my budgets about £100, I'm just looking for recommendations ideally from people who use them & then I can do my own research before buying, thanks.
I got the Garmin Vivoactive 3 from John Lewis last week for £130 with a discount through Mrs's work (was £136 at the time)

https://www.johnlewis.com/garmin-vivoac ... r/p3334004

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Post by Jakubclaret » Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:38 pm

Belial wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:07 pm
I got the Garmin Vivoactive 3 from John Lewis last week for £130 with a discount through Mrs's work (was £136 at the time)

https://www.johnlewis.com/garmin-vivoac ... r/p3334004
Is the initial feedback impressive or is it too early to say?

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Post by Dixie Normous » Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:54 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:38 pm
Is the initial feedback impressive or is it too early to say?
All depends on what you want it for . It’s touch screen which rules it out for me . When you’re in dirt and mud or wearing gloves touch screen is no good . Those big buttons are easier . If it’s for everyday fitness it should be ok.

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Post by Jakubclaret » Thu Jan 09, 2020 11:08 pm

Dixie Normous wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:54 pm
All depends on what you want it for . It’s touch screen which rules it out for me . When you’re in dirt and mud or wearing gloves touch screen is no good . Those big buttons are easier . If it’s for everyday fitness it should be ok.
Without owning 1, I understand, ideal for clean warm environments such as a gym, out walking the dogs on a freezing cold night thru muddy fields not so ideal, thanks now I know not what to buy.

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Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Thu Jan 09, 2020 11:09 pm

I managed to pick up the Samsung Gear 3 46mm in the black Friday deals at half price. Superb bit of kit imo and worth every penny

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Post by atlantalad » Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:11 am

Mine ticks










Boom 💥






And tells the time 🙂

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Post by Belial » Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:24 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:38 pm
Is the initial feedback impressive or is it too early to say?
Hi mate - so far so good. It's been quite handy to see sleep patterns, stress level, steps, stairs, HR etc., and I've just done a couple of different types of exercise routines with it this week, both with success. I have two other watches which are much more expensive but aren't smartwatches like this - so I'll probably still wear these for most occasions but I can see this coming in handy for routines/gym/biking/walks/sleep etc. There also seems to be a lot of things which I've still got to get used to like it's own exercise routines for example, and online stuff

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Post by Flat Stanley » Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:01 pm

I have a Garmin Forerunner 35. It cost £94 from Amazon and has GPS built in. I got it for running but it also monitors steps, heart rate, sleep etc. It can used used for running, cycling, cardio, walking. The GPS can be used without a phone and you can update to Strava or the Garmin app when finished. The battery life is good and it doesn't take long to fully recharge. Iv'e been very impressed with it so far.

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Post by CombatClaret » Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:09 pm

Garmin Vivoactive 3 owner of about a year and a half and very happy.

Cycling was my focus so needed something with inbuilt GPS so I could leave the phone at home. Since used it for swimming, treadmill, all links to Strava with really interesting data.
Good clear screen and with it round bezel it doesn't look like it's trying too hard to be a fitness watch.

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Post by RMutt » Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:25 pm

I saw an old mate struggling through Burnley bus station with two huge and obviously heavy suitcases the other day. I said, ‘Have you got the time?’
He put down the suitcases and glanced at his wrist. ‘It's a quarter to six,’
I noticed he had a smart watch and said so.
‘Yeah, it's the best there is’, he said. He showed me that it did all the top smart watch stuff but it also had a load of other extra functions. It could project the screen onto a wall for watching movies, it had virtual surround sound. It could work out from your heart rate whether you needed to eat and what the meal should be for optimum energy. All the other functions would put Q from James Bond to shame. He said it was a development model his company were working on and there were very few about.
I asked if I could buy one.
‘Oh, no, it's not ready for sale yet; I'm still working on the bug fixes.’ He said.
I tried to persuade him to sell me his.
‘No, you don't understand; it's not ready’
‘I'll give you £500 for it!’ I said
‘It’s not really mine to sell’ he said
‘OK, I'll give you £1000 for it!’
‘£1500 in cash and you can have this one on my wrist’ he eventually said
I gave him the cash and he handed over the watch.
I put it on, we said our goodbyes and I started to walk away.
Then I heard him shout after me, he was pointing down to the suitcases.
‘Don't forget your batteries!’
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Post by Flying Without Ings » Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:38 pm

Flat Stanley wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:01 pm
I have a Garmin Forerunner 35. It cost £94 from Amazon and has GPS built in. I got it for running but it also monitors steps, heart rate, sleep etc. It can used used for running, cycling, cardio, walking. The GPS can be used without a phone and you can update to Strava or the Garmin app when finished. The battery life is good and it doesn't take long to fully recharge. Iv'e been very impressed with it so far.
Just purchased this exact one! Waiting for it to be delivered. I wanted to find the cheapest GPS watch out there that syncs with Strava, because I hate having to run with my phone on me. Is it straight forward to set up and sync with Strava?

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Post by Dixie Normous » Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:19 pm

Flying Without Ings wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:38 pm
Just purchased this exact one! Waiting for it to be delivered. I wanted to find the cheapest GPS watch out there that syncs with Strava, because I hate having to run with my phone on me. Is it straight forward to set up and sync with Strava?
Yeah Garmin connect and strava works well
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Post by bfcjg » Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:27 pm

Mine doesn't tell the time...I have to look at it.

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Post by Dixie Normous » Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:27 pm

I love watches . Who’s got what ? Daily I wear Apple Watch but love my g10 old school wind up too.
Outdoors it’s the tough as feck Garmin Fenix with 2 week battery life .
Got a Seiko XK another wind up which needs no battery so all good .
I couldn’t decide on a Smart watch that met all requirements so the Apple is great for every day wear, messaging, calendar , paying for things. Fenix when out in the woods.
You can get an Apple Watch 3 for 180 new . Fenix needs a bloody mortgage . G10 issued so buckshee. Seiko great looking for dress up about a ton.

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Post by icu81b4 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:13 pm

I have a Breitling that looks smart and is self winding, that's pretty radical I think.

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Post by JohnMac » Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:46 pm

I wear a G Shock Solar and a Fitbit Inspire for everyday use, happy with both and they are often too smart for their own good!

I wanted a new dress watch that was different to the pack and eventually bought a Skagen Titanium. Simple, elegant and affordable.

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Post by Jakubclaret » Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:41 pm

JohnMac wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:46 pm
I wear a G Shock Solar and a Fitbit Inspire for everyday use, happy with both and they are often too smart for their own good!

I wanted a new dress watch that was different to the pack and eventually bought a Skagen Titanium. Simple, elegant and affordable.
Hi, I'll take a look at that watch, on a scale of 1-10 1 being poor & 10 being excellent, overall what rating would you give, thanks?

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Post by FactualFrank » Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:07 pm

Belial wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:07 pm
I got the Garmin Vivoactive 3 from John Lewis last week for £130 with a discount through Mrs's work (was £136 at the time)

https://www.johnlewis.com/garmin-vivoac ... r/p3334004
Is the HR accurate?

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Post by Flat Stanley » Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:35 pm

Flying Without Ings wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:38 pm
Just purchased this exact one! Waiting for it to be delivered. I wanted to find the cheapest GPS watch out there that syncs with Strava, because I hate having to run with my phone on me. Is it straight forward to set up and sync with Strava?
Yes found it easy to set up and Sync with Strava. Got mine for the same reasons you did. For the price it is excellent value in my opinion.

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Post by Bop » Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:39 pm

Do you mean a dress watch?

Everyday watch
Sports watch
Dress watch

What’s smart?

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Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:41 pm

I have 3 Tissot. My prize possession being a 1967 Seastar in mint condition with original leather strap, box, paperwork and purchase receipt. It cost me a bob or two but will hopefully increase in value.

My now daily watch being the aforementioned Samsung Gear 3

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Post by JohnMac » Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:19 am

Jakubclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:41 pm
Hi, I'll take a look at that watch, on a scale of 1-10 1 being poor & 10 being excellent, overall what rating would you give, thanks?
It's just a simple tell the time and date which I like and is very slim. I'm not a fan of the blingy chunky dress watch or one's with a face like a Grandfather clock!

A solid 8 for looks and 10 for value.
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Post by KlyBfc » Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:16 am

Im intrigued to know how the Garmin wearers find their watches. I’m after getting one too as I’m fed up of carrying my phone in my pocket and also how it often cuts my run mileage short by half a mile when I compare it to the route planners on line and my mates garmin.

I’ve been trying to decide on Garmins 35 (cheaper) 45 (new model) or the 235.

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Post by Belial » Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:02 am

FactualFrank wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:07 pm
Is the HR accurate?
So far so good. When I first put it on, it seemed to be around the 69/70 mark which is too high, but it seemed like it needed to get used to me and when I check back over the day, it does give the values I'd expect (resting around 55, doing weights upto about 110 etc.)

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Post by Belial » Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:03 am

KlyBfc wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:16 am
Im intrigued to know how the Garmin wearers find their watches. I’m after getting one too as I’m fed up of carrying my phone in my pocket and also how it often cuts my run mileage short by half a mile when I compare it to the route planners on line and my mates garmin.

I’ve been trying to decide on Garmins 35 (cheaper) 45 (new model) or the 235.
Mine's all good so far (see above)

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Post by Dixie Normous » Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:28 am

KlyBfc wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:16 am
Im intrigued to know how the Garmin wearers find their watches. I’m after getting one too as I’m fed up of carrying my phone in my pocket and also how it often cuts my run mileage short by half a mile when I compare it to the route planners on line and my mates garmin.

I’ve been trying to decide on Garmins 35 (cheaper) 45 (new model) or the 235.
When I first got the thing (fenix 5 plus) I felt a bit overwhelmed , it had so many things on it and figuring it out took a while . I wanted it because of the famed two week battery life and its great maps .
I got some maps from talkytoaster free and they are good . The inbuilt maos don’t vector so are jumpy when zooming in . Loading routes and finding your way is easy . The phone shows and tells you where to go . Better than a paper map ? Yeah . You can preload routes and it tells you the elevation and shows contours. It is positively anoraky about collecting stats on any sport .
It has great ‘loop’ feature for running , wherever you are it will find you and tell you a few options for a running loop.
It’s the battery life that wins it for me . You can’t risk relying on one of these things and your battery dying on a long trip .
I use mine with paper map to find a reading , punch it in the phone and it takes me home .

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Post by Dixie Normous » Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:36 am

I’m thinking watches are to fellas what shoes are to women .
So if you are outdoorsy or sporting you need a smart watch .
For every day you need a ‘beater ‘ solid nice looking thing that fits work life . Apple Watch or a lovely wind up classic like SKX .
Then for dressing up which I rarely do these days you need a pretty thing , the thinner the better in my opinion . Less is more .

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Post by FactualFrank » Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:47 am

Belial wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:02 am
So far so good. When I first put it on, it seemed to be around the 69/70 mark which is too high, but it seemed like it needed to get used to me and when I check back over the day, it does give the values I'd expect (resting around 55, doing weights upto about 110 etc.)
Yeah, from what I've read it seems they are 95% accurate for 95% of the time, depending on the exercise. Mountain bike riding for instance is likely to show more inaccuracies than if you were spinning or walking.

So perhaps not something to take as gospel. The most accurate seem to be the Polar chest-straps.

I guess it depends on what you're wanting the watch for.

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Re: Smart watches.

Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:55 pm

JohnMac wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:19 am
It's just a simple tell the time and date which I like and is very slim. I'm not a fan of the blingy chunky dress watch or one's with a face like a Grandfather clock!

A solid 8 for looks and 10 for value.

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Thanks, its a nice stylish watch but it needs to be a smart watch & not just a normal watch.

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Re: Smart watches.

Post by 1fatclaret » Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:04 pm

KlyBfc wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:16 am
Im intrigued to know how the Garmin wearers find their watches. I’m after getting one too as I’m fed up of carrying my phone in my pocket and also how it often cuts my run mileage short by half a mile when I compare it to the route planners on line and my mates garmin.

I’ve been trying to decide on Garmins 35 (cheaper) 45 (new model) or the 235.
I have the forerunner 735 and the mrs has the 235. Superb bits of kit. Sync with garmin app and then to Strava is simple and works (unlike the Tom Tom I used to have). Loads of functions, including plotting a route that you can then follow, training plans, performance statistic etc.

Only slight gripe is that when we do the same run together, the mrs watch says she has done about 10% more! Really annoying as that then says she’s faster than me....

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