ARTICLE: Barnes and JBG ruled out for Chelsea

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Re: BARNES-HOW LONG OUT

Post by Woodleyclaret » Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:52 pm

We need a loanee cover

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Re: BARNES-HOW LONG OUT

Post by ksrclaret » Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:53 pm

TOUCH AND GO!!!!!!!!

SHOULD BE BACK ON THE GRASS NEXT MONTH!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: BARNES-HOW LONG OUT

Post by Funkydrummer » Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:53 pm

Not this season I wouldn't think.

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Re: BARNES-HOW LONG OUT

Post by Burnley1989 » Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:54 pm

Especially with the Wood to Spurs rumours circulating now Kane has been ruled out

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Re: BARNES-HOW LONG OUT

Post by Funkydrummer » Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:55 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:54 pm
Especially with the Wood to Spurs rumours circulating now Kane has been ruled out
Silliest post this year to date. Like it. :lol: :lol:

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Re: BARNES-HOW LONG OUT

Post by evensteadiereddie » Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:55 pm

Wood to Spurs, as if.

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Re: BARNES-HOW LONG OUT

Post by warksclaret » Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:59 pm

WOW-we really do need cover if out this entire season

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Re: BARNES-HOW LONG OUT

Post by bobinho » Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:59 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:54 pm
Especially with the Wood to Spurs rumours circulating now Kane has been ruled out
Comedy gold... :lol:

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Re: ARTICLE: Barnes and JBG ruled out for Chelsea

Post by tiger76 » Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:08 pm

Barnes has been carrying this problem for a while,and it's clearly impacted on his performances,so why on earth wasn't he rested over the holiday period,other teams rotated their squads when possible,now he'll potentially miss the run in,JBG returns for 2 minutes and is injured again,we need to get rid of several wagestealers in this squad regardless of whether we survive or not,JBG and Robbie Brady along with Danny Drinkwater,Aaron Lennon and Steven Defour have contributed little for their large salaries.

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Re: ARTICLE: Barnes and JBG ruled out for Chelsea

Post by houseboy » Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:18 pm

Local cricketer wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 5:38 pm
Come on now you know you are not allowed to say anything critical when Leisure Is about
Ha ha yeah. :lol:

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Re: ARTICLE: Barnes and JBG ruled out for Chelsea

Post by houseboy » Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:21 pm

Leisure wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 7:46 pm
Where did I say that! It was you who stated that most of them got dropped. Which is not true. If it is please tell us how many of our regular 1st team got dropped?
Look up the word hyperbole. And where were Tarks and Mee? On a camping holiday. You know he didn’t take it seriously. Go on, admit it. :lol:

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Re: ARTICLE: Barnes and JBG ruled out for Chelsea

Post by houseboy » Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:27 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 5:12 pm
Well, there's this guy called Matej, and he's..
It’s no good mate, no-one is listening. We have a talented striker and a bit of an injury problem up front and no one is saying he should start. They are probably thinking that if Dyche won’t use he must be rubbish. What does this guy have to do?

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Re: ARTICLE: Barnes and JBG ruled out for Chelsea

Post by BOYSIE31 » Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:33 pm

TVC15 wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 7:08 pm
How about in the full games against Barnsley or Cardiff or West Ham ?
And I said he’s not had much of a chance - but I’m guessing there’s a reason for that - probably a similar reason to the other 2 clubs he was at in the premier league
Agree so why the hell did we sign him ?????

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Re: ARTICLE: Barnes and JBG ruled out for Chelsea

Post by BOYSIE31 » Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:35 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:08 pm
Barnes has been carrying this problem for a while,and it's clearly impacted on his performances,so why on earth wasn't he rested over the holiday period,other teams rotated their squads when possible,now he'll potentially miss the run in,JBG returns for 2 minutes and is injured again,we need to get rid of several wagestealers in this squad regardless of whether we survive or not,JBG and Robbie Brady along with Danny Drinkwater,Aaron Lennon and Steven Defour have contributed little for their large salaries.
Agree but dyche is king remember

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Re: ARTICLE: Barnes and JBG ruled out for Chelsea

Post by Giftonsnoidea » Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:39 pm

Has JBG been watching a documentary on Darren Anderson this past year , three months out one game then injured again, what a crock

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Re: ARTICLE: Barnes and JBG ruled out for Chelsea

Post by TVC15 » Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:57 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:33 pm
Agree so why the hell did we sign him ?????
Presumably because Dyche thought he was good enough to play a much bigger part for us than he has and that he could also develop him.
Clearly he was mistaken but it makes no sense at all to think he paid £10m for Vydra with no intention or desire to play him.

As I have said before - and it’s happening on this thread again posters like you who are so negative always come out with the same old crap that some posters think Dyche is beyond criticism and never made any mistakes - when I don’t know one fan or person on this board who thinks that or has ever posted this.

The difference is and always has been that the majority of fans (thank goodness) have perspective and appreciate that Dyche has got a lot lot more right than he has wrong.
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Re: ARTICLE: Barnes and JBG ruled out for Chelsea

Post by Leisure » Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:57 pm

houseboy wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:21 pm
Look up the word hyperbole. And where were Tarks and Mee? On a camping holiday. You know he didn’t take it seriously. Go on, admit it. :lol:
Hyperbole = exaggeration ie not true. Tarks was on the bench. Mee was having a holiday. It's called squad rotation. Ever heard of it? Get over it. We drew the 3 strongest teams possible and beat 2 of them. Seems like he took it seriously to me. But obviously you know differently.

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Re: ARTICLE: Barnes and JBG ruled out for Chelsea

Post by Local cricketer » Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:02 pm

Leisure wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 7:49 pm
Fans can be as critical as they want just as long as they don't make things up to try to make a point. Common then, tell me just how many of our 1st team were dropped? Houseboy stated that most of them were.

Well against olympiakos however you spell it in the first leg our 2 centre halfs was long and Gibson. Jon Walters started in Turkey! Do I need to carry on?

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Re: BARNES-HOW LONG OUT

Post by Marney&Mee » Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:06 pm

How Long Out. Is he still in the S Korean national team?

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Re: BARNES-HOW LONG OUT

Post by Pimlico_Claret » Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:08 pm

If Barnes is out we can always ... wait for it.... GET LONG IN

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Re: ARTICLE: Barnes and JBG ruled out for Chelsea

Post by Leisure » Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:13 pm

Local cricketer wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:02 pm
Well against olympiakos however you spell it in the first leg our 2 centre halfs was long and Gibson. Jon Walters started in Turkey! Do I need to carry on?
So not most of the 1st team regulars missing after all! ;)
But please carry on if you want to name all the others who were missing!

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Re: ARTICLE: Barnes and JBG ruled out for Chelsea

Post by tiger76 » Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:15 pm

TVC15 wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:57 pm
Presumably because Dyche thought he was good enough to play a much bigger part for us than he has and that he could also develop him.
Clearly he was mistaken but it makes no sense at all to think he paid £10m for Vydra with no intention or desire to play him.

As I have said before - and it’s happening on this thread again posters like you who are so negative always come out with the same old crap that some posters think Dyche is beyond criticism and never made any mistakes - when I don’t know one fan or person on this board who thinks that or has ever posted this.

The difference is and always has been that the majority of fans (thank goodness) have perspective and appreciate that Dyche has got a lot lot more right than he has wrong.
Like all managers Dyche has his positives and negatives,over the piece he's got more positives than negatives,but the worry is the negatives could prove costly unless they can be corrected,i'd certainly give Sean a chance to rebuild even if we go down this season,he's earned the right to that given how much he's contributed over his 7 year stint,but he's not without fault with some of his transfer dealings.

That said the constant criticism is becoming grating,and it's always the usual suspects,valid points are all well and good,but some posters just want to bash the club at every turn,which is bizarre when we're having our most successful spell since the 1970's.

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Re: ARTICLE: Barnes and JBG ruled out for Chelsea

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:18 pm

Hart
Gibson Tarks Mee
Lennon Westwood Cork McNeil Brady
Vydra Pope

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Re: BARNES-HOW LONG OUT

Post by Heathclaret » Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:19 am

Jay Rodriguez’s opportunity to shine. Perhaps in a couple of months Barnes will have to earn his place back. Let’s hope so.

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Re: BARNES-HOW LONG OUT

Post by The Enclosure » Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:31 am

Jay has been ill this week and has not trained., he could be a doubt for Saturday as well.
Looks like it could well be Woody and Vydra up front if Dyche goes 442.

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Re: BARNES-HOW LONG OUT

Post by AlargeClaret » Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:49 am

Burnley1989 wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:54 pm
Especially with the Wood to Spurs rumours circulating now Kane has been ruled out
:lol: :lol: :lol:
I genuinely laughed out loud then !

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Re: BARNES-HOW LONG OUT

Post by fatboy47 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:57 am

when is Nakhi due back?

could be our marquee arrival in Jan?...banging them in for fun down in Shepherds Bush.
They love him down there.

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Re: BARNES-HOW LONG OUT

Post by Hopey1786 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:02 am

Our til april

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Re: BARNES-HOW LONG OUT

Post by MACCA » Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:09 am

We might see a bit more of that guy who must have scored 20 last season.
Least then people can actually see if he has the quality to contribute at this level

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Re: BARNES-HOW LONG OUT

Post by jrgbfc » Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:20 am

Completely baffling decision by Dyche to keep picking him and probably aggravating the injury. If he was playing really well you could have seen a bit of logic to it, but he's been awful last few games.

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Re: ARTICLE: Barnes and JBG ruled out for Chelsea

Post by houseboy » Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:30 am

Leisure wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:57 pm
Hyperbole = exaggeration ie not true. Tarks was on the bench. Mee was having a holiday. It's called squad rotation. Ever heard of it? Get over it. We drew the 3 strongest teams possible and beat 2 of them. Seems like he took it seriously to me. But obviously you know differently.
Mee was having a holiday??? The season had started why was he on holiday? And why was Tarks on the bench? Squad rotation? Weird how old Dychey boy only rotates on cup matches.

Come on man, stop fooling yourself, all the world and his wife knows Dyche doesn't take cups seriously (apart from maybe you).

Dyche is a great manager for us but stop apologising for his terrible lack of interest in cups games.

Oh and I see you looked up hyperbole. You are right it is exaggeration...for effect. Not considered to be lying generally speaking. Good effort though.

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Re: BARNES-HOW LONG OUT

Post by Goobs » Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:52 am

I can see it now. Barnes out for the season. A combination of Wood and Jay Rod keep us in touch then on the final day of the season we go into injury time needing a goal to survive and as time ticks away Vydra comes on for a last minute cameo to try and save the day.

The ball falls to him a yard out after a scramble in the area and he blasts it in to the stand, we get relegated and he is never seen at the club again :(

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Re: BARNES-HOW LONG OUT

Post by Andreshotboots » Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:53 am

jrgbfc wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:20 am
Completely baffling decision by Dyche to keep picking him and probably aggravating the injury. If he was playing really well you could have seen a bit of logic to it, but he's been awful last few games.
Especially with this run of fixtures we have now. Highly unlikely we are going to pick much up from these next few games. Surely he should have had the surgery before Christmas, and now been in recovery ready to come bouncing back with our run in, where lets face it we are going to need to win quite a lot of games, but they are much more winnable than the next batch of fixtures.

I'm no medical expert, but it was so obvious to see Ash has been a shadow of himself over the last 10 games and he's offered nothing. Crazy to keep playing him with J Rod sat on the bench. The only thing I can possibly think to explain this is Dyche is trying to send some sort of message to the Board...

Save your breath Sean!!!

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Re: ARTICLE: Barnes and JBG ruled out for Chelsea

Post by Leisure » Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:54 am

houseboy wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:30 am
Mee was having a holiday??? The season had started why was he on holiday? And why was Tarks on the bench? Squad rotation? Weird how old Dychey boy only rotates on cup matches.

Come on man, stop fooling yourself, all the world and his wife knows Dyche doesn't take cups seriously (apart from maybe you).

Dyche is a great manager for us but stop apologising for his terrible lack of interest in cups games.

Oh and I see you looked up hyperbole. You are right it is exaggeration...for effect. Not considered to be lying generally speaking. Good effort though.
Mee was on holiday was a joke, I've no idea where he was! Injured maybe? Surely you're not advocating that he rotates the squad in league matches? So just because he doesn't play his 1st team in all Cup games that means that he doesn't take them seriously. What about the 2 Europa ties that we won and Peterborough, he picked a squad team which he considered was strong enough to win and sometimes that works and other times it doesn't. That's life. Can you please point out where I have apologised for him? Didn't need to look up hyperbole, I'm secondary modern educated! :D
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Re: ARTICLE: Barnes and JBG ruled out for Chelsea

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:55 am

Leisure wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:54 am
Mee was on holiday was a joke, I've no idea where he was! Injured maybe? Surely you're not o advocating that he rotates the squad in league matches? So just because he doesn't play his 1st team in all Cup games that means that he doesn't take them seriously. What about the 2 Europa ties that we won and Peterborough, he picked a squad team which he considered was strong enough to win and sometimes that works and other times it doesn't. That's life. Can you please point out where I have apologised for him? Didn't need to look up hyperbole, I'm secondary modern educated! :D
Strange seeing people complain about Gibson playing in Europe and not Mee, yet people complaining about Mee playing in the Prem and not Gibson
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Re: ARTICLE: Barnes and JBG ruled out for Chelsea

Post by Reckoner » Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:00 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:55 am
Strange seeing people complain about Gibson playing in Europe and not Mee, yet people complaining about Mee playing in the Prem and not Gibson
The same people also complain that we didn't send Drinkwater back, and also that we didn't give him a chance to play. Or that we have wasted money signing players, or we haven't signed players. I don't know why I look at this messageboard anymore its just full of people looking for ways to complain and managing to spend a huge part of their lives spreading misery. Weird.
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Re: ARTICLE: Barnes and JBG ruled out for Chelsea

Post by houseboy » Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:01 am

Leisure wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:54 am
Mee was on holiday was a joke, I've no idea where he was! Injured maybe? Surely you're not o advocating that he rotates the squad in league matches? So just because he doesn't play his 1st team in all Cup games that means that he doesn't take them seriously. What about the 2 Europa ties that we won and Peterborough, he picked a squad team which he considered was strong enough to win and sometimes that works and other times it doesn't. That's life. Can you please point out where I have apologised for him? Didn't need to look up hyperbole, I'm secondary modern educated! :D
No matter mate. And you didn't 'apologise' for him you are an apologist - meaning you defend him on every level even when he is wrong - and he does get things wrong occasionally because he is human. But I still can't believe you think he takes cups seriously. ;)

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Re: ARTICLE: Barnes and JBG ruled out for Chelsea

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:03 am

Reckoner wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:00 am
The same people also complain that we didn't send Drinkwater back, and also that we didn't give him a chance to play. Or that we have wasted money signing players, or we haven't signed players. I don't know why I look at this messageboard anymore its just full of people looking for ways to complain and managing to spend a huge part of their lives spreading misery. Weird.
:D :D that is part of why I read it, they tend to forget their log in details when we win, but find it by 5pm when we lose. Weird little group
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Re: ARTICLE: Barnes and JBG ruled out for Chelsea

Post by houseboy » Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:07 am

Reckoner wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:00 am
The same people also complain that we didn't send Drinkwater back, and also that we didn't give him a chance to play. Or that we have wasted money signing players, or we haven't signed players. I don't know why I look at this messageboard anymore its just full of people looking for ways to complain and managing to spend a huge part of their lives spreading misery. Weird.
I'ts just a place to put forward opinions or vent spleen or just get plain angry. In some cases it's people winding others up. Don't take it too seriously bud, I bet if you had a poll on here you would find very few who would want to see the back of Dyche, I certainly don't. Yes I have my criticisms of him with regard to his rigidity and hatred of cups but I wouldn't want anyone else in charge, but I do reserve the right to criticise him occasionally (and that seems to upset some people on here).

Take it all for what it is mate...a laugh and an entertainment...nothing more.

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Re: ARTICLE: Barnes and JBG ruled out for Chelsea

Post by Leisure » Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:34 am

houseboy wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:01 am
No matter mate. And you didn't 'apologise' for him you are an apologist - meaning you defend him on every level even when he is wrong - and he does get things wrong occasionally because he is human. But I still can't believe you think he takes cups seriously. ;)
League 1st, cups 2nd. Nowt wrong with that. In Dyche We Trust. UTC

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Re: ARTICLE: Barnes and JBG ruled out for Chelsea

Post by kentonclaret » Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:47 am

Perhaps some are trying to make the point that we didn't send Drinkwater straight back but, having held on to him, then still didn't play him.

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Re: BARNES-HOW LONG OUT

Post by IanMcL » Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:23 am

Barnes will eat his own groin and be back on the grass in a week!

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Re: BARNES-HOW LONG OUT

Post by FactualFrank » Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:29 am

It's a shame we're playing Chelsea as a team lower down the table would have been a perfect chance to start Vydra & Jay, and keep the ball on the ground.

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Re: ARTICLE: Barnes and JBG ruled out for Chelsea

Post by Andreshotboots » Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:38 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:18 pm
Hart
Gibson Tarks Mee
Lennon Westwood Cork McNeil Brady
Vydra Pope

Pope needs dropping back to keeper. He was shite when he came up front against Villa :D
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Re: ARTICLE: Barnes and JBG ruled out for Chelsea

Post by dougcollins » Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:03 pm

Its not hard to understand about Drinkwater. You either send him back or play him.

Doing neither was not an option.

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Re: ARTICLE: Barnes and JBG ruled out for Chelsea

Post by houseboy » Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:42 pm

Leisure wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:34 am
League 1st, cups 2nd. Nowt wrong with that. In Dyche We Trust. UTC
We differ on that bud. I'd take winning the FA Cup with relegation anyday. Throwing away cup games in order to continue the endless slog of 'survival' in the PL is not my idea of fun. If the PL were a more even playing field I'd pretty much agree with you but we are in the PL to make up the numbers and it is bloody hard work doing so. I like being in the top division of course from the pride point of view but it is often dreadful to watch. It's not anybodys fault really that's just the way of things. But I'm old fashioned I suppose in that I'd sooner try to actually win things than just toddle along watching the club get richer, because that is not what football is about (or maybe it is these days, I don't know).

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