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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by Bosscat » Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:13 pm

DCWat wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:22 pm
Pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, cross, goal.

It’s doable and it’s nice to see.
Anti Football lalala la la
Anti Football lalala la la
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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:20 pm

Spare a thought for the bellends who have to wait for a defeat.

Some tears tonight and we all know who they are
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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by Kitch1966 » Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:24 pm

Gutsy performance today and more like the Burnley we have been used to in recent times. We kept going against a very good Leicester side and that victory should install a bit of confidence into the whole squad. It should give us the momentum going forward and drive us towards a strong finish hopefully.
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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by mdd2 » Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:52 pm

Pope's penalty save may well be a season defining moment let alone the game defining moment, where the crowd and team went up a gear after it
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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by timshorts » Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:59 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:13 pm
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We weren't even the best Premier league winners playing anti-foorball this weekend? Newcastle had one shot on target and 34% possession.
Anti football 3 (v top 4 sides)(6 points) Poncey-divey-overpaid-tippy-tappy-media-luvvies 1 (0 points).
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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by Stayingup » Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:02 pm

What goes round comes round. We were robbed of a point at Leicester and this nakes up for it. Well done team and manager.
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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by Blackrod » Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:04 pm

A great result but we need to build on it and for it not to be a flash in the pan. Some are getting ahead of themselves. Very good that we managed to come back from going a goal down. Also another poster mentioned one of the great points about today which was the other teams at the bottom would have expected us to lose today and it’s a big blow for them.

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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by mdd2 » Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:05 pm

More than makes up for it, better lose there and win here rather draw there and here or even draw and lose here

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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by mdd2 » Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:05 pm

More than makes up for it, better lose there and win here rather draw there and here or even draw and lose here

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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by Hibsclaret » Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:10 pm

Stayingup wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:02 pm
What goes round comes round. We were robbed of a point at Leicester and this nakes up for it. Well done team and manager.
Hardly, we’ve still lost a point.....

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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:10 pm

It was a massive result. We were looking like sliding into the bottom 3 and it was hard to see where the next point came from.

But equally as important for me today was our intent to keep the ball down more and pass into feet, against a dynamic Leicester side. I'll be more than happy if were show the same intent for the rest of the season.
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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:16 pm

Superb all 11 were brilliant with no passengers
Dwight back covering and attacking when possible was great to see

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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by Murger » Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:17 pm

The 2nd half was great. It makes you wonder why we can't play like that all the time instead of the constant hoofball. More performances like we got after half-time and I'll be happy.

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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by Greeny » Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:17 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:11 pm
One trick pony, that Dyche bloke. Get him out. He's tired, looking for excuses - and all the rest of the **** some of our so-called "fans" have spouted over the last couple of weeks.
Absolute wankers, the lot of 'em.
Delighted we turned up at last in the 2nd half today. Got in their faces unlike recent games where we just stood off + let them pass around us.

The Turf Moor roar came back at long last after Pope weaved his magic.

However Sean is definitely a one trick pony. Nothing was different in his set up today + most of us were thinking at half time, “here we go yet again”. Credit to the guys they stepped up after half time + the closing down + drive was evident. Even Stevie Wonder can see the long standing deficiencies are still there and we need beefing up in midfield as a minimum.

The commitment + drive missing for weeks returned. Brilliant. Long may it continue. We need it badly.

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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by BOYSIE31 » Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:33 pm

Best we have played for months and also a good game to watch for the neutral for a change - still work to be done though

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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by warksclaret » Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:41 pm

Just got back and so pleased I went

A totally gutsy performance epitomised by the way Bardsley played. Wish we had got him a few years ago. Thought Hendrick did really well too, for someone who takes a lot of criicism. At one point thought we had gone but there was some comfort there in the way we had played. Pleased for Jack Cork who got dispossessed for their goal-having won, it takes the focus away

One thing we do well is play Vardy well-he rarely runs riot with us and he is having a great season. Great team performance
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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by Amex » Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:46 pm

[img
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][/img] had the honour of sponsoring the match ball today what a match, a claret for nearly 50 years, today was what we are all about!
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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by jrgbfc » Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:48 pm

Shows that we are capable of causing teams problems when we have a go. Apart from Liverpool and City theres no one to really fear in this league. At times I think we show the opposition too much respect, like at Everton on Boxing Day.
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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by Murger » Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:49 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:20 pm
Spare a thought for the bellends who have to wait for a defeat.

Some tears tonight and we all know who they are
A bit of a dick aren't ya lad? People were rightly calling out the **** results and performances.

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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by Murger » Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:50 pm

Amex wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:46 pm
[img3AFF5BE5-75A7-4674-8D0F-1E12148B5237.jpeg][/img] had the honour of sponsoring the match ball today what a match, a claret for nearly 50 years, today was what we are all about!
That'll be Garlick celebrating another transfer window with no money parted.

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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by Amex » Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:52 pm

Murger wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:50 pm
That'll be Garlick celebrating another transfer window with no money parted.
Maybe but let’s enjoy the moment, better than Barnet away.

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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:46 pm

Murger wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:49 pm
A bit of a dick aren't ya lad? People were rightly calling out the **** results and performances.
Not half as much as spineless goons like you

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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:02 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:46 pm
Not half as much as spineless goons like you
Fair play to you mate, I don't know where you find the energy to be so angry all the time. I'd be exhausted. We won, allow yourself a smile. You only get one life, don't waste it with hate.

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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by ewanrob » Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:06 pm

dandeclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 6:41 pm
Aye, sitting in 14th, closer points wise to the top 10 than the bottom 3, having just beaten the team sitting 3rd in the league.

ALL THOSE INADEQUACIES ARE CLEAR TO SEE.
So you think everything is absolutely perfect, given what had gone before.

Just watch again our captain for their goal, we have to evolve if we are to stay in this league....that was shocking defending and it's happening to many times. We are being found out now, with the pace in this league...that sir is an inadequacy.

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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by ewanrob » Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:15 pm

RalphCoatesComb wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:16 pm
Today we came back from 1-0 down (and a dubious start to the move that led to their goal) against a team currently third in the best league in the World. It wasn't Hartlepool or Torquay that we were playing.

It was a HUGE result, and well deserved. Long may it keep the Ne'er-do-wells away!
Again I say, we are being done for pace....that's an inadequacy. It was indeed well deserved, but there are issues still there. Just listen back to the Sky commentary, back line constantly ball watching then dont have the pace to react.

So I bring up a very real issue, but must keep away cause it's something you mustn't bring up... aye right !

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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by Nonayforever » Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:22 pm

I love Ash Barnes, and in all honesty I would have picked him if fit, however I do think that having Jay Rod in the team results in better football.
Tarks got a blasting from Dyche for launching long balls up to Jay after about 10 mins play, thereafter we played mostly decent stuff exemplified by Bardsley's grit and determination which, with the help of Pope's penalty save gave us an extra gear.

That result will certainly lift the recent doom and gloom.
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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by Murger » Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:22 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:46 pm
Not half as much as spineless goons like you
Hahahahaha.

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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by Tall Paul » Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:32 pm

I don't think there was really a vast difference in performance between today and the Villa game. In fact we created more and better chances in the second half against Villa than we did today.

It's those fine margins again.

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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:49 pm

Nonayforever wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:22 pm
I love Ash Barnes, and in all honesty I would have picked him if fit, however I do think that having Jay Rod in the team results in better football.
Tarks got a blasting from Dyche for launching long balls up to Jay after about 10 mins play, thereafter we played mostly decent stuff exemplified by Bardsley's grit and determination which, with the help of Pope's penalty save gave us an extra gear.

That result will certainly lift the recent doom and gloom.
Absolutely.

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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by ElectroClaret » Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:56 pm

Nonayforever wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:22 pm

That result will certainly lift the recent doom and gloom.
And increase it at Bournemouth, Norwich, etc. :)

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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by Cajun » Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:17 am

Ah, I knew that strong jaw was still around here somewhere! That will hopefully restore some self belief around the place again.

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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by rob63 » Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:33 am

boyyanno wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:24 pm
Wood did not score a header and O'Neil was anonymous because he's in Australia.
& Stirling is in Scotland, not a reliable currency/level of effort!

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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by RammyClaret61 » Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:17 am

FCBurnley wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:18 pm
we WON and that’s all that matters
Really? Have you never read this messageboard? ;)

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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by Right_winger » Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:50 am

I think people are going overboard with the performance. It was one of the better ones this season but that’s not exactly
Saying much. We looked toothless first half and had moments in the second. Leicester were in the main contained well, but let’s not kid ourselves that we outplayed them and had a go because we didn’t.

The penalty save was the catalyst and hopedully
It’s the moment we turn this season around and manage to keep clear of the trap door.

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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by Grimsdale » Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:35 am

Come on, we've just beaten Leicester. You know, that team who are third in the Premier League? Scored 9 away at Southampton?

Nobody was expecting us to outplay them, just looking at the two squads you could argue we shouldn't even be on the same pitch as them, but this was the kind of performance that has been keeping us in the top flight for the past four seasons, showing a lot more desire and commitment than we've seen in recent weeks.

Keep this up and we'll be here for another season, no problem.

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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:12 am

Right_winger wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:50 am
I think people are going overboard with the performance. It was one of the better ones this season but that’s not exactly
Saying much. We looked toothless first half and had moments in the second. Leicester were in the main contained well, but let’s not kid ourselves that we outplayed them and had a go because we didn’t.

The penalty save was the catalyst and hopedully
It’s the moment we turn this season around and manage to keep clear of the trap door.
we beat the 3rd placed team in one of the best leagues in the world - just let that sink in.........................


On the assumption that has sunk in, take a look at our winning goal, Ndidi to Maddison to Barnes to Vardy and it's a brilliant goal............has that sunk in ?

We were superb in the second half today, battled like ****, passed it about, defended like demons and scored a superb winner. It wasn't the performance but the attitude today, one of our best days in the Premier League for me - that 45 mins gave me everything I want to see from our team.

The crowd response should tell the manager, the team and the board that regardless of anything, if they battle to their maximum then we will back them 100%

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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by houseboy » Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:24 am

FactualFrank wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:59 pm
As the context of 'best' here is strongest - what country's top division would you go with?
I'm not sure there is a 'best' to be honest because all have their good and bad points, it's just this idea that it is English so therefore has to be the best that gets me. I watched two Spanish games last night on the La Liga channel and BOTH were far superior to our game (okay one was Barcelona) but the other was Athletico Bilbao v Celta Vigo, two clubs in similar relative positions to us and Leicester and it was a stunning and far superior game to ours. I watch a lot of foreign foorball and I can't just get with this 'best league in the world' nonsense. German football is just as good (and better in some ways because the crowds are better), Italian football is good and Argentinian and Brazilian league football can be amazing. It's the over-hype and ethnocentricism that surrounds the PL that is annoying. It's a good league yes, and better than many (the French and Dutch leagues are poor) but it gets put into perspective a bit when you watch the La Liga channel which advertises it as 'the best league in the world'. You pays your money mate as they say.

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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by houseboy » Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:32 am

RalphCoatesComb wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 6:40 pm
Not any more but I am very funny.

Name a better League HB
See my reply to Factual Frank mate. 'Best' in football is subjective like anything else and as someone who watches a good deal of foreign football I can say that the German, Italian, Spanish, Brazilian and Argentinian leagues are just as good. Germany can be better because the crowds are something else. La Liga advertises itself as 'the best league in the world'.
Money doesn't make 'best' and that is what people seem to judge it by. The PL is over-hyped, over financed and over promoted. It's a very good league, one of the best, but as for THE best, it depends on what you want from football.

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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by Lord Beamish » Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:36 am

I didnt watch the game live, but watched the extended highlights later, on ClaretsPlayer. That second half performance was more like the Real Sean Dyche’s Burnley than what we’ve seen in a while, and that was pleasing to see.The build up to the winner was an example of the close control, one-touch football that we are capable of playing; with some real desire to get there and score from Westwood. His technique in striking the ball just on the half-volley was sublime; it went in like a dart.
More of this from the Lads, please.

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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by dandeclaret » Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:08 am

ewanrob wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:06 pm
So you think everything is absolutely perfect, given what had gone before.

Just watch again our captain for their goal, we have to evolve if we are to stay in this league....that was shocking defending and it's happening to many times. We are being found out now, with the pace in this league...that sir is an inadequacy.
I've used this quote regularly. All clubs make mistakes, but Burnley as a football club make fewer than almost every other professional club in the country, hence being way above where their natural position should be.

The team continues to perform towards the top of it's ability, as demonstrated by the league position. We may be being found out regularly, but there's currently 6 teams being found out more often. Where do you expect Burnley to finish in the league? Personally, I expect them to be bottom 6. This may be why we have different views on what is adequate, and what is, table wise, a good performance.

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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by Spijed » Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:32 am

houseboy wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:32 am
See my reply to Factual Frank mate. 'Best' in football is subjective like anything else and as someone who watches a good deal of foreign football I can say that the German, Italian, Spanish, Brazilian and Argentinian leagues are just as good. Germany can be better because the crowds are something else. La Liga advertises itself as 'the best league in the world'.
Money doesn't make 'best' and that is what people seem to judge it by. The PL is over-hyped, over financed and over promoted. It's a very good league, one of the best, but as for THE best, it depends on what you want from football.
Take out the top clubs and I suspect the Prem has better quality In the rest of the league. I'd be surprised if the teams in 14th spot in Germany, France, Italy or Spain are as good as we are.

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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by NewClaret » Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:55 am

Murger wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:50 pm
That'll be Garlick celebrating another transfer window with no money parted.
Genuinely think yesterday may change the transfer plans. Less urgency with 27pts mid-Jan to rush signings or overpay if we’re being held to ransom.

Assuming we all agree that buying from the Championship is our most realistic market, no top club fighting to go up will sell us their best players in Jan, whatever premium we pay. In Summer we’ll have 3 teams down (hopefully not us) we can pick up from, plus we’ll get a free-er run at the players from teams that missed promotion. Also heard a few Championship teams are in hot water with FFP so might be some fire sales.

I think that we should be looking to trim the squad a bit, use the wages to buy in real quality - with a good back up in defense, midfield & attack, but not necessarily specialist cover for every position - and rely more on the youth team to cover any injury crisis. A bit higher risk but probably what we need to “push on”.

All this is assuming any cash from last summer rolls over and we get a bigger pot next summer. A couple of £20m players coming in to an established team could really push us on (vs “squandering” on cheaper players with potential).

That said, with safety not too far out of reach, an opportunity to introduce those players to the team with safety secured would be quite good too.

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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by ClaretEngineer » Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:57 am

An absolutely massive result for us. That was the Burnley we know and love, getting at teams and letting them know they’ve been in a game.

I’m always pessimistic about playing Leicester because of their pace and speed at which they move the ball.

This showed yesterday at the way in which H. Barnes twice had the beating of Ben Mee. Maybe he was targeted because he is not the fastest? Still a solid and dependable defender despite this.

Let’s hope we carry this on to Manchester on Wednesday. There wasn’t much in it in the reverse fixture.

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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by NewClaret » Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:58 am

Spijed wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:32 am
Take out the top clubs and I suspect the Prem has better quality In the rest of the league. I'd be surprised if the teams in 14th spot in Germany, France, Italy or Spain are as good as we are.
This.

Technical quality of some leagues is better than the premier but our league is the most competitive, with a much tighter range of quality.

Championship is better than the lower half of Italy, Germany and arguably Spain.

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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by Hibsclaret » Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:04 am

Are we as good as Alaves, Udinese, Hertha Berlin or Brest?

I would say we would most likely beat all of those teams tbh. It’s quite interesting how the league is always classed as poor quality when we beat one of the better teams. Maybe, just maybe our team is better than most of us give it credit for...

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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by ewanrob » Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:36 am

dandeclaret wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:08 am
I've used this quote regularly. All clubs make mistakes, but Burnley as a football club make fewer than almost every other professional club in the country, hence being way above where their natural position should be.

The team continues to perform towards the top of it's ability, as demonstrated by the league position. We may be being found out regularly, but there's currently 6 teams being found out more often. Where do you expect Burnley to finish in the league? Personally, I expect them to be bottom 6. This may be why we have different views on what is adequate, and what is, table wise, a good performance.
Don't disagree with your expectation on where we may finish, again my only concern is that most teams are far quicker than us in their build up play and on one on ones and they find unbelievable pockets of space. Yes Ben Mee is an absolute warrior, but is that enough at this level...I don't think it is, but again that's just my opinion. And that's what its all about.

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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by houseboy » Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:39 am

Spijed wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:32 am
Take out the top clubs and I suspect the Prem has better quality In the rest of the league. I'd be surprised if the teams in 14th spot in Germany, France, Italy or Spain are as good as we are.
I would disagree. Celta Vigo are currently third bottom in La Liga and they were fantastic yesterday against Bilbao. It was a great game. 1-1 in the end but skill, speed and entertainment were there in abundance, much better than our game earlier in fact (and that is not to criticise our game). I've heard this argument before about the lower teams in other leagues and I just don't understand it. How do people know if they don't watch it regularly? There are very poor leagues (France and Holland to name two that SHOULD be better than they are) but the main leagues are just as good as ours, just not as hyped and overblown.
As for comparing the lower teams to us that is difficult to assess. We have been pretty damned awful of late (yesterday excepted) and Celta Vigo yesterday were probably better than I have seen us play all season, in any game. Why would it surprise you they were as good as us? I'm not saying the PL isn't a great league, it is one of the best, but we need to get away from this belief that it is better than other leagues of similar status. ,

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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by dandeclaret » Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:35 pm

ewanrob wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:36 am
Don't disagree with your expectation on where we may finish, again my only concern is that most teams are far quicker than us in their build up play and on one on ones and they find unbelievable pockets of space. Yes Ben Mee is an absolute warrior, but is that enough at this level... don't think it is, but again that's just my opinion. And what its all about.


It’s good enough to have the team as close to Europe as it is to relegation.

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Re: MASSIVE Result

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:33 am

ksrclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:02 pm
Fair play to you mate, I don't know where you find the energy to be so angry all the time. I'd be exhausted. We won, allow yourself a smile. You only get one life, don't waste it with hate.
Doesn't take much energy to laugh at people who deserve it, cheers for the advice though

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