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The unsung hero

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:46 am

Chris Wood. Another vital goal yesterday. On 9 for the season again already.

29 goals in 83 games for Burnley at this level. That is some record for a striker who plays in a team the way we do.

Often looks like he needs a confidence boost. But have we had a striker as clinical at this level? Especially in the air.

He has scored more goals from open play in the last 12 months than Ronaldo apparently.
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Re: The unsung hero

Post by Targetman » Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:50 am

Sam Vokes??

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Re: The unsung hero

Post by Goodclaret » Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:51 am

Totally agree.

It's not just his goal scoring for me. It's the way he affects our play, gives us an outlet in the channels which takes pressure off us when we need. The games he doesn't play highlights the way we try and play differently as a team and it isn't as effective.

Brilliant player for us.

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Re: The unsung hero

Post by Hibsclaret » Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:17 am

Not unsung from anyone with a decent pair of eyes tbh
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Re: The unsung hero

Post by arise_sir_charge » Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:40 am

Targetman wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:50 am
Sam Vokes??
Wood is a different level to Vokes.

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Re: The unsung hero

Post by bobinho » Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:42 am

We are better when Wood plays. No question. Let’s also hope that a run of games will have Jay become more effective.

Wood is very very effective. Like him.

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Re: The unsung hero

Post by mdd2 » Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:06 am

I thought Jay had one of his better games yesterday because we played more to feet than we have done for some time IMO
But totally agree about Wood-if he had the speed of Andre Gray he would be in a top six side
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Re: The unsung hero

Post by summitclaret » Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:28 am

and he is not getting offside much these days.
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Re: The unsung hero

Post by Hopey1786 » Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:30 am

We should never have paid that for jay hes out of his depth

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Re: The unsung hero

Post by Hipper » Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:31 am

Not trying to belittle the impact of Wood on our achievements this season but we are probably only better when he plays because of our style of play. If we were able to adapt or be more flexible we could just as well play better without him.

As for Jay's contribution, in one of ClaretSpice's treatise he points out the way Rodriguez makes us a play more on the ground then Barnes. That is one of the exciting outcomes of yesterday's game. It means we have a different way to attack. Let's hope that the next few games sees this possibility developed.

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Re: The unsung hero

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:49 am

Hibsclaret wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:17 am
Not unsung from anyone with a decent pair of eyes tbh
Absolutely. Problem is for the three years he has been here we seem to have plenty of fans without eyes :lol:
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Re: The unsung hero

Post by Claretmatt4 » Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:51 am

Thought Wood and Jay both did well yesterday and complemented each other. Helped us mix it up more than we have done in recent weeks!

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Re: The unsung hero

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:22 am

Does it again.

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Re: The unsung hero

Post by jdrobbo » Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:27 am

Chris Wood is everything to this side. He’s magnificent. People have doubted him. His goals are impressive but his wider play is paramount to how we get around the park.
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Re: The unsung hero

Post by Archer » Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:47 am

Hopey1786 wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:30 am
We should never have paid that for jay hes out of his depth
Sure
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Re: The unsung hero

Post by Sproggy » Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:08 am

Think he was struggling with his nose again too. Did he take another bang on it during the game? It looks sore.

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Re: The unsung hero

Post by Longsider » Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:22 am

Billy Hamiltonish ?

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Re: The unsung hero

Post by Fretters » Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:37 am

Sproggy wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:08 am
Think he was struggling with his nose again too. Did he take another bang on it during the game? It looks sore.
As soon as the game finished, he looked in agony with it.

Warrior.

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Re: The unsung hero

Post by Jakubs Tash » Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:41 am

jdrobbo wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:27 am
Chris Wood is everything to this side. He’s magnificent. People have doubted him. His goals are impressive but his wider play is paramount to how we get around the park.
Superb win and he took his goal unbelievably well but (and I hate to say this after such a wonderful win) Wood still really frustrates me with the rest of his general game. Using last night as an example, he often gave the ball away with poor control or a poor pass/lay off. We should have had the ball and instead Man Utd had it back and were once again applying pressure. These were simple things that Wood should really be better at too.

He puts bags of effort and has so much desire - I am not doubting that for one minute. But, like I said, I hate to say it after such a great win, let's not get carried away.....his overall game could be so much better. If Wood can improve these small details in his game he improves the team significantly.

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Re: The unsung hero

Post by Colburn_Claret » Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:57 am

Chris had many doubters in his first season, as does nearly every player we get, the one thing he's always had is an eye for goal.
I think his general play has come on leaps and bounds this season. He holds the ball up miles better than he used to, and his link up game the same. He's even managed to stay onside more often.
My big bug bear for the last month or so, was our negativity. it's all well and good defending the way we do, but when you get the ball you have to use it. Last night, and Sunday we got bodies in the box when we won the ball, and started putting the ball in there instead of passing it backwards. When we do that we are simply a different beast, and players like Chris and Jay can only benefit.

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Re: The unsung hero

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:16 am

Vardy, Aguero, Rashford, Ings, Aubameyang, Abraham, Mane, Salah, Pukki, Kane & Sterling

Those are the only players to have scored more Prem goals this season so far, he is doing just fine.

If you ignore his goals and work rate you could moan he is offside sometimes :D
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Re: The unsung hero

Post by ClaretLoup » Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:36 am

It's a disgrace that after 30 EPL goals and two and a half seasons we haven't got a song for him.

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Re: The unsung hero

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:38 am

ClaretLoup wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:36 am
It's a disgrace that after 30 EPL goals and two and a half seasons we haven't got a song for him.
Chris woods on fire. Your defence is terrified.

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Re: The unsung hero

Post by Hibsclaret » Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:42 am

Jakubs Tash wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:41 am
Superb win and he took his goal unbelievably well but (and I hate to say this after such a wonderful win) Wood still really frustrates me with the rest of his general game. Using last night as an example, he often gave the ball away with poor control or a poor pass/lay off. We should have had the ball and instead Man Utd had it back and were once again applying pressure. These were simple things that Wood should really be better at too.

He puts bags of effort and has so much desire - I am not doubting that for one minute. But, like I said, I hate to say it after such a great win, let's not get carried away.....his overall game could be so much better. If Wood can improve these small details in his game he improves the team significantly.
Is that Jakubs tosh?
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Re: The unsung hero

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:45 am

I wouldn’t say it’s tosh.

Put another way, it’s only those deficiencies that mean the very top clubs are not in for him because his goal scoring record at this level is excellent.

I do think he’s improving as well.
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Re: The unsung hero

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:45 am

ClaretLoup wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:36 am
It's a disgrace that after 30 EPL goals and two and a half seasons we haven't got a song for him.
His feet are offside
His feet are offsideee
Chris Wood
Your feet are offside

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Re: The unsung hero

Post by Braindead » Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:49 am

Hopey1786 wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:30 am
We should never have paid that for jay hes out of his depth
Yeah he proved that beyond a doubt last night. :lol:

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Re: The unsung hero

Post by Hopey1786 » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:06 am

Braindead wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:49 am
Yeah he proved that beyond a doubt last night. :lol:
Funny how people scroll back to histotical posts when a player does the opposite
Before last nite hed done fuckall since returning

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Re: The unsung hero

Post by ClaretAndBlue94 » Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:07 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:41 am
Superb win and he took his goal unbelievably well but (and I hate to say this after such a wonderful win) Wood still really frustrates me with the rest of his general game. Using last night as an example, he often gave the ball away with poor control or a poor pass/lay off. We should have had the ball and instead Man Utd had it back and were once again applying pressure. These were simple things that Wood should really be better at too.

He puts bags of effort and has so much desire - I am not doubting that for one minute. But, like I said, I hate to say it after such a great win, let's not get carried away.....his overall game could be so much better. If Wood can improve these small details in his game he improves the team significantly.
That's the reason he plays for Burnley :lol:

I have been a major critic but I must say he is becoming more and more important as each game passes.

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Re: The unsung hero

Post by jrgbfc » Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:14 pm

ClaretLoup wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:36 am
It's a disgrace that after 30 EPL goals and two and a half seasons we haven't got a song for him.
I'd say it's worse that a lot of our fans still think he's called Chris Woods :lol:

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Re: The unsung hero

Post by Jakubs Tash » Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:22 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:42 am
Is that Jakubs tosh?
Just my opinion. Like I said, I like Wood and think we are a better team with him in it. I'm just not getting carried away about his technical ability (or lack of it) and think it could improve.

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Re: The unsung hero

Post by FactualFrank » Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:27 pm

He's done brilliantly for us. Whenever some have doubted him, he's come back and scored goals again.

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Re: The unsung hero

Post by KateR » Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:34 pm

everyone can improve, he has done well, better this season in my opinion as I feel someone sat down with him and explained the offside rule with little figures, he's certainly not frustrating me as much and doing well, Jay seems to be getting some understanding with him. Obviously playing a few real games together with pressure on helps build understanding I think, given the status I see the two together for quite a while barring another injury, which I hope continues to play dividends.

Jay's goal last night in exchange with Wood was really good, if ManU had scored a goal like that it would be repeated continually and the pundits would wet themselves. Of course it's Burnley and ManU are just rubbish at the moment, so obviously everyone expected us to thrash them there that bad!! That's right boring long ball Burnley, who just beat 3rd and 5th in the Table but that's because both those teams had off days and key players missing.
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Post by CombatClaret » Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:02 pm

Making sure we've had a striker with double digit returns season on season is a huge achievement.

Look at the relegated teams of the last few years and you'd conclude while not a guarantee, having a 10+ goal striker really boosts your odds of staying up.

- Fulham (11), Cardiff (5), Huddersfield (4)
- Swansea (7), Stoke (8), WBA (7)
- Hull (4), Boro (9), Sunderland (15)
- Newcastle (9), Norwich (7), Villa (7)

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Re: The unsung hero

Post by FactualFrank » Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:07 pm

CombatClaret wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:02 pm
Making sure we've had a striker with double digit returns season on season is a huge achievement.

Look at the relegated teams of the last few years and you'd conclude while not a guarantee, having a 10+ goal striker really boosts your odds of staying up.

- Fulham (11), Cardiff (5), Huddersfield (4)
- Swansea (7), Stoke (8), WBA (7)
- Hull (4), Boro (9), Sunderland (15)
- Newcastle (9), Norwich (7), Villa (7)
If he can get 15 league goals this season, that would be superb given our likely league position.

Only 7-8 players at most, achieve that per season.

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Re: The unsung hero

Post by houseboy » Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:17 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:07 pm
If he can get 15 league goals this season, that would be superb given our likely league position.

Only 7-8 players at most, achieve that per season.
He's actually on target for 16ish barring missing games or a drop in form. While you are on about likely league position and strikers in form that bloke from Norwich (the one who sounds like a Taiwanese football club :D ) ain't doin half bad.

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Post by bob-the-scutter » Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:24 pm

Hopey1786 wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:06 am
Funny how people scroll back to histotical posts when a player does the opposite
Before last nite hed done fuckall since returning
Was last night your 1st game?

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Re: The unsung hero

Post by Hopey1786 » Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:55 pm

bob-the-scutter wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:24 pm
Was last night your 1st game?
Ive been on every home game and most away and i still repeat hes done nowt when involved

Last nite he was fantastic

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Re: The unsung hero

Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:01 pm

We are simply a better team with Wood and Hendrick on the pitch

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Re: The unsung hero

Post by Braindead » Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:05 pm

Hopey1786 wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:06 am
Funny how people scroll back to histotical posts when a player does the opposite
Before last nite hed done fuckall since returning
Yeah i suppose seven Premier league starts and four Premier league goals including the winner at Bournemouth, equaliser at Villa and two wonder strikes against Chelsea and Man Utd equates to 'fuckall' in some fans' eyes.
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Post by bob-the-scutter » Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:31 pm

Hopey1786 wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:55 pm
Ive been on every home game and most away and i still repeat hes done nowt when involved

Last nite he was fantastic
Yeah i suppose seven Premier league starts and four Premier league goals including the winner at Bournemouth, equaliser at Villa and two wonder strikes against Chelsea and Man Utd equates to 'fuckall' in some fans' eyes.
This!

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Re: The unsung hero

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:34 pm

Braindead wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:05 pm
Yeah i suppose seven Premier league starts and four Premier league goals including the winner at Bournemouth, equaliser at Villa and two wonder strikes against Chelsea and Man Utd equates to 'fuckall' in some fans' eyes.

I think it’s personal for Cutsy/Hopey

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