Is this our best chance in years for a win at Old Trafford?

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Is this our best chance in years for a win at Old Trafford?

Post by dibraidio » Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:45 pm

Manchester United are nowhere near where they have been in previous years.
If we can play to our strengths surely we can unsettle OGS's young charges?

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Re: Is this our best chance in years for a win at Old Trafford?

Post by FactualFrank » Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:47 pm

"Is this our best chance in years for a win at Old Trafford?"

I wouldn't say so - our best chance was when we were 2-0 up!
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Re: Is this our best chance in years for a win at Old Trafford?

Post by Marney&Mee » Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:51 pm

when was the last time we won there ?

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Post by Down_Rover » Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:53 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:47 pm
"Is this our best chance in years for a win at Old Trafford?"

I wouldn't say so - our best chance was when we were 2-0 up!
indeed. In each of our last two visits if I am not mistaken

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Re: Is this our best chance in years for a win at Old Trafford?

Post by Darthlaw » Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:04 pm

Fingers crossed.

I can see them turning in their "one in four" decent performance in against us though. Given the weekend's result I'm more optimistic of beating them though.

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Post by Rowls » Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:06 pm

Best chance since the last time we were there.

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Post by taio » Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:09 pm

They've got injuries which is good, especially Rashford but largely depends on what tactics they deploy. They have the physique and athleticism to neutralise how we play. Mourinho was smart with his tactics. Hopefully OGS wont be.

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Re: Is this our best chance in years for a win at Old Trafford?

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:10 pm

Marney&Mee wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:51 pm
when was the last time we won there ?
September 1962, we won 5-2

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Post by Spijed » Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:11 pm

taio wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:09 pm
They've got injuries which is good, especially Rashford but largely depends on what tactics they deploy. They have the physique and athleticism to neutralise how we play. Mourinho was smart with his tactics. Hopefully OGS wont be.
Difference is Mourinho is a good manager, OGS is someone who isn't!

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Post by ElectroClaret » Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:17 pm

I think we'll be up for it, bit of pressure off us after the win over Leicester.
We need to go for it, not give em too much respect.

A point would be great.

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Post by Hopey1786 » Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:21 pm

Just get at em they dont like.it

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Re: Is this our best chance in years for a win at Old Trafford?

Post by dougcollins » Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:22 pm

The times when we were 2-0 up were probably our best chances, as already said.

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Re: Is this our best chance in years for a win at Old Trafford?

Post by Buxtonclaret » Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:37 pm

We've been knocking on the door there more than once in recent years.
We can do it. 8-)

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Post by dibraidio » Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:48 pm

Maybe I should have entitled this thread, is this the weakest Man Utd team we'll have played at Old Trafford in years?

Apparently they've got selection problems at the back with Lindelhof a doubt due to illness. Rashford will be a big loss for them. If our lads can raise themselves for the game like they have in the past who knows?

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Post by giveusaB » Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:53 pm

It may be a weaker Man Utd but they still have their 12th man Jon Moss . Remember last season.
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Post by jojomk1 » Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:54 pm

It looks like OGS has realised "you can't win anything with kids" as per Mr Hansen !
Matic is now back in the holding midfield role and doing quite well
Amazed at the upturn in form from Fred Flintstone
Has anyone noticed that Utd are 5th in the table
Would be over the moon if we were able to take even a point
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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:10 pm

Jon Moss is the ref, we could be 5-0 up against 8 men going into injury time and he'd still find a way for United to get a result
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Post by Taffy on the wing » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:14 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:10 pm
September 1962, we won 5-2
A repeat of that would send the doom squad into a tizzy!

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:00 pm

Rarely would I take a draw.

However I’d snap your hands off right now to be two nil up again and draw again.

Rashford missing is huge. Both he and Pogba are often very good against us.

That said. Even an out of form, short on numbers Man Utd is a tough game at Old Trafford.

In James, Martial, Wan Bissaka they have some very fast attacking players. And a top keeper.

I’d be looking to exploit their lack of pace at the back and if they play the same system as the Liverpool game, Shaw playing in a back three.

I’d also be getting Billy mercer on the phone to Craig Mawson to get some info :lol:

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Post by Steve1956 » Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:06 pm

In a word. yes

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Post by Top Claret » Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:12 pm

If we are to get anything at OT. Mee, Tarkowski and Cork will have to get their acts together. All three have been poor recently

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Post by evensteadiereddie » Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:20 pm

Indeed but I do think if we get at them, forcefully, strongly - nothing reckless- we can beat them. We will pose a threat at every set piece, particularly corners and must not allow ourselves to be penned back and, ultimately, picked off. Woody could have a field day.
United are shite and will resort to cheating to con the easily connable Moss into providing the points.
**** 'em, get stuck in and wind 'em up.

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Post by Giftonsnoidea » Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:20 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:10 pm
Jon Moss is the ref, we could be 5-0 up against 8 men going into injury time and he'd still find a way for United to get a result
Ole is probably briefing him to at least make it less obvious this time! I wonder if I can put a bet on that he gives at least one penalty to them, absolutely nailed on ( going to do some research) if we’re winning going into his injury time of 20+ mins

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Post by slw » Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:35 pm

hopefully we cant get a win, be well overdue. agree with above posts ,not looking foward to the amount of injury time though, prob 7-8 , or until Utd score. :roll:

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Post by Spijed » Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:42 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:10 pm
Jon Moss is the ref, we could be 5-0 up against 8 men going into injury time and he'd still find a way for United to get a result
That's nothing compared to what it will be like when we play Arsenal!

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Post by Iloveyoubrady » Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:52 pm

Come on get at them, mix it up like we did on Sunday, get the ball to wood in the box and we will score. Their defence can be bullied. Maguire makes Wood and Jay rod look like adama traore and whoever is partnered with him is not really up to it. Mcniel can tear wan bissaka to pieces and their midfield is nothing special.

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Re: Is this our best chance in years for a win at Old Trafford?

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:06 pm

Spijed wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:42 pm
That's nothing compared to what it will be like when we play Arsenal!
dare I ask who we've got ?

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:11 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:06 pm
dare I ask who we've got ?
Lee Mason with Fourth official Arsene Wenger and Laurent Koscielny running the line.
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Post by expoultryboy » Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:27 pm

A lot of United fans are moaning about the zonal system they use at corners plus the fact that De Gea stays on his line . With Wood , Mee and Tarks in the team , this could be a big problem for them . I'm sat in the south stand near the tunnel with my mate who's got 4 utd season tickets , so hopefully I'll have to sit on my hands . When Defour scored that awesome free kick , my lad jumped up which didn't go down to well !!

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Post by Jimmymaccer » Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:53 pm

This time last year"...........2 up............my other half said “looks like you’ve won this”..............”***********”! said I...

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Re: Is this our best chance in years for a win at Old Trafford?

Post by dougcollins » Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:14 pm

You wouldn't think Moss would be too keen on United, being from Leeds.

Just checked, born in Sunderland, lives in Leeds. Got a nice little vinyl shop.

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Post by Bosscat » Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:23 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:14 pm
lives in Leeds. Got a nice little vinyl shop.
Thought he was a Ref not a Lino
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Post by Jambounchained » Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:31 pm

Was also the headteacher at Ferney Lee School in Todmorden up until recently was Jon Moss

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Post by tiger76 » Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:38 pm

Lawro's predicting a 1-1,let's hope he's right ala Sunday.

That said their form at OT is decent,only Palace have won there in the PL,although both Everton and Villa have managed draws,the worry is their last 2 league results at home,include a 4-1 win over Newcastle,and a 4-0 win over Norwich,of course Rashford played a large part in those wins and he'll be a big miss for them,amongst their other absentees,our victory over Leicester should give us belief that we can get something tomorrow however.

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Post by Giftonsnoidea » Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:58 pm

Jambounchained wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:31 pm
Was also the headteacher at Ferney Lee School in Todmorden up until recently was Jon Moss
Needs to watch some videos of games reffed by PierreLuigi Collina as a priority

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Post by RammyClaret61 » Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:28 am

Giftonsnoidea wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:20 pm
Ole is probably briefing him to at least make it less obvious this time! I wonder if I can put a bet on that he gives at least one penalty to them, absolutely nailed on ( going to do some research) if we’re winning going into his injury time of 20+ mins
Sportsbet here in Oz are obviously expecting Utd more than us to get a pen
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Post by Giftonsnoidea » Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:34 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:11 pm
Lee Mason with Fourth official Arsene Wenger and Laurent Koscielny running the line.
When asked about anything controversial Wenger always used to say “I didn’t see it” surprised the guy didn’t get sponsored by specsavers at one point, it was nearly every week!

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Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:48 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:10 pm
September 1962, we won 5-2
Did you do the match report? ;)

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Post by SandyLaneClaret » Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:44 am

Can you pay on the gate/ Utd ticket office tonight? Serious question, didn't realise I could go til now. Doesn't look like we sold out.

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Post by bfcjg » Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:18 am

I think we go into the game with more confidence and we have been unlucky there last couple of times. If we keep it tight I fancy us to nick something.

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Post by ashtonlongsider » Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:29 am

Never seen Burnley win at OT in all the years i've been watching the Clarets. I've seen us blow 2-0 leads in our last two appearances (with a bit of help in the latter) and even going as far back as the '60's. They even came back to beat us after we were leading when they were a 2nd tier side against us in the 1st back in the mid seventies in a League Cup game. So I'm not full of optimism for tonight. I was encouraged by our resilience towards the end of the Leicester game and we'll need that in bucket loads tonight.

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Post by BOYSIE31 » Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:03 am

We will win tonight - can feel it

Jay scored the winner the last time he played there with West Brom - lets have it again

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Post by tiger76 » Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:28 am

BOYSIE31 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:03 am
We will win tonight - can feel it

Jay scored the winner the last time he played there with West Brom - lets have it again
Blimey it's not like you to be so positive BOYSIE are you feeling alright :lol: United's pace worries me but we can cause them problems going forward,if we can get enough of the ball,and bring McNeil and Jay Rod into the game.

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Post by Spijed » Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:50 am

tiger76 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:28 am
Blimey it's not like you to be so positive BOYSIE are you feeling alright :lol: United's pace worries me but we can cause them problems going forward,if we can get enough of the ball,and bring McNeil and Jay Rod into the game.
They seem to play in a similar way to Leicester

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Post by ElectroClaret » Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:50 am

Aliens have abducted the real BOYSIE. :P

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Post by Woodleyclaret » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:10 am

If we attack and not give a gutless display like in the home fixture we will win
Score early, keep it tight on Martial and Greenwood and we have a very good chance.The crowd will get edgy the longer we lead.Sit back and go for 00 like at Goodison and we've no chance.

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Post by Carport » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:24 am

Need to be up and at em like Sheff Utd were with City last night. Ok didn’t win but gave them a proper game. Have some of our fitness levels dropped off from what they were? We don’t seem to play with quite the same intensity or dogged ‘thou shall not pass’ attitude.

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Post by NL Claret » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:43 am

Try to remember it is Manchester United we are playing. Okay they are not at their best however they do have a team with international players who cost a substantial amount of money.

If we lose try to remember it was Manchester United and don't post about how United were their for the taking. There is still a massive gulf between burnley and Manchester United.

Bookies have us at 8/1. It is going to be very difficult to get anything but we can hope. 3 draws in last 3 and played very well in the 3-1 defeat when we played in tin foil.

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Post by LeadBelly » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:45 am

With my bookie, 2-2 is 22/1. Couldnt resist a fiver on that. Would be amazing if it was a hat-trick of 2-2s though; even more amazing if we got 3 points.

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Re: Is this our best chance in years for a win at Old Trafford?

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:23 pm

Rowls wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:06 pm
Best chance since the last time we were there.
We blew it big-time last year, aided and abetted by Jon Moss, a dodgy penalty decision, and a hand ball by Jones in the build up to their equalizer.

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