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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by kentonclaret » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:56 am

Nakhi Wells will still be strutting his stuff down at Loftus Road come Saturday afternoon. :lol:

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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by FactualFrank » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:03 am

It looks like we beat West Ham to him too.

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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by TVC15 » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:04 am

Stan Tastic wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:46 am
First Harry Potts Way and now Brownhill Avenue, really makes you think.
Wait till we sign Barry Brunshaw from Scunthorpe tomorrow

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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:04 am

williamjblazkowicz wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:32 am
Bristol City have our pants down if Wells is only going there for £4mil. Hope it's more than that!
1m less than we paid. We’ve rarely played him and he’s never scored here and he’s not long left on his deal and almost thirty.

I’d say four million is a result.
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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:07 am

clive40golf wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:22 am
So who does everyone think he’ll replace in the first team?
Jay in a 451 away

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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by williamjblazkowicz » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:07 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:04 am
1m less than we paid. We’ve rarely played him and he’s never scored here and he’s not long left on his deal and almost thirty.

I’d say four million is a result.
With the way the market is heading, I'd have expected more for a striker who has scored so many in the Championship this season, particularly when selling in the January transfer window. However, I'm not privy to whether there were other offers for Wells, for how much etc. If this is the best we can do then so be it. Brownhill looks a promising acquisition.

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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:09 am

williamjblazkowicz wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:07 am
With the way the market is heading, I'd have expected more for a striker who has scored so many in the Championship this season, particularly when selling in the January transfer window. However, I'm not privy to whether there were other offers for Wells, for how much etc. If this is the best we can do then so be it. Brownhill looks a promising acquisition.
I don’t disagree but don’t think we were in a strong position to bargain on wells.

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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by evensteadiereddie » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:13 am

It's good business all round, the first, relatively inexpensive step towards a part-rebuild of the squad and gives us a timely boost to get the three or so wins we need.
Plenty of dosh, irrespective of what happens with Vydra, Hart, Lennon and so on, for the Summer.

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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by kentonclaret » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:18 am

QPR wanted to sign Nakhi Wells as soon as news broke that Burnley were recalling him from his loan arrangement with Lee Hoos commenting "Our current valuations on the player are far apart and we cannot agree to a deal which will leave us in breach of FFP'."

Either QPR did not value Nakhi Wells as worth £4m or they were quoted a higher figure to sign him maybe?

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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by Colburn_Claret » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:21 am

ashtonlongsider wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:52 am
I know it's all about opinions but for the life of me I can't understand why some people think any new midfield, who we may or may not sign will replace Jack Cork. JC has been more or less ever present since he returned at the start of the 17/18 season and has been a major contributor to our success. I personally don't see that situation changing any time soon.
I like Jack, he gives 100% every game, but he is far too lightweight. We need some muscle in the middle of the park, and Jack is soft, he regularly ends on his backside when he tries to tackle someone. Opposition walking through our midfield has been a long standing issue, and although Jack can't take all the blame for this, he is definitely the weakest link. Westwood is definitely more of a terrier nipping at your ankles type, and is more creative, more often, than Jack as well. There'll still be a roll for both at this club, but I hope Brownhill can be the midfielder we've been crying out for since D4 first went sick.

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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by Jel » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:22 am

mdd2 wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:06 am
Makes sense to undervalue both from our point of view so that there is no profit from Wells and nothing owed to Huddersfield. This cunning plan was aired by another poster somewhere on here yesterday. Maybe he advises the Board and Mike Rigg?
Also helps BC with FFP

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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:22 am

kentonclaret wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:18 am
QPR wanted to sign Nakhi Wells as soon as news broke that Burnley were recalling him from his loan arrangement with Lee Hoos commenting "Our current valuations on the player are far apart and we cannot agree to a deal which will leave us in breach of FFP'."

Either QPR did not value Nakhi Wells as worth £4m or they were quoted a higher figure to sign him maybe?
I think the answer is never to believe the figures that you sometimes see quoted.

And I know exactly what we will get for him if the deal goes through, the same as we get for every player we sell or we pay for any incoming player - UNDISCLOSED

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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by enduroclaret » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:25 am

Will we actually seen Brownhill play for Burnley?
I'm sure Dyche has used most of his latest signings as bench warmers, to put pressure on the existing players in an attempt to get more out of them.
Jay Rod only starts now because Barnes is injured.

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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by Colburn_Claret » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:26 am

kentonclaret wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:18 am
QPR wanted to sign Nakhi Wells as soon as news broke that Burnley were recalling him from his loan arrangement with Lee Hoos commenting "Our current valuations on the player are far apart and we cannot agree to a deal which will leave us in breach of FFP'."

Either QPR did not value Nakhi Wells as worth £4m or they were quoted a higher figure to sign him maybe?
You're missing the obvious.
Wether its 4 for Nakhi, and 10 for Brownhill, or 24 for Nakhi and 30 for Brownhill, the cost is the same to us. Except that we don't have to pay anything to Udders.
I'm sure a cash only deal to QPR would have been a lot more then 4 million.

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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by Stayingup » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:26 am

Steve1956 wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:27 am
Does anyone know anything about Brownhill.what type of player is he?

Its north of Blackburn. There is a pub there on the traffic island. Sorry but I felt like it!!

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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by SGr » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:27 am

I’d like to think we’re signing a first team player here

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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by BOYSIE31 » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:30 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:22 am
I think the answer is never to believe the figures that you sometimes see quoted.

And I know exactly what we will get for him if the deal goes through, the same as we get for every player we sell or we pay for any incoming player - UNDISCLOSED
Why are all our deals undisclosed though ?

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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by SGr » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:30 am

Just having a look here at the positions in which Brownhill has played this season. Obviously a centre mid by trade but has played on the right a couple of times.

Could this be the Jeff Hendrick replacement in advance?

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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by Murger » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:32 am

Hopefully this is a signing that will actually get some gametime.

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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:38 am

BOYSIE31 wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:30 am
Why are all our deals undisclosed though ?
A lot of clubs do this now and a few years ago Wolves pulled out of a deal because the other club insisted on the details being made public.

I think one reason is that the deals are always so complicated financially so you pay a fee for a player that could be the final fee but could then go up if triggers are met such as appearances, goals, international caps. Jay Rod's was one such deal I know of to Southampton. We got extra money every time he reached a set number of games up to a maximum. It was the same when Brian Easton signed for us, we had to pay more to Hamilton at certain points.

Then, of course, you get all the confusion of the Andre Gray signing from Brentford, although Luton stuck their noses into that one because of what they were getting and we were able to piece it all together.

So imagine we sign a player for £20 million (I know we won't) and then it suddenly goes up to £25 or even £30 million because of what he's achieved at Burnley.

I don't know if all that's the reason but we, as a club, ensure all deals are undisclosed as much as we can.
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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by Stayingup » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:43 am

Bosscat wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:37 am
Hope he doesn't start frequenting this pub

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I thought you might post something like this. Haha. But what about the cur purk?

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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by TVC15 » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:45 am

kentonclaret wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:18 am
QPR wanted to sign Nakhi Wells as soon as news broke that Burnley were recalling him from his loan arrangement with Lee Hoos commenting "Our current valuations on the player are far apart and we cannot agree to a deal which will leave us in breach of FFP'."

Either QPR did not value Nakhi Wells as worth £4m or they were quoted a higher figure to sign him maybe?
You forgot the other possibility that QPR no longer have a pot to p-iss in.

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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by martin_p » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:47 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:38 am
A lot of clubs do this now and a few years ago Wolves pulled out of a deal because the other club insisted on the details being made public.

I think one reason is that the deals are always so complicated financially so you pay a fee for a player that could be the final fee but could then go up if triggers are met such as appearances, goals, international caps. Jay Rod's was one such deal I know of to Southampton. We got extra money every time he reached a set number of games up to a maximum. It was the same when Brian Easton signed for us, we had to pay more to Hamilton at certain points.
Surely the ‘points’ Brian Easton reached should have had Hamilton paying us!
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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by Bosscat » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:49 am

Stayingup wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:43 am
I thought you might post something like this. Haha. But what about the cur purk?
;) did you used to frequent the 'sainted' Lancashire Blackburnegraph forums ????

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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by Dark Cloud » Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:05 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:38 am
A lot of clubs do this now and a few years ago Wolves pulled out of a deal because the other club insisted on the details being made public.

I think one reason is that the deals are always so complicated financially so you pay a fee for a player that could be the final fee but could then go up if triggers are met such as appearances, goals, international caps. Jay Rod's was one such deal I know of to Southampton. We got extra money every time he reached a set number of games up to a maximum. It was the same when Brian Easton signed for us, we had to pay more to Hamilton at certain points.

Then, of course, you get all the confusion of the Andre Gray signing from Brentford, although Luton stuck their noses into that one because of what they were getting and we were able to piece it all together.

So imagine we sign a player for £20 million (I know we won't) and then it suddenly goes up to £25 or even £30 million because of what he's achieved at Burnley.

I don't know if all that's the reason but we, as a club, ensure all deals are undisclosed as much as we can.
In the main I don't have an issue with the club (any club) not publicising the fees on transfers, although it does then lead to lots of hot air and speculation on message boards! But I always assume that the EXACT details of any and every deal must be given to the PL or FL in some way so that when clauses are triggered, whatever they may be, possibly years down the line, other clubs get precisely what's due to them and there's no dispute or reneging.

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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by kentonclaret » Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:08 pm

"You forgot the other possibility that QPR no longer have a pot to p-iss in"

I am sure they have but can't spend it because of breaching FFP as mentioned in my post.

And even if they didn't they could easily swell their coffers by selling on some of their exciting young talent like Eze.

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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by MACCA » Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:14 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:30 am
Why are all our deals undisclosed though ?
To protect the player, manager and board.

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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by Dougall » Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:14 pm

mdd2 wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:30 am
Replaces Marney who replaced Deary?
We've never replaced John Deary -are you not paying attention?!
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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by Bfc » Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:14 pm

Brownhill Ave, Harry Potts Way, Adamson St, Brown St, Randall St, Murray St, Heath St, Basnett St,Dawson Sq, Shackleton St, Lawson St, Talbot St, Lindsey/Lyndsey St, Branch Rd, Higgin St. All out of top of my head. There’s probably more player name connections.
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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by ClaretMov » Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:26 pm

Clevedon Claret wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:36 am
I see Brownhill as Cork's replacement rather than Hendrick. Younger, faster, stronger.
Strange because when he plays for Bristol he plays out wide right not in centre mid

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Post by kentonclaret » Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:26 pm

If all of the transfer dealings were "undisclosed" Jim White would not be able to go into meltdown claiming excitedly "Spending in this January window already tops £1.5 billion and rising". :lol:

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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by Giftonsnoidea » Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:42 pm

I’m glad us paupers are signing someone , shame about Podence looked a great player against us. Fourtounis also, swapping Athens for Burnley though is a big ask though.

Definitely gave Bristol a sweet deal but prob our only chance of getting the player in , well done to BFC!

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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by Clarets4me » Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:55 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:29 am
Brownhill, just seen off Brunshaw Road
I saw him in Blackburn near the Knowles Arms, in a roundabout fashion ....

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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by superdimitri » Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:04 pm

ClaretMov wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:26 pm
Strange because when he plays for Bristol he plays out wide right not in centre mid
You sure about this? He wears number 8 and as far as I've seen he's of the Hendrick irk.

He's an attacking midfielder who may be able to play right side and might do so swapping with wingers who cut in from time to time (City tend to play 4141) but his natural position is almost certainly central.

Can't wait to see what he can do, Central or not. Maybe he'll turn up to games more than Hendrick does.
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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by Clarets4me » Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:13 pm

Dougall wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:14 pm
We've never replaced John Deary -are you not paying attention?!
Ah John Deary, great engine, could tackle, box to box midfielder with a few goals in him ... great at that level for us.

Who can forget him grabbing Dean Kiely by the throat, and pinning him into the back of the net after he'd hacked down Robbie Painter ( ? ) as he wheeled away to celebrate our equalizer at York ?? :lol:
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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by claretlegend » Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:15 pm

Did Josh Brownhill or his brother used to play in our youth side a few years ago? Apologies if already mentioned.

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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by mdd2 » Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:44 pm

BBC says £9m for Josh and £5m for Wells

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Post by FCBurnley » Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:47 pm

mdd2 wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:44 pm
BBC says £9m for Josh and £5m for Wells
Great deal if true

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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by FactualFrank » Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:51 pm

mdd2 wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:44 pm
BBC says £9m for Josh and £5m for Wells
That can't be true. A poster said we wouldn't get close to £5m for Wells.

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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by dermotdermot » Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:59 pm

I wish that they’d just get on with it. This seems to be taking hours.
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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by agreenwood » Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:02 pm

Wells’ goals this season have helped us recoup a good fee. If you’d have told me a year ago we might get a decent fee for him I’d have been amazed.
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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by JohnMac » Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:04 pm

dermotdermot wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:59 pm
I wish that just get on with it. This seems to be taking hours.
What ever happended to 'Drop your keks and cough' :D

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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by Yanquiclaret » Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:07 pm

Don't understand the logic of the posters appearing gleeful Huddersfield won't get anything out of it. They would not be getting 100% of the profit so we still get more money for Wells even if Town get a % provided we can sell him for more than we paid for him which apparently we can't. There is no upside for us not to maximise the amount of money Wells is going for. We are selling him for the most we can get. IF QPR were able to pay a larger sum in cash than Bristol he would have been sold to QPR and the extra cash converted into payment for Brownhill.

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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by Funkydrummer » Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:09 pm

9-5, 10-6, 11-7, 12-8 and so on ad finitum. The net cost remains the same but we have
struck a deal that avoids us having to pay anything to Huddersfax.

Very slick dealing in my book, but why do some people fail to understand the logic behind this deal ?

Leave it to the pro's who are totally in the know and not shooting in the dark like we all are.

Onwards and upwards rode the mighty Clarets.
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Post by Fretters » Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:12 pm

We've been clever with the sell on fee. Huddersfield must hate us after the whole chief exec debacle recently too!

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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by Marney&Mee » Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:17 pm

Bfc wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:14 pm
Brownhill Ave, Harry Potts Way, Adamson St, Brown St, Randall St, Murray St, Heath St, Basnett St,Dawson Sq, Shackleton St, Lawson St, Talbot St, Lindsey/Lyndsey St, Branch Rd, Higgin St. All out of top of my head. There’s probably more player name connections.
Every Street anyone ?

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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:19 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:05 pm
In the main I don't have an issue with the club (any club) not publicising the fees on transfers, although it does then lead to lots of hot air and speculation on message boards! But I always assume that the EXACT details of any and every deal must be given to the PL or FL in some way so that when clauses are triggered, whatever they may be, possibly years down the line, other clubs get precisely what's due to them and there's no dispute or reneging.
I would think everything about the deal will have to be submitted to the Premier League. I’m sure they will have all the contracts.

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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by Iloveyoubrady » Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:20 pm

Some saying Brownhill is a right mid or attacking midfielder. He’s a centre mid, but just better going towards than what we have got. Good signing I think.

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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:22 pm

claretlegend wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:15 pm
Did Josh Brownhill or his brother used to play in our youth side a few years ago? Apologies if already mentioned.
Yes, Kyle Brownhill was in the dev squad. Think he was here for just the 2013/14 season. Signed from Stockport I think.

Gets a mention in an article I’ve written but not used as yet.

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Re: Brownhill having medical

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:24 pm

martin_p wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:47 am
Surely the ‘points’ Brian Easton reached should have had Hamilton paying us!
No comment :D

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