Sander Berg, anyone seen him play? Massive fee for sheff utd that.

He's quite highly rated. Think he's only 21 but he's played in the Champions league and already got 20 odd caps for Norway. Maybe we should ask their European scouting team for a few pointers?

Bolton, Portsmouth, etc

To play devils advocate it's a lot easier to get caps and Champions League games If you're from Norway and play in Belgium.

I'm quite happy our punt on a 20 something lad cost less than half this.

ClaretAndJew wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:02 pm

Bolton, Portsmouth, etc

I’m not sure they have European scouts anymore.

CombatClaret wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:06 pm

To play devils advocate it's a lot easier to get caps and Champions League games If you're from Norway and play in Belgium.

I'm quite happy our punt on a 20 something lad cost less than half this.

Yeah obviously, no guarantee this lad will hack it in the Prem either. Its certainly a good show of ambition from Sheff United though.

Not seen him play but his brother "Ice" is a cool customer

Did no-one see him in the game between Liverpool and Genk?

Quite a talented and powerful Norwegian box to box player.

They have paid a substantial amount for him, but he's only 21 years old and I think he'll do well for them

Bosscat wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:30 pm

Not seen him play but his brother "Ice" is a cool customer

Yep strong enough to destroy a titanic defender

ClaretAndJew wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:02 pm

Bolton, Portsmouth, etc

Can't tell whether you're implying Sheffield United are going the way of them or not...

jrgbfc wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:16 pm

Yeah obviously, no guarantee this lad will hack it in the Prem either. Its certainly a good show of ambition from Sheff United though.

Sheffield United said owner Prince Abdullah took a "personal interest" in the signing and was "instrumental in the negotiations".


Show's they've got a rich backer who want's to play Football Manager 2020

Off Topic but I see Bong has gone to Forest from Brighton....

jrgbfc wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:02 pm

He's quite highly rated. Think he's only 21 but he's played in the Champions league and already got 20 odd caps for Norway. Maybe we should ask their European scouting team for a few pointers?

The signings of Berge and Brownhill are indicative of one club that has wealthy backers that can underwrite losses, and another that doesn’t, and has to be sensible.

We’ll know about Sander Berge. We just can’t afford him.

At some point the penny will drop.

Spent some money have Sheff U.

That’s over £60m since the summer.

another "team" backed by a country

SGr wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:18 pm

Can't tell whether you're implying Sheffield United are going the way of them or not...

Let's hope they do

Ah, the Sheffield United fairytale continues, you know the one, the tiny club battling against the odds, defying reality to achieve unparalleled success.
*****.

evensteadiereddie wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:58 pm

Ah, the Sheffield United fairytale continues, you know the one, the tiny club battling against the odds, defying reality to achieve unparalleled success.
*****.

To be fair Wilder took them from League 1 to the Premier League in 3 years with a net profit of £4m and to put in perspective his full spend in those 3 years wasn't much more than we paid for Andre Gray alone

They've now got some investment and Wilder has so far invested the money well and got them playing great football

Dont understand all the butt hurt around Sheff Utd cos like us they did things the right way and earned their place in the Premier League

What an incredible signing for Sheffield Utd who have only been in the prem for five mins. Real ambition.

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:19 pm

They've now got some investment and Wilder has so far invested the money well and got them playing great football

Last time I looked there were only four teams who scored less!

Spijed wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:51 pm

Last time I looked there were only four teams who scored less!

Whats your point?

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:54 pm

Whats your point?

The point being the football can't be that great if you score few goals.

They've built their success on being very good defensively.

Spijed wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:59 pm

The point being the football can't be that great if you score few goals.

They've built their success on being very good defensively.

You dont half talk some nonsense. They the play good passing football, have a go at teams and get players forward.

As a newly promoted team they do it in a controlled manner and defend well but when you can keep possession and push teams back then keeping the ball out of your own net becomes easier

Do you not agree that Burnley played some great football the season we came 7th then?

jrgbfc wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:16 pm

Its certainly a good show of ambition from Sheff United though.

Good grief, you really are a twisted melt.

They paid £17m for McBurnie and have a wealthy owner.

I wonder what will become of all these middle east backers once the west has got rid of combustion engines.

He might be fantastic, he also might be gash.

Huge difference in league, Trossard has hardly smashed this league up at Brighton has he? I’m far happier with spending what we have on what is also a gamble than £22m on someone who has to also acclimatise to the country and frenetic nature of English football.

Papabendi wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:45 pm

What an incredible signing for Sheffield Utd who have only been in the prem for five mins. Real ambition.

Why on earth doesn't Mike Garlick spend money like Prince Abdullah? Is it lack of ambition?

Love the notion that ambition is matched by transfer fees paid.

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:24 am

Love the notion that ambition is matched by transfer fees paid.

In this day and age im afraid it is - by spending money they are showing to try and improve what they already have and all teams do it.

Its supposed to be the higher fee payed the better the player but obviously does not always work like that but its a higher chance that he will be a better footballer than they already have.

I mean you are not going to get Messi for 7 million now are you.

BOYSIE31 wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:38 am

In this day and age im afraid it is - by spending money they are showing to try and improve what they already have and all teams do it.

Its supposed to be the higher fee payed the better the player but obviously does not always work like that but its a higher chance that he will be a better footballer than they already have.

I mean you are not going to get Messi for 7 million now are you.

You aren't gonna get Pickford, Sanchez, Pogba or Joelinton either

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:42 am

You aren't gonna get Pickford, Sanchez, Pogba or Joelinton either

Are you saying that these are all poor footballers ?

BOYSIE31 wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:50 am

Are you saying that these are all poor footballers ?

Saying they haven't lived up to the ambition, if the fee shows you the ambition

Bold move from Sheff U this, if it works out well then fair play to them.

There's always a danger though in the sort of signing that breaks the mould. Berge was being linked with much bigger clubs than Sheff U only a few days ago, and that reflects that his profile is very different to the rest of Sheff U's players - to date their recruitment has followed a very similar model to Burnley when we came up, focusing on players from around the Championship who are similar to the players they already had. He'll no doubt be commanding very different wages to his other team mates and we've seen other teams struggle to make that clash work.

But - a statement of intent signing, no doubt about it.

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:51 am

Saying they haven't lived up to the ambition, if the fee shows you the ambition

Yeah i understand what you are trying to say but all full internationals and you could question the attitude of most of those.

But the ambition is by the club for the fans to see what they are trying to do not individual players.

claretspice wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:55 am

Bold move from Sheff U this, if it works out well then fair play to them.

There's always a danger though in the sort of signing that breaks the mould. Berge was being linked with much bigger clubs than Sheff U only a few days ago, and that reflects that his profile is very different to the rest of Sheff U's players - to date their recruitment has followed a very similar model to Burnley when we came up, focusing on players from around the Championship who are similar to the players they already had. He'll no doubt be commanding very different wages to his other team mates and we've seen other teams struggle to make that clash work.

But - a statement of intent signing, no doubt about it.

Thats exactly what i would like us to make but should have been done last summer - a statement of intent signing

Sebastian Haller cost West Ham £40 million

BOYSIE31 wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:01 am

Thats exactly what i would like us to make but should have been done last summer - a statement of intent signing

But once you make one signing like that you have to make more if you want to improve and that means you cant do it on Premier league money alone.

And with gates of 20,000 then there is the danger of FFP coming into play.

They are doing what we did - trying to gradually change a squad of mostly championship players into a Premier League team.
Sheff United’s wage bill is still significantly less than ours. Of course they have had an amazing first season but they know from the history of the league that this can change very quickly - and they did not have a squad like Wolves had which was already full of top class players.

Sheff United basically replicating what we and other newly promoted teams did should not be another stick to beat Burnley with. See whether they are still making transfers like this when they have a wage bill as high as ours - and even if they do it will be based on increasing their level of debt.

It's not a "bold" move from Sheffield United at all - they have almost unlimited funds. If this one works, good for them , if it doesn't, they'll buy a few more in the Summer.
You've got to love the "plucky Blades" crap.

So what do we all think about their latest signing?
They are not messing about; Europa League ambitions, perhaps?

boatshed bill wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:51 pm

So what do we all think about their latest signing?
They are not messing about; Europa League ambitions, perhaps?

Man U weren't messing about when they signed Harry Maguire for £80 million, nor Sebastien Haller (£40 million) - West Ham, nor Wesley £25 million - Aston Villa.

Pretty much all have been flops this season - for what they were expected to achieve.

BOYSIE31 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:01 am
Thats exactly what i would like us to make but should have been done last summer - a statement of intent signing.

Statement of intent means absolutely nothing. Glad you aren't in charge. For someone who has a lot to say on this board I'm surprised you put so much faith in the abstract.

jedi_master wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:15 pm

He might be fantastic, he also might be gash.

Huge difference in league, Trossard has hardly smashed this league up at Brighton has he? I’m far happier with spending what we have on what is also a gamble than £22m on someone who has to also acclimatise to the country and frenetic nature of English football.

I expect a lot more from Trossard next season - he's a better version of Knockaert if you ask me

Spijed wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:09 pm

Man U weren't messing about when they signed Harry Maguire for £80 million, nor Sebastien Haller (£40 million) - West Ham, nor Wesley £25 million - Aston Villa.

Pretty much all have been flops this season - for what they were expected to achieve.

You do realise that I'm referring to the loan signing, Zivkovic, not Berge?
Looks like they are giving it a real go.

And now some fella called Retsos!!

All 3 players were wonderkids on last year's Football Manager. Makes you wonder where some teams are scouting from!
Could all be pants but in the last 2-3 years a lot of "wonder kids" from the game have actually started hitting there stride.

Tielmans, Emre Can, Goretzka, Jesus... Even Ziyech were some of the best young players you could get in the game over the past 5 years. Long way away from Cerno Samba days!

Conroy92 wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 31, 2020 5:59 pm

All 3 players were wonderkids on last year's Football Manager. Makes you wonder where some teams are scouting from!
Could all be pants but in the last 2-3 years a lot of "wonder kids" from the game have actually started hitting there stride.

Tielmans, Emre Can, Goretzka, Jesus... Even Ziyech were some of the best young players you could get in the game over the past 5 years. Long way away from Cerno Samba days!

Successful moves or not, it does show intent by Sheffield Utd and their belief in what can achieve. it also shows the extent of their new(ish) financial clout.

And without the latter, they'd not have the former.

All they’ll do with too many incomings on better money than those who got them there is upset the Apple cart... wheels will fall off if they’re not careful.

evensteadiereddie wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:15 pm

And without the latter, they'd not have the former.

No doubting that.