HAPPY BREXIT DAY EVERYONE!

[evensteadiereddie]

I made a joke. And, surprise surprise, someone who'd had a sense of humourectony seized upon it , took the opportunity to silence me.

No foul and abusive language, no personal abuse, just a joke. But hey, it was Ringo.....

I've clearly got under the skin of a handful havent I

Hey-ho ......

Ah, the old "It was just banter, honest." crap.
Bit ironic - and hypocritical -you being banned, though, what with you always bleating about being the victim, silenced even

[aggi]

We elect a government to make decisions. To entrust such a monumental decision to the populace with well below average intelligence is not at all wise. This is demonstrated quite clearly by the fellow in the first clip who, like probably about 99% of leavers, think that by voting the way they did, they would limit muslim immigration. He was okay about Europeans coming here but just didn’t want anymore Muslims. That is why he voted to leave Europe.

Oh, and by the way, you spell ‘whether’ with an ‘h’ and, not as you have done, ‘wether’, without.

Surely the populace has average intelligence.

[Damo]

Anyone run out of insulin yet?

[Rileybobs]

The people crowing about how nothing has changed the day after we have left the EU aren’t exactly dispelling the myths regarding lack of intelligence.

[Damo]

Fairly sure I remember seeing lots of comments on here regarding huge tailbacks at ports and airports the moment we leave the EU. Resulting in food and medicine shortages.
The amount of things some of you remainers have got wrong proves there are thickos on both sides

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

You're probably right to be fair.

But, when I do it, I've enough self awareness and objectivity to realise that there's a gaggle of posters that I've clearly needled since the referendum result.

Sad really.

Did you actually get to celebrate your special day? Just you seemed to have spent the majority of yesterday posting on here what a great day you were planning on having!

[Rileybobs]

Fairly sure I remember seeing lots of comments on here regarding huge tailbacks at ports and airports the moment we leave the EU. Resulting in food and medicine shortages.
The amount of things some of you remainers have got wrong proves there are thickos on both sides

If people thought that would happen immediately after leaving the EU whilst in a transition period then I agree that they are thick. Cant remember seeing anybody claiming such a thing on here though.

Your goading of the remainers after finally getting what you wanted makes you look extremely childish. We’ve left the EU - move on.

[Burnley Ace]

Fairly sure I remember seeing lots of comments on here regarding huge tailbacks at ports and airports the moment we leave the EU. Resulting in food and medicine shortages.
The amount of things some of you remainers have got wrong proves there are thickos on both sides

Are you deliberately being stupid? What is it you don’t understand about what’s happened yesterday? We are still in the single market so why would there be tailbacks?

[Damo]

If people thought that would happen immediately after leaving the EU whilst in a transition period then I agree that they are thick. Cant remember seeing anybody claiming such a thing on here though.

Your goading of the remainers after finally getting what you wanted makes you look extremely childish. We’ve left the EU - move on.

One of your previous posts, was one insinuating people who voted brexit are of low intelligence
Seems a bit contradictory you being offended by a few silly comments poking fun at the failure of some remainers predictions.

[Rileybobs]

One of your previous posts, was one insinuating people who voted brexit are of low intelligence
Seems a bit contradictory you being offended by a few silly comments poking fun at the failure of some remainers predictions.

I didn’t insinuate people who voted to leave the EU are of low intelligence so don’t make things up.

And I’m not offended by any of your silly comments - I’m just pointing out how stupid they are and how your baiting of remainers after finally leaving the EU is making you look childish.

Move on.

[Devils_Advocate]

To be fair all the remainers predictions on here about these kind of events were based on us crashing out of the EU with no deal.

I'd guess one bit of common ground we all share (but for the real bat sh*t crazy loons) is that this hasn't happened.....yet!!

[Paul Waine]

The NHS, which don’t get me wrong is a fantastic institution, hasn’t evolved with the times and has become a massive sponge which will absorb as much money as you throw at it without the expected levels of improvement. It needs a root and branch overhaul to reduce the wastage that is an ever present. Too many chiefs and not enough Indians (this, for any Woke snowflakes amongst us, is an old saying, not a racial slur) is one of many expensive problems with it. However, there are too many left wingers that won’t countenance any worthwhile change without calling it a Tory plan to Privatise it.

The NHS has a number of great hospitals and many of the doctors, nurses and other staff are dedicated, hard workers, great carers and the best professionals you'd ever want to be looked after by.

The problem with the NHS is that it is "state owned" and, funded by government decisions on how to spend taxpayer money. That why it's a "massive sponge" as you describe it - and, that's not a recent issue, it's been like that from "day one." A "root and branch" overhaul will tackle the way it is funded. Change it so that "the patient pays" and immediately the health service will adjust to provide what the patient needs - and not what the government decided 12, 18 or 24 months earlier (and even longer when government decided how many doctors and nurses to train). Of course, for the patient to have the money to pay, all of us, except the very wealthy will require health insurance - so, implement compulsory health insurance, the way they do in Netherlands, Germany, France (I think) and other major EU countries - and charge a little extra to those that can afford, so that those on "no/very" low income get their health insurance provided from free.

That's why I say it's a pity the EU didn't mandate a better national health service for all members...

Oh, and yes, we might have spent more than the UK does, so better health outcomes, also. What's not to like?

[Stayingup]

Its quite amazing how many people want to be governed and dictated to by an undemocratic bureaucratic sclerotic and downright unpleasant, unaccountable, offshore power. Each to their own I suppose.

[Damo]

To be fair all the remainers predictions on here about these kind of events were based on us crashing out of the EU with no deal.

Which was always extremely unlikely.
It didnt stop people posting about food and medicine shortages on Brexit thread after Brexit thread though.
Anyway, given some of the absolute tosh posted about brexiteers and remainers over the past few years, I cant help but laugh at people getting so worked up about the jokey comments about nothing changing today.

Some real sensitive souls on here sometimes

[Rileybobs]

Which was always extremely unlikely.
It didnt stop people posting about food and medicine shortages on Brexit thread after Brexit thread though.
Anyway, given some of the absolute tosh posted about brexiteers and remainers over the past few years, I cant help but laugh at people getting so worked up about the jokey comments about nothing changing today.

Some real sensitive souls on here sometimes

I hardly contributed to the brexit threads so you’re mistaken if you think I’m getting worked up about the jokey comments. I tried to do you a favour by pointing out how daft you’re making yourself look, but by all means carry on.

[BennyD]

We elect a government to make decisions. To entrust such a monumental decision to the populace with well below average intelligence is not at all wise. This is demonstrated quite clearly by the fellow in the first clip who, like probably about 99% of leavers, think that by voting the way they did, they would limit muslim immigration. He was okay about Europeans coming here but just didn’t want anymore Muslims. That is why he voted to leave Europe.

Oh, and by the way, you spell ‘whether’ with an ‘h’ and, not as you have done, ‘wether’, without.

So, above what IQ should we allow people to vote? It doesn’t matter wHether you agree with his decision, or how he reached it, is irrelevant, his vote counts just as much as your’s. It could be that you have an IQ below the threshold and, therefore, wouldn’t be allowed to vote either. Ps; thanks for the lesson in spelling.

[evensteadiereddie]

"your’s." and "either. Ps;"

You've still a bit of work to do, Biggles.

[Devils_Advocate]

Which was always extremely unlikely.
It didnt stop people posting about food and medicine shortages on Brexit thread after Brexit thread though.
Anyway, given some of the absolute tosh posted about brexiteers and remainers over the past few years, I cant help but laugh at people getting so worked up about the jokey comments about nothing changing today.

Some real sensitive souls on here sometimes

No problem with you having your fun, i've had my fair share of it myself. Whether it was likely or not the claims were made in the context of discussion with the Brexit fruitcakes who were backing a No Deal and boasting how good it would be

As for sensitive souls on here the bulk of them seems to be right leaning people who get themselves in a tiz about women on the radio who don't like football or child activists etc

[Colburn_Claret]

Job opportunities for Brexiteers when the economy goes tits up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGex0kLgNok

And to think this was an absurd comedy sketch just 20 years ago

Is that the economy thats forecast to be the fastest growing in Europe?

[Heathclaret]

Is that the economy thats forecast to be the fastest growing in Europe?

By who?

[bfcjg]

Perhaps the people who want us to stay in or rejoin should set an example and personally chip in to bail out the failing economies we used to subsidise .
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/brexit-hangov ... 29890.html

[Devils_Advocate]

By who?

I think he's referring to the recent IMF report that has forecasted the UK to have better growth than the Eurozone.

The report comes with key caveats and dependencies around an orderly exit and a gradual transition towards a new economic relationship. Not impossible but the noises coming out of downing st, especially around divergence, means its unlikely we'll meet the caveats the IMF report assumes.

I doubt Colburn has bothered to read the article and understand it in relation to the govt plans (or clear lack of them) and has just seen a headline that sounds good. Brexit in a nutshell I guess

[dermotdermot]

So, above what IQ should we allow people to vote? It doesn’t matter wHether you agree with his decision, or how he reached it, is irrelevant, his vote counts just as much as your’s. It could be that you have an IQ below the threshold and, therefore, wouldn’t be allowed to vote either. Ps; thanks for the lesson in spelling.

Don't mention it.

Thanks for your concern about my IQ. It is, in fact, way above the threshold. Where does yours rank?

[Dixie Normous]

Now that’s all done and dusted how about we stop all these posts as it’s got f all to do with football

[Damo]

#thick is trending on twitter
Mostly due to people like Rileybobs and Burnley Ace, angrily responding to jokes by explaining that we are still in the transitional period

[Rileybobs]

#thick is trending on twitter
Mostly due to people like Rileybobs and Burnley Ace, angrily responding to jokes by explaining that we are still in the transitional period

From the limited posts I’ve see on twitter tagged with #thick it seems to be clips of extremely unintelligent Brexiteers. Not sure how people like Burnley Ace and I, who haven’t responded to anything angrily, have got anything to do with it trending.

[Jakubclaret]

From the limited posts I’ve see on twitter tagged with #thick it seems to be clips of extremely unintelligent Brexiteers. Not sure how people like Burnley Ace and I, who haven’t responded to anything angrily, have got anything to do with it trending.

Contrary to the only singular post I've seen, talking about shooting yourself into the foot, the thicko video clip I watch earlier was a woman escaping a parking penalty fine & she was supposed to be stupid, I'm absolutely astounded DA chose to post that clip reinforcing a stance, it's highly debatable who's stupid & who's clever, I know where my money is going.

[Rileybobs]

Contrary to the only singular post I've seen, talking about shooting yourself into the foot, the thicko video clip I watch earlier was a woman escaping a parking penalty fine & she was supposed to be stupid, I'm absolutely astounded DA chose to post that clip reinforcing a stance, it's highly debatable who's stupid & who's clever, I know where my money is going.

I think somehow you have entirely misunderstood what you watched.

[Jakubclaret]

I think somehow you have entirely misunderstood what you watched.

Clear as crystal, the finishing line was just take the car & no money was exchanged prior, you couldn't make it up, the woman was supposed to be stupid but somehow she ended up dodging paying the fine & the car was waiting scot free.

[Rileybobs]

Clear as crystal, the finishing line was just take the car & no money was exchanged prior, you couldn't make it up, the woman was supposed to be stupid but somehow she ended up dodging paying the fine & the car was waiting scot free.

Yes, but she was still stupid.

[Claret-On-A-T-Rex]

[Jakubclaret]

Yes, but she was still stupid.

How exactly? She was on offer for paying a fine but she didn't, she played dumb chanced her arm & ended up fooling the guy, she was 1 smart cookie in my opinion.

[Rileybobs]

How exactly? She was on offer for paying a fine but she didn't, she played dumb chanced her arm & ended up fooling the guy, she was 1 smart cookie in my opinion.

She didn’t play dumb. She was dumb. It wasn’t real.

[Jakubclaret]

She didn’t play dumb. She was dumb. It wasn’t real.

Of course I know that, but portraying a dumb person & surely outfoxing a person & getting away with the crime isn't the best portrayal, fair enough had they cuffed her & led away to the cells that's fair game, but no this lady walked away without paying the fine & the car was waiting.

[Rileybobs]

Of course I know that, but portraying a dumb person & surely outfoxing a person & getting away with the crime isn't the best portrayal, fair enough had they cuffed her & led away to the cells that's fair game, but no this lady walked away without paying the fine & the car was waiting.

Yes - the entire point of the clip was showing that stupid people can be useful because they don’t know they’ve lost the argument.

[Jakubclaret]

Yes - the entire point of the clip was showing that stupid people can be useful because they don’t know they’ve lost the argument.

Well maybe I'm dumb & the cap fits, like I said the portrayal was a dumb lady but somehow the end result ended up with this lady walking away without paying the fine, in my view she was 1 smart lady by the end result, she escaped punishment & any expenses.

[Devils_Advocate]

Jakub thinks its the 'Parable of the Stupid Woman' first seen in The New Testament Matthew 13:3-8

[Burnley Ace]

#thick is trending on twitter
Mostly due to people like Rileybobs and Burnley Ace, angrily responding to jokes by explaining that we are still in the transitional period

Oh they were jokes? Given the general stupidity of many of your comments it’s almost impossible to differentiate. Unfortunately many really don’t understand what the translation period I presumed you were one of them. It’s not like we have had to spend the last 3 years trying to explain some really basic concepts to people like you.

[Claret-On-A-T-Rex]

#thick is trending on twitter
Mostly due to people like Rileybobs and Burnley Ace, angrily responding to jokes by explaining that we are still in the transitional period

I didn't know #thick was trending until you pointed it out.

It seems to be because they've interviewed some Brexiters or Leavers or whatever you want to call them, #thick is the most accurate.

[dsr]

So, above what IQ should we allow people to vote? It doesn’t matter wHether you agree with his decision, or how he reached it, is irrelevant, his vote counts just as much as your’s. It could be that you have an IQ below the threshold and, therefore, wouldn’t be allowed to vote either. Ps; thanks for the lesson in spelling.

The point is, Benny, that a whole lot of former Remainers (who are of course no longer remainers, because there are no remainers now - though there might be some rejoiners) determine intelligence by which way they voted. Their definition of "people who are stupid" means "people who voted for Brexit", and therefore if stupid people are excluded from voting then the Brexit votewould have been roundly defeated. By 100%, in fact.

And the worst of it is, they don't see this as an affront to democracy. There are people out there who quite genuinely don't see that overturning the referendum result would have been an affront to democracy. They say we have a parliamentary sovereignty and the MPs should decide. But then when the MPs decide to have a referendum, they say that the MPs are wrong and we shouldn't have a referendum because in a parliamentary sovereignty the MPs shouldn't decide that. (Well, mostly they said that after the result went the wrong way.) So they don't like referendums because they're anti-democratic, and they don't like parliamentary sovereignty because it's anti-democratic, and in fact the obvious conclusion is that they don't like democracy. Not because it's anti-democratic, but because it allows them to be overruled by people who hold the "wrong" opinion.

[ksrclaret]

The point is, Benny, that a whole lot of former Remainers (who are of course no longer remainers, because there are no remainers now - though there might be some rejoiners) determine intelligence by which way they voted. Their definition of "people who are stupid" means "people who voted for Brexit", and therefore if stupid people are excluded from voting then the Brexit votewould have been roundly defeated. By 100%, in fact.

And the worst of it is, they don't see this as an affront to democracy. There are people out there who quite genuinely don't see that overturning the referendum result would have been an affront to democracy. They say we have a parliamentary sovereignty and the MPs should decide. But then when the MPs decide to have a referendum, they say that the MPs are wrong and we shouldn't have a referendum because in a parliamentary sovereignty the MPs shouldn't decide that. (Well, mostly they said that after the result went the wrong way.) So they don't like referendums because they're anti-democratic, and they don't like parliamentary sovereignty because it's anti-democratic, and in fact the obvious conclusion is that they don't like democracy. Not because it's anti-democratic, but because it allows them to be overruled by people who hold the "wrong" opinion.

I think people have just had enough of experts haven't they dsr.

Or rather, just the experts who hold the "wrong opinion". Experts who hold the right opinion are fine aren't they dsr.

[dsr]

I think people have just had enough of experts haven't they dsr.

Or rather, just the experts who hold the "wrong opinion". Experts who hold the right opinion are fine aren't they dsr.

You can either let the "experts" decide, or you can have democracy. You can't have both. The only expert in the question "do you want to be in the EU" is the person filling in the voting slip. No expert can tell me what I want, no expert can tell you what you want.

These people that don't like referendums because it leads to Brexit, and that don't like parliamentary sovereignty because it leads to referendums - what system of government would they put in place that is designed to stop the public having their say, but could still be called democracy? Or would they say sod it, we don't want democracy anyway?

[ksrclaret]

You can either let the "experts" decide, or you can have democracy. You can't have both. The only expert in the question "do you want to be in the EU" is the person filling in the voting slip. No expert can tell me what I want, no expert can tell you what you want.

These people that don't like referendums because it leads to Brexit, and that don't like parliamentary sovereignty because it leads to referendums - what system of government would they put in place that is designed to stop the public having their say, but could still be called democracy? Or would they say sod it, we don't want democracy anyway?

Just pointing out that it's pointless to criticise people for liking things that agree with their beliefs, and not liking things that contradict their beliefs.

Everyone does it, and the example of the side of the 'brexiters' is their disregard for experts who say things they don't like, followed by their attentiveness to experts who say things they do like.

[dsr]

Just pointing out that it's pointless to criticise people for liking things that agree with their beliefs, and not liking things that contradict their beliefs.

Everyone does it, and the example of the side of the 'brexiters' is their disregard for experts who say things they don't like, followed by their attentiveness to experts who say things they do like.

Specifically what I am criticising is people who are opposed to democracy. I don't think that is ever pointless.

[ksrclaret]

Specifically what I am criticising is people who are opposed to democracy. I don't think that is ever pointless.

They opposed the result of one democratic question, not democracy as a principle. I think it's worth trying to appreciate that small but not insignificant difference.

I opposed the result of the general election the other month. I don't want a dictator to rule over us though.

[dsr]

They opposed the result of one democratic question, not democracy as a principle. I think it's worth trying to appreciate that small but not insignificant difference.

I opposed the result of the general election the other month. I don't want a dictator to rule over us though.

You're confusing "disapproved of" and "opposed". If you don't like the result but you accept it, that's democracy. If you don't like the result so you work to see that the result is ignored, that is not democracy.

It isn't possible to be a democrat if you won't accept a democratic vote. If you only support democracy when it gets the right result, then you aren't supporting democracy. Democracy is all or nothing.

[ksrclaret]

You're confusing "disapproved of" and "opposed". If you don't like the result but you accept it, that's democracy. If you don't like the result so you work to see that the result is ignored, that is not democracy.

It isn't possible to be a democrat if you won't accept a democratic vote. If you only support democracy when it gets the right result, then you aren't supporting democracy. Democracy is all or nothing.

I can certainly see why you think that, and indeed have some sympathy for your view here.

I think if you'd have said to someone like Jo Swinson though, who was one of the few who opposed the result and wanted it overturned, that you can cancel Brexit but must then cancel all forms of democracy and accept a dictatorship, she would have opted for Brexit. It wasn't a legally binding result at the time, and I'm not sure how much democracy as we know it was ever really under threat.

[Vintage Claret]

Must admit as a 'remoaner' I put my x in the wrong box 3 and a half years ago, I've been giddy today celebrating all the sovereignty and control I never realized was missing from my life for the past 50 years.

[Damo]

I didn't know #thick was trending until you pointed it out.

It seems to be because they've interviewed some Brexiters or Leavers or whatever you want to call them, #thick is the most accurate.

Yes, I saw one where they interviewed a disabled guy who voted to leave.
https://twitter.com/MarieAnnUK/status/1 ... 19938?s=19
I'm not sure all the thickos are on the same side if I'm honest

[Damo]

Oh they were jokes? Given the general stupidity of many of your comments it’s almost impossible to differentiate. Unfortunately many really don’t understand what the translation period I presumed you were one of them. It’s not like we have had to spend the last 3 years trying to explain some really basic concepts to people like you.

People like me?
What? All 17.4 million of us?