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Ian Moore

Post by LowtonClaret » Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:06 pm

Was he our first million pound player?

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by dpinsussex » Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:07 pm

From memory yes. Stand to be corrected

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by jedi_master » Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:08 pm

He was indeed.

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:09 pm

Yes he was

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by Giftonsnoidea » Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:15 pm

Sold for 50k when he left?

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by TVC15 » Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:24 pm

Giftonsnoidea wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:15 pm
Sold for 50k when he left?
I still count that £50k we received from Leeds (?) as one of the best deals we ever got....I’d have been happy with a fiver at the time.
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Re: Ian Moore

Post by Giftonsnoidea » Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:30 pm

TVC15 wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:24 pm
I still count that £50k we received from Leeds (?) as one of the best deals we ever got....I’d have been happy with a fiver at the time.
He was bloody awful, I think ternents worst buy by a mile

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by karatekid » Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:35 pm

I quite liked Ian Moore. 👍

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:37 pm

Dog chasing a balloon, felt for him though because there was a lot of pressure on him due to the fee and he was simply a limited footballer that worked his socks off

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by Buxtonclaret » Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:39 pm

Safe to say, most would reckon he didn't turn out to be the player we'd hoped.
Was it Tranmere his dad managed?

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:40 pm

Buxtonclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:39 pm
Safe to say, most would reckon he didn't turn out to be the player we'd hoped.
Was it Tranmere his dad managed?
Yeah was it Ronnie?

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by ElectroClaret » Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:41 pm

Awful striker.
Remember one game on Deepdale (I think) where the ball popped up for him in front of goal with the keeper sprawled on the floor. He had all the goal to aim at, basically just could have let it bounce in off his head, incredibly he hit the goalie from a yard out.
Dog chasing a balloon is right.

Crap.
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Re: Ian Moore

Post by Murger » Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:43 pm

Such a poor player. Ran a lot, nothing more. The £50k we got for him was the sale of the century.

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:44 pm

TVC15 wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:24 pm
I still count that £50k we received from Leeds (?) as one of the best deals we ever got....I’d have been happy with a fiver at the time.
That and having Southamptons pants down for Wayne Thomas equally amazing.
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Re: Ian Moore

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:50 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:44 pm
That and having Southamptons pants down for Wayne Thomas equally amazing.
Did his cruciate a week later I think as well

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by edison » Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:50 pm

Murger wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:43 pm
Such a poor player. Ran a lot, nothing more. The £50k we got for him was the sale of the century.
Indeed, I was amazed we got money for him. Still makes me smile that we did.

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by the_fat_shearer » Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:51 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:44 pm
That and having Southamptons pants down for Wayne Thomas equally amazing.

Bang on. I saw the Moore £50K as great business. I have never been so baffled by any transfer business as the Saints offer for Thomas. When he started, he was averaging a red card every 6 games after 24 games if I remember correctly.

The greatest shame about the Moore transfer was that it seemed that Ternent felt the pressure of the big fee to play him. Payton was relegated to the bench and barely seemed to start many more games again.

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by Buxtonclaret » Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:53 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:40 pm
Yeah was it Ronnie?
Yep. Think that's the one.
Not sure if he ended up playing for his dad somewhere.

Might be wrong, but seem to remember him crowing about moving to a 'Big' club when he left.
Understated, as everyone knows Weeds are the biggest club in the world.

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by Damo » Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:55 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:44 pm
That and having Southamptons pants down for Wayne Thomas equally amazing.
Fairly sure this transfer was the one that gave birth to the quote "I'll drive him there myself"
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Re: Ian Moore

Post by edison » Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:55 pm

He ended up at Tranmere when his dad was there

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by IanMcL » Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:56 pm

First million we paid but not the first 'million pound player'.
We had Steve Daley for a time.

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by edison » Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:57 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:50 pm
Did his cruciate a week later I think as well
He did his cruciate with us, while playing during a red card appeal. But yes, what an amazing a bit of business

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by SammyBoy » Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:59 pm

I remember being buzzing as a 10 year old when I heard we’d spent a million quid on a player, that was as good as it got though with Ian Moore.

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by edison » Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:02 pm

Was Blake the second £1 million signing or was there anyone between him and Moore?

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by elwaclaret » Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:07 pm

Think the idea was to fav Moore feeding off a big man.. There was the On-ITV Digital blowup soon after that left the club in dire straights so it never happened. Think Crouchy was lined up to be that partner by Stan later, but the riots put paid to Crouchy coming and going to Pompey(?) instead.

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by Blackrod » Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:08 pm

Yet he made nearly 200 appearances for us and played for England U21s. We’ve had much better since but we’ve also had far far worse. ( D Jones mk1 and P Stewart always spring to mind).

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:10 pm

Damo wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:55 pm
Fairly sure this transfer was the one that gave birth to the quote "I'll drive him there myself"
Fair play to whoever took the call and managed to keep it together.
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Re: Ian Moore

Post by Woodleyclaret » Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:15 pm

Stans not playing Andy Payton was spiteful and personal
Andy had problems and watching others with less ability getting game time didnt help him deal with these.

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by Inchy » Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:18 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:07 pm
Think the idea was to fav Moore feeding off a big man.. There was the On-ITV Digital blowup soon after that left the club in dire straights so it never happened. Think Crouchy was lined up to be that partner by Stan later, but the riots put paid to Crouchy coming and going to Pompey(?) instead.


The Crouchy story comes from Stans book and it’s utter ********.

For a start it states Crouchys wife didn’t want to come to Burnley. He wasn’t even married

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by TVC15 » Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:20 pm

Blackrod wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:08 pm
Yet he made nearly 200 appearances for us and played for England U21s. We’ve had much better since but we’ve also had far far worse. ( D Jones mk1 and P Stewart always spring to mind).
Presumably that was when he was at Stockport where admittedly he did look pretty decent. His 4 years at Burnley though he was mostly awful - the fact he made so many appearances for us was partly down to the fee and Stan’s stubbornness and also because we were not very good....though Andy Payton was ten times the player in every respect.
Paul Stewart was only here for a few months on loan - and was a far better player than Moore could dream of - but just not when he played for us....and Dave Jones was here for what ?...weeks ?....but he was worse than Moore I’ll give you that !!

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by fidelcastro » Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:23 pm

Was it Sam Ellis who said that Moore was guaranteed to get you 15 goals a season?

He needed to do his research... Moore had never managed that in his career! :lol:

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by Blackrod » Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:26 pm

He wasn’t the sharpest tool in the box. Taking on your wife’s name to make a double barreled one probably confirms this.

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by Yeovil1951 » Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:28 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:56 pm
First million we paid but not the first 'million pound player'.
We had Steve Daley for a time.
Kevin Reeves also about the same time both John Bond signings

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by the_fat_shearer » Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:43 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:07 pm
Think the idea was to fav Moore feeding off a big man.. There was the On-ITV Digital blowup soon after that left the club in dire straights so it never happened. Think Crouchy was lined up to be that partner by Stan later, but the riots put paid to Crouchy coming and going to Pompey(?) instead.
The idea was to have him feeding off a big man - He played loads with Gareth Taylor!

I remember one game at home when evey time Taylor won a flick on, Moore was running in the opposite direction. Taylor was flicking them into good areas and Moore was nowhere to be seen. Payton came on later in the game and literally his first touch was getting on the end of a Taylor flick on. The difference in football intelligence between the two was gigantic.

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by k90bfc » Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:06 pm

How he was first choice instead of Andy Payton,was beyond belief,Andy must have felt devastated,the fans couldnt believe it,the team and results suffered,denied his 200,Goals tally,Golden Boot Award still on display at Turf Moor,he was hard done by,felt sorry for him at the time.

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by elwaclaret » Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:07 pm

the_fat_shearer wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:43 pm
The idea was to have him feeding off a big man - He played loads with Gareth Taylor!

I remember one game at home when evey time Taylor won a flick on, Moore was running in the opposite direction. Taylor was flicking them into good areas and Moore was nowhere to be seen. Payton came on later in the game and literally his first touch was getting on the end of a Taylor flick on. The difference in football intelligence between the two was gigantic.
Gareth Taylor was a great forward for us but he was a goal scorer not provider. Think you are looking back with a slight tint.... Blakey was absolute shite when he first played “like he was wearing diving boots” (turned out he was injured). it was months before we saw anything from Blake. I maintain we never got to saw the plan for Ian Moore due to ITV digital collapse shortly after he signed

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by elwaclaret » Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:12 pm

Inchy wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:18 pm
The Crouchy story comes from Stans book and it’s utter ********.

For a start it states Crouchys wife didn’t want to come to Burnley. He wasn’t even married
Might have been but it wasshite delivered first hand by the manager of Burnley Football Club.As for not being married Stan would hardly be the first to say wife to cover girlfriend. That is done all the time... I’ve done it twice today with my ‘wife’ when I’m nearly 10 years divorced, and am talking about a new model. Not important.

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:13 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:07 pm
I maintain we never got to saw the plan for Ian Moore due to ITV digital collapse shortly after he signed
ITV Digital hadn't even started, let alone collapsed, when we signed Moore.

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by Blackburn_Claret » Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:16 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:13 pm
ITV Digital hadn't even started, let alone collapsed, when we signed Moore.


Are you sure about that CT?

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by elwaclaret » Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:19 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:13 pm
ITV Digital hadn't even started, let alone collapsed, when we signed Moore.
Might. It have started but the windfall was being banked on. Burnley were not even sniffing around that sort of menu before the Digital deal promised a fortune to my memory. It’s collapse certainly caused all team building plans to stop.

Like I say from memory, if I’m out fair enough. I do enough digging through archives without doing it for fun, even when the answers are in the loft.

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by Bosscat » Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:21 pm

Blackburn_Claret wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:16 pm
Are you sure about that CT?
I would say CT is spot on the following from wikipedia

ITV digital 2001 Moore signed in 2000


ITV Digital was a British digital terrestrial television broadcaster which launched a pay-TV service on the world's first digital terrestrial television network. Its main shareholders were Carlton Communications plc and Granada plc, owners of two franchises of the ITV network. Starting as ONdigital in 1998, the service was re-branded as ITV Digital in July 2001. Low audience figures, piracy issues and an ultimately unaffordable multi-million pound deal with the Football League led to the broadcaster suffering massive losses, forcing it to enter administration in March 2002.

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by BOYSIE31 » Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:23 pm

Amazing what we could spend in the old days - just imagine if we got £120 million a year what we could do - oh wait

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by fidelcastro » Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:24 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:23 pm
Amazing what we could spend in the old days - just imagine if we got £120 million a year what we could do - oh wait
Yes, we spend a darn sight more now. What's your point?

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by Blackburn_Claret » Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:25 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:21 pm
I would say CT is spot on the following from wikipedia

ITV digital 2001 Moore signed in 2000


ITV Digital was a British digital terrestrial television broadcaster which launched a pay-TV service on the world's first digital terrestrial television network. Its main shareholders were Carlton Communications plc and Granada plc, owners of two franchises of the ITV network. Starting as ONdigital in 1998, the service was re-branded as ITV Digital in July 2001. Low audience figures, piracy issues and an ultimately unaffordable multi-million pound deal with the Football League led to the broadcaster suffering massive losses, forcing it to enter administration in March 2002.

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by Winstonswhite » Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:26 pm

It was known as On Digital and they signed a deal with the football league in June 2000. Moore signed in a November 2000

We spent money we hadn’t yet received- Kilby probably learnt a big lesson from it.

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:37 pm

Blackburn_Claret wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:16 pm
Are you sure about that CT?
Certain

Moore signed in 2000 and ITV Digital season was 2001/02.
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Re: Ian Moore

Post by ksrclaret » Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:42 pm

Winstonswhite wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:26 pm
It was known as On Digital and they signed a deal with the football league in June 2000. Moore signed in a November 2000

We spent money we hadn’t yet received- Kilby probably learnt a big lesson from it.
Absolutely. The phrase 'we won't bet the ranch' appeared soon after and lingered for years.

In truth we did very well (and got lucky) that we came through that decade unscathed.

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by the_fat_shearer » Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:57 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:07 pm
Gareth Taylor was a great forward for us but he was a goal scorer not provider. Think you are looking back with a slight tint.... Blakey was absolute shite when he first played “like he was wearing diving boots” (turned out he was injured). it was months before we saw anything from Blake. I maintain we never got to saw the plan for Ian Moore due to ITV digital collapse shortly after he signed
Maybe Taylor was a good goalscorer but I wasn't looking back through a slight tint, it is a genuine memory from a game I was talking about - I was sat in the Jimmy Mac Upper at the time.

But as for Moore in general, he seemed to be famous for his pace but I don't recall him outpacing many people.

I think that he was with us long enough to have time to prove himself. It was a shame for all parties that it wasn't so fruitful.

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by Burnleyareback2 » Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:15 pm

A few premier league “spoilt” fans on this thread. Signing an England U18 & U21 striker was quite a big deal for Burnley at the time. He was a record signing and really marked the beginning of better times again for Burnley.

I also think he scored about 36 more goals for Burnley that the ballon d’or Vydra that’s so many people rave about.

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Re: Ian Moore

Post by claretblue » Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:25 pm

Ian Moore used to play for Forest and Man Utd
...but that’s another story! ;)

:D

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