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Emily Thornberry

Post by tim_noone » Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:27 pm

Bleating Like a little Lamb...Vote for me..Vote for me..and Looking more like Mrs Bouquet everytime I see her.

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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by LeadBelly » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:16 pm

Epitomizes a lot of what's wrong with the current Labour regime.
Islington dweller, married to a fellow barrister who is nowadays Lord Nugee (so she's a genuine Lady).
Owns a property portfolio worth £4.6 million (including one bought from a housing association and rented out).

Keep the red flag flying.
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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by tim_noone » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:37 pm

publicly slating her own people she'll go far I'm sure.

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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by thomaspaine » Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:20 pm

tim_noone wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:27 pm
Bleating Like a little Lamb...Vote for me..Vote for me..and Looking more like Mrs Bouquet everytime I see her.
Could be worse.... She could be a Tory.
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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by Blackrod » Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:42 pm

LeadBelly wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:16 pm
Epitomizes a lot of what's wrong with the current Labour regime.
Islington dweller, married to a fellow barrister who is nowadays Lord Nugee (so she's a genuine Lady).
Owns a property portfolio worth £4.6 million (including one bought from a housing association and rented out).

Keep the red flag flying.
One extreme to the other. If they found someone the public can relate to that might be a good start.

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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by tim_noone » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:17 pm

thomaspaine wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:20 pm
Could be worse.... She could be a Tory.
You mean she isn't ? :shock:

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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by Bosscat » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:26 pm

A lovely lady and I wish her well on her quest to lead the Labour Party...

I am sure she identifies brilliantly with grass roots Labour supporters...

Especially having a Lord as a hubby wubby and a 4.6 Million property portfolio :D

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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by tim_noone » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:35 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:26 pm
A lovely lady and I wish her well on her quest to lead the Labour Party...

I am sure she identifies brilliantly with grass roots Labour supporters...

Especially having a Lord as a hubby wubby and a 4.6 Million property portfolio :D
Based on your Many political Posts.clarets4me what's your view on the Ladies Leadership Qualities :D

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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by Bosscat » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:37 pm

tim_noone wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:35 pm
Based on your Many political Posts.clarets4me what's your view on the Ladies Leadership Qualities :D
Clarets4me ????? Jesus wept Tim :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by tim_noone » Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:11 am

Bosscat wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:37 pm
Clarets4me ????? Jesus wept Tim :lol: :lol: :lol:
She knows I'm being mischievous. :D Edited.

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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by dsr » Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:33 am

Bosscat wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:26 pm
A lovely lady and I wish her well on her quest to lead the Labour Party...

I am sure she identifies brilliantly with grass roots Labour supporters...

Especially having a Lord as a hubby wubby and a 4.6 Million property portfolio :D
I don't think that's relevant at all, though I dare say many members of the Labour party would. But they need to think on - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson didn't get the northern working class to vote for him because they thought he was an impoverished ordinary bloke.

This "working class people will vote for us because they're working class" stuff is nonsense. "Working class" people are aspirational individuals and will vote for who they think best meets their aspirations. Wealth and titles won't disqualify someone if they come across as the right sort.
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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by Clarets4me » Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:14 am

Bosscat wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:26 pm
A lovely lady and I wish her well on her quest to lead the Labour Party ... I am sure she identifies brilliantly with grass roots Labour supporters...
Especially having a Lord as a hubby wubby and a 4.6 Million property portfolio :D
I fear Lady Nugee lacks the "common touch ", the ability to relate to us ordinary folk. This is despite her growing up in abject poverty with her mother being a full time teacher and her father lecturing at the London School of Economics, as well as working for the Guardian and practising as a human rights lawyer ...

I suspect Mr Starmer will be the next Labour leader, with Angela Raynor as his deputy ...

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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by Rowls » Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:05 am

dsr wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:33 am
I don't think that's relevant at all, though I dare say many members of the Labour party would. But they need to think on - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson didn't get the northern working class to vote for him because they thought he was an impoverished ordinary bloke.

This "working class people will vote for us because they're working class" stuff is nonsense. "Working class" people are aspirational individuals and will vote for who they think best meets their aspirations. Wealth and titles won't disqualify someone if they come across as the right sort.
You're quite right dsr - this shouldn't really matter one jot but it does to an awful lot of people.

What will matter though is the fact that she is a condescending snob who dislikes the working class and lives in a tiny metropolitan bubble.

Sadly, from a mischeivous Conservative point of view, she never had a chance from the outset but it didn't get in the way of her standing. She has a nasty habit of not letting the realities of the world impinge upon her brand of politics.

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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by gawthorpe_view » Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:24 am

thomaspaine wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:20 pm
Could be worse.... She could be a Tory.
We wouldn't have her.

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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by NewClaret » Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:01 am

gawthorpe_view wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:24 am
We wouldn't have her.
Not rich enough :lol: :lol:

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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by Bosscat » Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:28 am

dsr wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:33 am
I don't think that's relevant at all, though I dare say many members of the Labour party would. But they need to think on - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson didn't get the northern working class to vote for him because they thought he was an impoverished ordinary bloke.

This "working class people will vote for us because they're working class" stuff is nonsense. "Working class" people are aspirational individuals and will vote for who they think best meets their aspirations. Wealth and titles won't disqualify someone if they come across as the right sort.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by Devils_Advocate » Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:01 am

Born and raised in Guildford. Parents teachers. Parents split when she was at a young age and her mum brought up her and her two brothers alone. Was quite poor relying on free school meals and food parcels. Struggled at school not passing her 11 plus. Worked as a cleaner and barmaid to help fund herself resitting her o-levels and taking her A-levels. Went on to study Law and become a successful lawyer specialising on Human Rights. Married a fellow barrister who was from a more privileged background who nevertheless was very successful to the point he was Knighted and received his title.

Have your own personal opinions of how you find her but if Labour is about working class aspirational people who through hard work and determination want to have the opportunity to make a better life for them and their family then Emily Thornberry seems a pretty good example to me
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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by randomclaret2 » Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:24 am

Her father was an International Lawyer and assistant General Secretary of the UN

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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by houseboy » Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:30 am

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:01 am
Born and raised in Guildford. Parents teachers. Parents split when she was at a young age and her mum brought up her and her two brothers alone. Was quite poor relying on free school meals and food parcels. Struggled at school not passing her 11 plus. Worked as a cleaner and barmaid to help fund herself resitting her o-levels and taking her A-levels. Went on to study Law and become a successful lawyer specialising on Human Rights. Married a fellow barrister who was from a more privileged background who nevertheless was very successful to the point he was Knighted and received his title.

Have your own personal opinions of how you find her but if Labour is about working class aspirational people who through hard work and determination want to have the opportunity to make a better life for them and their family then Emily Thornberry seems a pretty good example to me
Great post DA and very true. One of my all time Labour 'heroes' was one Anthony Wedgewood Benn, who came from a very priviledged background, renounced his peerage and, as Tony Benn, served the Labour party magnificently for years. I was fortunate enought to see him speak live once and a better orator you could not wish for. Intelligent and committed to the cause he was a credit to the Labour party. Many thought him too left wing but to this young Labour party member (and even to this day) he was the best Labour leader we NEVER had.
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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by randomclaret2 » Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:32 am

What were his views on the EU ?

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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by LeadBelly » Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:55 am

TB's view on the EU are outlined (in a couple of minutes) here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0wFii8klNg

This debate was 2013 around a year before he passed.

In short: he liked the idea of European friendship/co-operation after the conflict of the war years but doesnt like the way the EU is developing into "an Empire"
He stresses that he's hostile to foreigners but in favour of democracy (and doesnt see the EU as democratic).

Much in line with my own views.

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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by BurnleyFC » Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:02 am

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:01 am
Born and raised in Guildford. Parents teachers. Parents split when she was at a young age and her mum brought up her and her two brothers alone. Was quite poor relying on free school meals and food parcels. Struggled at school not passing her 11 plus. Worked as a cleaner and barmaid to help fund herself resitting her o-levels and taking her A-levels. Went on to study Law and become a successful lawyer specialising on Human Rights. Married a fellow barrister who was from a more privileged background who nevertheless was very successful to the point he was Knighted and received his title.

Have your own personal opinions of how you find her but if Labour is about working class aspirational people who through hard work and determination want to have the opportunity to make a better life for them and their family then Emily Thornberry seems a pretty good example to me
And yet she’s still a complete and utter bellend.
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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by elwaclaret » Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:09 am

I can see why she has been a successful barrister.... she presents herself with an air of someone who has it worked out.
.... unfortunately, believing as passionately as she does, she cannot see the errors in her formula. So it is perhaps just as well she hasn’t a snowball in hell’s chance.

After saying that I have not heard too much from the others to suggest a great or even competent leader for Labour beckons.

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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by Bosscat » Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:31 am

She should hyphenate her name to
Emily Thorn-Berry
to nick potential voters from
Rebecca Long-Bailey

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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by tim_noone » Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:38 am

BurnleyFC wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:02 am
And yet she’s still a complete and utter bellend.
:lol:

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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by Stayingup » Fri Feb 07, 2020 11:12 am

Basically it would be swapping North Islington MP for South Islingtons, I detest white van men who are patriotic Brits, MP. Bring it on. She’s got my vote.

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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by Bosscat » Fri Feb 07, 2020 11:25 am

Stayingup wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 11:12 am
Basically it would be swapping North Islington MP for South Islingtons, I detest white van men who are patriotic Brits, MP. Bring it on. She’s got my vote.
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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by Clarets4me » Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:17 pm

houseboy wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:30 am
Great post DA and very true. One of my all time Labour 'heroes' was one Anthony Wedgewood Benn, who came from a very priviledged background, renounced his peerage and, as Tony Benn, served the Labour party magnificently for years. I was fortunate enought to see him speak live once and a better orator you could not wish for. Intelligent and committed to the cause he was a credit to the Labour party. Many thought him too left wing but to this young Labour party member (and even to this day) he was the best Labour leader we NEVER had.
In 2001, a new young Labour MP was at a reception at the House of Commons, and spied Tony Benn ( her hero ), and approached him from behind to introduce herself. As he turned round, she was horrified to see that he was in deep conversation with Lady Thatcher ! She hesitantly introduced herself, and, ever polite, he said, " My dear, this is Margaret ". Lady Thatcher warmly congratulated her on her success, and the new MP laughed and said " I didn't expect to see you two together, after all your disagreements ! " ... They both laughed and Lady Thatcher put her hand on her arm, " It's always lovely to see Tony, he's a gentleman, and what we certainly do agree about, is Europe " !!

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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by houseboy » Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:58 pm

Clarets4me wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:17 pm
In 2001, a new young Labour MP was at a reception at the House of Commons, and spied Tony Benn ( her hero ), and approached him from behind to introduce herself. As he turned round, she was horrified to see that he was in deep conversation with Lady Thatcher ! She hesitantly introduced herself, and, ever polite, he said, " My dear, this is Margaret ". Lady Thatcher warmly congratulated her on her success, and the new MP laughed and said " I didn't expect to see you two together, after all your disagreements ! " ... They both laughed and Lady Thatcher put her hand on her arm, " It's always lovely to see Tony, he's a gentleman, and what we certainly do agree about, is Europe " !!
Nice story. A couple of quotes from the great man on Europe:

"My view of the EU has always been not that I am hostile to foreigners but I am in favour of democracy. I think they are building an empire and want us to be part of that empire, and I don't want that." On leaving the European Community

"When I saw how the European Union was developing, it was very obvious what they had in mind was not democratic. In Britain, you vote for a government so the government has to listen to you, and if you don't like it you can change it." On democracy in Europe

By pure chance my views entirely.
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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by houseboy » Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:00 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:09 am
I can see why she has been a successful barrister.... she presents herself with an air of someone who has it worked out.
.... unfortunately, believing as passionately as she does, she cannot see the errors in her formula. So it is perhaps just as well she hasn’t a snowball in hell’s chance.

After saying that I have not heard too much from the others to suggest a great or even competent leader for Labour beckons.
And you can? ;) ;)

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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by Devils_Advocate » Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:05 pm

houseboy wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:58 pm
Nice story. A couple of quotes from the great man on Europe:

"My view of the EU has always been not that I am hostile to foreigners but I am in favour of democracy. I think they are building an empire and want us to be part of that empire, and I don't want that." On leaving the European Community

"When I saw how the European Union was developing, it was very obvious what they had in mind was not democratic. In Britain, you vote for a government so the government has to listen to you, and if you don't like it you can change it." On democracy in Europe

By pure chance my views entirely.
And Tony Benn would be sick to the stomach with the divisive and deceitful way in which the leave campaign has operated and the hostility it has created towards foreigners.

Whist he may be a leaver he would not be a Brexiteer and would be much more aligned to the Labour leave position around keeping close ties with Europe rather than sailing towards isolationism
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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by jollyjack » Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:05 pm

"When I saw how the European Union was developing, it was very obvious what they had in mind was not democratic. In Britain, you vote for a government so the government has to listen to you, and if you don't like it you can change it."
It might seem the more people vote for a government, the less they feel they have to listen to as you have given them carte blanche for 5 years to do what they want, especially as Manifestos are misleading and disinformative. They might lose 5-15 seats through by-elections through the term but no opposition, especially one as disastrous as the current one, can hold their feet to the flame over any single issue.

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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by houseboy » Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:26 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:05 pm
And Tony Benn would be sick to the stomach with the divisive and deceitful way in which the leave campaign has operated and the hostility it has created towards foreigners.

Whist he may be a leaver he would not be a Brexiteer and would be much more aligned to the Labour leave position around keeping close ties with Europe rather than sailing towards isolationism
He may well have been DA. I just hope that now we can all pull together to make it work, it would be so sad if some remainers were to try to make it fail just for a political agenda. Even as a committed leaver I have hated the way it has torn the nation apart.

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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by houseboy » Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:31 pm

jollyjack wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:05 pm
It might seem the more people vote for a government, the less they feel they have to listen to as you have given them carte blanche for 5 years to do what they want, especially as Manifestos are misleading and disinformative. They might lose 5-15 seats through by-elections through the term but no opposition, especially one as disastrous as the current one, can hold their feet to the flame over any single issue.
True but ultimately they would pay the price. The problem with the EU is that the elections are a bit of a farce as nothing changes whatever the result. And the president just 'emerges' as if from nowhere, no vote is given to the public on that. The EU alas is a very undemocratic organisation and that is one of the main reasons I and many others voted to leave.

Anyway enough of this, we don't want yet another Brexit thread.

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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by Devils_Advocate » Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:50 pm

houseboy wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:26 pm
He may well have been DA. I just hope that now we can all pull together to make it work, it would be so sad if some remainers were to try to make it fail just for a political agenda. Even as a committed leaver I have hated the way it has torn the nation apart.
Ignoring all the claptrap posted on here and the joking around (it is just a footy messageboard) then I think there is an issue on the leave side that when remain people try to hold our politicians to account and face up to facts there is a view that we are trying to make it fail.

If we are going to all come together then the misinformation and the lies need to stop and we need to stop blaming remainers, the EU, Labour etc and take accountability for the decision to leave because until we face up to reality together we cannot unite and try to make the best of it

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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by Firthy » Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:40 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:26 pm
A lovely lady and I wish her well on her quest to lead the Labour Party...

I am sure she identifies brilliantly with grass roots Labour supporters...

Especially having a Lord as a hubby wubby and a 4.6 Million property portfolio :D
Maybe she should share some of her wealth with the poor like Corbyn said.

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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by Clarets4me » Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:55 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:05 pm
Whist he may be a leaver he would not be a Brexiteer and would be much more aligned to the Labour leave position around keeping close ties with Europe rather than sailing towards isolationism
A quote from a Labour MP about the original 6 EEC members ..... " This Country has spent much blood and treasury rescuing four of them from the other two, I never see why we should go crawling to them ! " ( Clem Attlee ).
By the way, " Devil's Advocate " is to be congratulated, he might just be the only person in the UK who understood Labour's Leave position at the last election .. ;)

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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by IanMcL » Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:57 pm

'Especially having a Lord as a hubby wubby and a 4.6 Million property portfolio'

Small fry compared to many tory politicians, who exploit their status throughout their stat in Parliament.

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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by KateR » Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:23 pm

so she hasn't very long left now has she in regard to going through, she must be bitterly disappointed, even if she manages to go through, obviously not flavor of the month.

I know so little in regard to the other candidates but will watch and listen to see how it all unfolds.

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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by Stayingup » Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:58 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:05 pm
And Tony Benn would be sick to the stomach with the divisive and deceitful way in which the leave campaign has operated and the hostility it has created towards foreigners.

Whist he may be a leaver he would not be a Brexiteer and would be much more aligned to the Labour leave position around keeping close ties with Europe rather than sailing towards isolationism
I read only today that the whole Brexit campaign has made some people ill.

Remainers have a lot to answer for in trying to to overtrun a democratic vote and calling genuine intelligent and caring people thick and racist. Disgusting how many have behaved. No wonder the last election resulted in a massive majority for Jiohnson. Calling people thick and racist etc., is hardly the way to win back voters. No its them who were thick
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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by Devils_Advocate » Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:01 pm

Clarets4me wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:55 pm
A quote from a Labour MP about the original 6 EEC members ..... " This Country has spent much blood and treasury rescuing four of them from the other two, I never see why we should go crawling to them ! " ( Clem Attlee ).
By the way, " Devil's Advocate " is to be congratulated, he might just be the only person in the UK who understood Labour's Leave position at the last election .. ;)
When I was talking about Labours leave position it wasn't in relation to their election position but more about the general view of the pro-leave MPs within the Labour party.

Wasn't an easy one to word quickly so expected it to be picked up more in relation to their confirmatory referendum position.

If anyone thinks Benn would have been in support of the way Gove, Johnson, Farage, Cummings et al have managed this sh*tstorm then you have no idea about the mans views and principles. Plus the EU and Brexit isn't the be-all and end-all of politics in this country and beyond

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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by Devils_Advocate » Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:05 pm

Stayingup wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:58 pm
I read only today that the whole Brexit campaign has made some people ill.

Remainers have a lot to answer for in trying to to overtrun a democratic vote and calling genuine intelligent and caring people thick and racist. Disgusting how many have behaved. No wonder the last election resulted in a massive majority for Jiohnson. Calling people thick and racist etc., is hardly the way to win back voters. No its them who were thick
Seen just as much name calling and mud slinging from the Brexit lot so dont get all high and mighty. Plus the lies and propaganda from project leave has been the main thing that has divided this country and when you see fools like you who still think Russia is in Cahoots with Corbyn and the left then its hard not to call people thick. Surely calling something as you see it rather than protecting some snowflakes feeling is something as a right winger you should be in support of - unless your a complete hypocrite that is

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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by houseboy » Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:08 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:50 pm
Ignoring all the claptrap posted on here and the joking around (it is just a footy messageboard) then I think there is an issue on the leave side that when remain people try to hold our politicians to account and face up to facts there is a view that we are trying to make it fail.

If we are going to all come together then the misinformation and the lies need to stop and we need to stop blaming remainers, the EU, Labour etc and take accountability for the decision to leave because until we face up to reality together we cannot unite and try to make the best of it
I just think there has been too much garbage from both sides bud. We could argue all day and no end would come of it because all the arguments and beliefs are now so entrenched no-one is going to give on their position. My view on the remain side possibly wanting (only in extreme cases) to scuttle Brexit is just down to being a natural cynic, nothing more. When the Nos lost back in the 70s we accepted it gracefully and got on with it, I just hope the remain side now do the same. However we do live in different times now. Who knows mate - I don't have any answers.
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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by KateR » Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:04 pm

BJ and Co are the only ones with meaningful answers, whether they turn out to be good answers remains to be seen, so I'm back on the fence again waiting to see, not with baited breath I hasten to add.

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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by AndrewJB » Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:25 pm

houseboy wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:08 pm
I just think there has been too much garbage from both sides bud. We could argue all day and no end would come of it because all the arguments and beliefs are now so entrenched no-one is going to give on their position. My view on the remain side possibly wanting (only in extreme cases) to scuttle Brexit is just down to being a natural cynic, nothing more. When the Nos lost back in the 70s we accepted it gracefully and got on with it, I just hope the remain side now do the same. However we do live in different times now. Who knows mate - I don't have any answers.
Brexit is happening, so I don’t understand how anyone favouring remain can scupper it. The party with the Brexit platform won the election, so I can’t see how other parties can even have a say in how it’s implemented. The Tories have nobody else to blame for what happens next.
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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by Elizabeth » Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:44 pm

And so it goes on........
Take your heads out of the sand.
It was as clear as the nose on Neil Warnock's face that certain groups and individuals were hell bent on thwarting the 17.4 m and millions of remain voters who accepted the Referendum result.
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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by elwaclaret » Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:55 pm

houseboy wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:00 pm
And you can? ;) ;)
Yep.

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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by Goalposts » Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:29 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:01 am
Born and raised in Guildford. Parents teachers. Parents split when she was at a young age and her mum brought up her and her two brothers alone. Was quite poor relying on free school meals and food parcels. Struggled at school not passing her 11 plus. Worked as a cleaner and barmaid to help fund herself resitting her o-levels and taking her A-levels. Went on to study Law and become a successful lawyer specialising on Human Rights. Married a fellow barrister who was from a more privileged background who nevertheless was very successful to the point he was Knighted and received his title.

Have your own personal opinions of how you find her but if Labour is about working class aspirational people who through hard work and determination want to have the opportunity to make a better life for them and their family then Emily Thornberry seems a pretty good example to me
If your aim is to not have labour get into power for the next 15 years then she is a perfect candidate, the other two probably just limit labour to 10 years in the wilderness

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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by TheFamilyCat » Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:39 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:01 am
Born and raised in Guildford. Parents teachers. Parents split when she was at a young age and her mum brought up her and her two brothers alone. Was quite poor relying on free school meals and food parcels. Struggled at school not passing her 11 plus. Worked as a cleaner and barmaid to help fund herself resitting her o-levels and taking her A-levels. Went on to study Law and become a successful lawyer specialising on Human Rights. Married a fellow barrister who was from a more privileged background who nevertheless was very successful to the point he was Knighted and received his title.

Have your own personal opinions of how you find her but if Labour is about working class aspirational people who through hard work and determination want to have the opportunity to make a better life for them and their family then Emily Thornberry seems a pretty good example to me
She's a class traitor then.

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Re: Emily Thornberry

Post by Cryssys » Sat Feb 08, 2020 11:28 am

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:01 am
Born and raised in Guildford. Parents teachers. Parents split when she was at a young age and her mum brought up her and her two brothers alone. Was quite poor relying on free school meals and food parcels. Struggled at school not passing her 11 plus. Worked as a cleaner and barmaid to help fund herself resitting her o-levels and taking her A-levels. Went on to study Law and become a successful lawyer specialising on Human Rights. Married a fellow barrister who was from a more privileged background who nevertheless was very successful to the point he was Knighted and received his title.

Have your own personal opinions of how you find her but if Labour is about working class aspirational people who through hard work and determination want to have the opportunity to make a better life for them and their family then Emily Thornberry seems a pretty good example to me
How dare you post the truth?

I find it remarkable that the Tories on here seem to think that Labour politicians need to be poor. If they are Labour and they have any money then they are portrayed as sell outs and not fit to represent ordinary working people.

Strangely enough though if you have loads of posh people and money in your family (Johnson, Hunt, JRM et al) then all you have to do is lie through your teeth, say what people want to hear and they will vote for you. Why don't Tories have to be poor?

The Tory party accepts money donated by Russian communists (funny how we still haven't seen the report into alleged Russian interference) and by some of the richest individuals in the UK. Whose interest do you think they have at heart? Despite all this and in the eyes of some on here , this somehow qualifies them to best represent ordinary people.

I despair.

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