^^^^^Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:12 pmCurrently the Government will have modelled this, they are not interested in how many people die.
They are trying to manage the peak infection point and minimise the economic impact.
Let’s wind back to what I said a month ago.Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:09 pmI think you are perhaps not in possession of all the facts.
You also need to look through the propaganda of the gov, trying to stop a panic.
Currently if you look at the percentages of people who have either died or recovered.
26% have died, 74% have recovered. Not exactly flu like numbers, Now the died percentage should drop over time.
However 15% of people currently infected are in a critical condition.
The Chinese have admitted anyone who dies who haven’t been tested will not be tested and hence will never appear in the figures.
What you also need to remember is the lag in the figures of the 14 days it takes to show symptoms.
The R zero number is currently 3-4 which means the spread will still be exponential.
Anyone who thinks this is not serious is not grasping the situation.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
What I'm looking for is how many people with "other conditions" are still "strong and well" and enjoying life after picking up covid-19 virus - or at least in the same state of health as they were before covid-19 showed up.thatdberight wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:00 pmYou do know that very few of the deaths anywhere are of people with no other conditions, don't you? This, like your favourite comparison flu, is a factor in the deaths of many with other conditions while being solely responsible for a smaller number.
What meds that you take had run out?Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:11 pmMedical supplies appear to be affected already.
I put my repeat prescription in on Thursday last week, thinking I would do it early.
Normally it’s ready day after or at the latest Sat.
Went into Tesco Tuesday and asked about it, two drugs out of the three they haven’t got.
A guy in front of me was being advised to contact his doctor for an alternative
Told me they would be in Weds.
Today still not got all my drugs and I run out Sat.
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I certainly never said the contact process would stop this and I agree that China's approach is unlikely to be as acceptable or successful here.Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:39 pmTo be fair the source is a friend who is a geek gamer.
I will ask tomorrow to see if there is any proof.
By the way, I said the contact process was not working, got attacked.
People now accept it not working.
We can only slow it to limit economic impact.
We will not do what China has done, as people will not accept it.
OK. So that's not self isolation but, still an indication of the seriousness. It's important people understand what's being asked if they are asked to "self isolate". Good luck with the treatment.Rick_Muller wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:14 pmOK, so I’ve been advised to “self isolate” after my 8 weekly infusion tomorrow, by that my nurse said that I should avoid large crowds and busy areas for a couple of weeks following my treatment tomorrow, but work should be OK as long as I ensure good personal hygiene practices... so much for coming up to Turf Moor on Saturday - TV for me
I said the contact process was pointless, many disagreed, cannot be arsed to go back and find out who. But let’s say you disagreed with just about every post I did.thatdberight wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:39 pmI certainly never said the contact process would stop this and I agree that China's approach is unlikely to be as acceptable or successful here.
Yes. Delete that asap.Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:49 pmNot that I am bothered but by sharing my drugs prescription I did put my real name out there.
It’s not important M
If you had took notice of the medical profession and experts and looked after yourself you might not be 72 with the cardio system of a 100 year old.Gordaleman wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:21 pmYou're just like a person who thinks if he shouts loudest, it means he's right. That's not the case, and calling people names does not give you any credibility at all.
You're just a fearmonger and I can't understand what goes on in the brain of someone like you.
You're exactly what people don't need in a mini crisis.
I'd never do that Lowbank.Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:49 pmNot that I am bothered but by sharing my drugs prescription I did put my real name out there.
Medical authorities and mainstream media could be offering ideas to help people ensure that their immune systems are working to peak performance. Just simple advice such as 'eating plenty of fruit and veg' could help.’ll pop this on here because mainstream media will never pick up on this.
That was 3 of the 6 drugs I take.
Which apparently requires rolls and rolls of toilet paper!! (For some wholly unclear reason!)Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:25 pmChildren, old people, people with respiratory conditions and people with weak immune systems (for a number of reasons), take care.
The rest, just shut the f**k up. It's a glorified flu and you'll be poorly for a week or so.
In your humble opinion.Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:25 pmChildren, old people, people with respiratory conditions and people with weak immune systems (for a number of reasons), take care.
The rest, just shut the f**k up. It's a glorified flu and you'll be poorly for a week or so.
Maybe after a night out they need them like I do.Dark Cloud wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:31 pmWhich apparently requires rolls and rolls of toilet paper!! (For some wholly unclear reason!)
People who haven't even read enough to know that children are seemingly almost untouched by this. Add them to the STFU list.Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:25 pmChildren, old people, people with respiratory conditions and people with weak immune systems (for a number of reasons), take care.
The rest, just shut the f**k up. It's a glorified flu and you'll be poorly for a week or so.
But you have to always be careful where children are concerned with a virus like this.thatdberight wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:37 pmPeople who haven't even read enough to know that children are seemingly almost untouched by this. Add them to the STFU list.
Your bathroom after you've had a night out with 7 pints and a curry is probably far more dangerous than anything you'll find in Wuhan market!!Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:36 pmMaybe after a night out they need them like I do.
And everyone should definitely stay away.
From my experience they just look it up on a list. Everyone gets the same. But, working out ok for me.
There are some very ignorant people on here, but you take the biscuit. You know NOTHING about me and come out with comments like that.Clarinetclaret wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 8:03 pmIf you had took notice of the medical profession and experts and looked after yourself you might not be 72 with the cardio system of a 100 year old.
That's probably your blase attitude to blame. Excercise? Diet? Whats that? All fearmongering, more people die with flu than people who dont look after themselves.
Its countrywide now so that would have no effectUnderSeige wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:15 pmZlatan
Sorry for the suspense. Someone came to the door and I lost my thread.
Refuse to allocate tickets to away supporters from teams that are based in areas of the country in which the virus is particularly high.
Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:11 pmMedical supplies appear to be affected already.
I put my repeat prescription in on Thursday last week, thinking I would do it early.
Normally it’s ready day after or at the latest Sat.
Went into Tesco Tuesday and asked about it, two drugs out of the three they haven’t got.
A guy in front of me was being advised to contact his doctor for an alternative
Told me they would be in Weds.
Today still not got all my drugs and I run out Sat.
There's absolutely no point in panicking about 'what might happen'.Bfcboyo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:11 amI
At worst it kills our elderly sick relatives and costs us financially with companies closing and the economy grinding to a halt. The rushed drug trials dont get the time they need and affects newborns during pregnancy.
The virus has a slight mutation and becomes serious with a 50 50 death rate and starts to take our families away. Riots for food and supplies break out with many deaths as the human race falls apart. Government's tumble and city's crumble. A new world forms from the wreckage of our old society a desolate , raw and gritty place like the old wild west.
I'm staying positive about it all.
i highly doubt that drug shortages are anything to do with Covid-19.
Thank you for those calming words. I was in total despair my wife has left because I'd spent our retirement savings on toilet roll which has filled the house and garden and I've been spending most of my time breathing through an air filter submerged in a bath of hand gel.UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:12 amThere's absolutely no point in panicking about 'what might happen'.
Another virus could come along tomorrow and wipe out half the world, we still got on just fine before all this happened. We're literally always a virus away from civilisation crumbling..
At the moment it's a very minor problem that people are overreacting to.
To date, as far as we know, there has been no general outbreak in any area. The worst town hit has been Brighton in which 'Super Spreader Mike Walsh' infected five other people. There are maps online that show where the cases have been identified. In the towns where it has been identified, there are just one or two isolated cases - usually from people travelling back from overseas.Its countrywide now so that would have no effect.
From where, other than sheer blind prejudice, have you got that?dougcollins wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:23 pmThe same people who want to 'Take back control' and 'Make Britain great again' will no doubt be the same ones emptying the supermarket shelves.
There'll be even happier if they can replicate rationing.