Covid-19

[Spiral]

We've entered the giftshop phase of Ringo's posting cycle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MFtl2XXnUc

[RingoMcCartney]

Just when you thought this thread couldn't get anymore unpleasant, Ringo pops up spewing his bile about foreigners.

Just when I thought the point at which people were throwing, unthinking labels round like confetti , had peaked. Ksr pops up spouting utter gibberish.

[RingoMcCartney]

Firstly ban all flights from China Japan and Singapore .

Instead of not releasing the names of people infected, release the name and movements and anyone who knows they came into contact with them to isolate themselves.

The man from Singapore, was out and about for 4 days before going to hospital.

The person who came back from France to London, do not know how long he was about before being diagnosed.

I hope I am wrong but I fear in two weeks time the number of cases in the UK will start to climb.

What's this !!!!?

[RingoMcCartney]

Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:55 pm

Firstly ban all flights from China Japan and Singapore .

Instead of not releasing the names of people infected, release the name and movements and anyone who knows they came into contact with them to isolate themselves.

The man from Singapore, was out and about for 4 days before going to hospital.

The person who came back from France to London, do not know how long he was about before being diagnosed.

I hope I am wrong but I fear in two weeks time the number of cases in the UK will start to climb.

For simply suggesting that, had border posts been maintained across Europe . Instead of being allowed to fall into disrepair as part of the EUs free movement of people policy. Then individual governments would now be in a better position to help in the process of quarantining, as we've seen in Austria and Slovenia.

While you call for " Firstly ban all flights from China Japan and Singapore !!!!!! "


You have the brass neck to come out with this pile of hypocrisy riddled hysterical, unthinking , holier than thou, virtue signalling, belittling, attempt to claim the moral high ground , clap trap!!!!

Ringo, your coming across as a raving racist.

Only one one person pops up with racist remarks.

No surprise to me it’s Ringo.

The only person calling for this solution is the RAVING RACIST.

No one else

Mr Pot, allow me to introduce you to Mr Kettle!!!

Ringo Hitler McCartney is here, normal people can remove themselves from this thread.

Says our very own Benito Lowbank Mussolini.

I have requested he is banned for racist remarks.

We will see what happens

Hope you've requested that all those vile racists that called for " Firstly, ban all flights from China Japan and Singapore " be banned while you were at it!


GOLD PLATED , (WHO LOOKS SILLY NOW?), HYPOCRISY.

[Bullabill]

I think LowBank is referring to the post which called for better border control and the immediate cessation of all flights from China, Japan and Singapore.

Which would be weird because it was LowBank who posted that.

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Yes, I can see what you're doing there thatdberight !

[Zlatan]

Nadine Dorries has the coronavirus.

Recovering now.

That’s a shame...

[Rick_Muller]

Nadine Dorries has the coronavirus.

Recovering now.

She’s my MP. Locals aren’t worried as she’s never here

[Zlatan]

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/ ... u?amp=true

Some good facts here

[thatdberight]

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/ ... u?amp=true

Some good facts here

It has.

But if you'd been in a hole for three months and then read that article, I don't think you'd be able to guess what impact this novel virus is having on everyday life. So it must be missing something important.

[Zlatan]

this made me chuckle...

Yes Minister response to Coronavirus...

https://twitter.com/JavierBlas/status/1 ... 0588470272

[thatdberight]

this made me chuckle...

Yes Minister response to Coronavirus...

https://twitter.com/JavierBlas/status/1 ... 0588470272

This graph is interesting (latest observation 6%). Of course the fact that it's multiple outbreaks being managed differently with clearly different reporting standards doesn't help and the continued overweight of the original epicentre is testament to the limitations of the spread but still, interesting.

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[Zlatan]

This graph is interesting (latest observation 6%). Of course the fact that it's multiple outbreaks being managed differently with clearly different reporting standards doesn't help and the continued overweight of the original epicentre is testament to the limitations of the spread but still, interesting.

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The problem with that graph is that not many actually understand the data... but dont get me started on that, just review my posts on this thread...

[Bfcboyo]

That’s a shame...

Racist.

[Gordaleman]

Did they stop flights to/from China early?

Italy did and it obviously didn't help.

[Zlatan]

it's a good time to revisit JP Sears again...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW7dASdQIgU

[RingoMcCartney]

Italy did and it obviously didn't help.

Do you know how much more worse it could have been had they not?

You dont know, neither do I.

Now we all know you're a racist. What a load of old tosh

Now, while you're here, I'd love you to explain your thought process that went into you labelling me "a racist".

I said - "in many parts of europe , thanks to the EUs policies, the borders between nations are non existent and the physical infrastructure of former checkpoints, has been allowed to fall into disrepair. Had it not, border checks would have surely helped in quarantining."

Tell me, what is "racist" about my suggestion that people , the vast majority being the same race as me . Having their movement restricted by functioning border posts. In order to help quarantining which would help to possibly slow down the spread of a virus amongst people on the other side of the border post, who similarly, the vast majority would be the same race as me?

What's "racist" about, ultimately, wanting to protect people , who are the same race as me!?

Secondly, when these border posts were manned and functioning and restricted movement of people.

1, Were the staff , who operated them, "racist"

Yes or no?

2. Were the governments , like France, Belgium for instance, "racist" governments for restricting movement of people?

Yes or no?

Finally , the Austrian and Slovenian governments have imposed tight border restrictions as a way of both helping the Italian government in their quarantining program, and , presumably protecting their own citizens.

Are the Austrian and Slovenian governments "racist"

Yes or no?

[Lowbankclaret]

For simply suggesting that, had border posts been maintained across Europe . Instead of being allowed to fall into disrepair as part of the EUs free movement of people policy. Then individual governments would now be in a better position to help in the process of quarantining, as we've seen in Austria and Slovenia.

While you call for " Firstly ban all flights from China Japan and Singapore !!!!!! "


You have the brass neck to come out with this pile of hypocrisy riddled hysterical, unthinking , holier than thou, virtue signalling, belittling, attempt to claim the moral high ground , clap trap!!!!







Mr Pot, allow me to introduce you to Mr Kettle!!!



Says our very own Benito Lowbank Mussolini.




Hope you've requested that all those vile racists that called for " Firstly, ban all flights from China Japan and Singapore " be banned while you were at it!


GOLD PLATED , (WHO LOOKS SILLY NOW?), HYPOCRISY.

Well, your quoting things from some time ago when I believed drastic actions could contain the virus in the limited countries it was in.
Having not taken those actions it’s now global and pointless stopping flights.

So I made the point to contain the virus where it was.

I suggest you however just want to keep people out.

[RingoMcCartney]

Well, your quoting things from some time ago when I believed drastic actions could contain the virus in the limited countries it was in.
Having not taken those actions it’s now global and pointless stopping flights.

So I made the point to contain the virus where it was.

I suggest you however just want to keep people out.

No no no no no!

You're putting words into my mouth you utter hypocrisy riddled person!

I simply said that "in many parts of europe , thanks to the EUs policies, the borders between nations are non existent and the physical infrastructure of former checkpoints, has been allowed to fall into disrepair. Had it not, border checks would have surely helped in quarantining."

It was you that wanted a blanket ban on flights coming from certain countries!!

It was you the guy that throws the "racist" label around like it's going out of fashion that wants to "keep people out!!

It was you that compared me to Adolf Hitler, a tyrant responsible for the deaths of millions.

Why? For simply suggesting that had border posts been maintained, they could help in the process of quarantining!

And yet. And yet! You pick on the people of china, Singapore and Japan for banning from setting foot in this country Lowbank!

Why is that? Is it because they're, by and large , a different race to you!?

I put it to you that, rather than me, for being concerned about people who, the majority , are the same race as me being racist. Its actual you !!

I'm going to get onto the mods and see about getting you banned!

(That's how it works isn't it!?)

LOWBANK CLARET - IF CARLSBERG DID GOLD PLATED HYPOCRISY.

[claret2018]

Mods, close this thread now, the local nut job has ruined it (again)

[martin_p]

Now, while you're here, I'd love you to explain your thought process that went into you labelling me "a racist".

I suspect it’s your history on this message board. You may not have been racist (yet) on this thread but you do continue to be a complete and utter **** who drags down conversations and tries to make them all about himself. Please go away.

[ClaretAndJew]

This isn't the Brexit I voted for.

[Gordaleman]

I suspect it’s your history on this message board. You may not have been racist (yet) on this thread but you do continue to be a complete and utter **** who drags down conversations and tries to make them all about himself. Please go away.

He's like the BB version of the gutter press. Just ignore him and he'll go away.

[RingoMcCartney]

I suspect it’s your history on this message board. You may not have been racist (yet) on this thread but you do continue to be a complete and utter **** who drags down conversations and tries to make them all about himself. Please go away.

When people label you "racist" . I think its reasonable to both defend yourself, and point out the hypocrisy of those doing the labelling.

Plus , when it comes to suggesting people " go away" . Take your own advice.

[Gordaleman]

This afternoon's budget looks as though it could be very interesting. There is definitely going to be some sort of fiscal stimulus to help smaller companies and it could even extend to giving everyone in the country an amount of money to go out and spend, to help those companies. Not very likely, but it could happen.

[AlargeClaret]

Seems the cozy cabal of left wingers on the thread has been rattled somewhat by a few Ringo posts .Predictable near hysterical outrage over literally nothing at all.

[RingoMcCartney]

He's like the BB version of the gutter press. Just ignore him and he'll go away.

Cat got your tongue? You were quick enough to jump in with your groundless accusations of "racism".

I said - "in many parts of europe , thanks to the EUs policies, the borders between nations are non existent and the physical infrastructure of former checkpoints, has been allowed to fall into disrepair. Had it not, border checks would have surely helped in quarantining."

Tell me, what is "racist" about my suggestion that people , the vast majority being the same race as me . Having their movement restricted by functioning border posts. In order to help quarantining which would help to possibly slow down the spread of a virus amongst people on the other side of the border post, who similarly, the vast majority would be the same race as me?

What's "racist" about, ultimately, wanting to protect people , who are the same race as me!?

Secondly, when these border posts were manned and functioning and restricted movement of people.

1, Were the staff , who operated them, "racist"

Yes or no?

2. Were the governments , like France, Belgium for instance, "racist" governments for restricting movement of people?

Yes or no?

Finally , the Austrian and Slovenian governments have imposed tight border restrictions as a way of both helping the Italian government in their quarantining program, and , presumably protecting their own citizens.

Are the Austrian and Slovenian governments "racist"

Yes or no?

[tim_noone]

Well, your quoting things from some time ago when I believed drastic actions could contain the virus in the limited countries it was in.
Having not taken those actions it’s now global and pointless stopping flights.

So I made the point to contain the virus where it was.

I suggest you however just want to keep people out.

You can't out someone as racist. Then Backtrack move the Goalposts etc.to suit your Agenda.

[RingoMcCartney]

Mods, close this thread now, the local nut job has ruined it (again)

I think you'll find the nut jobs are those that brand people "racist" for suggesting that border checks help other countries and their citizens in the quarantining process.

[Lowbankclaret]

A small piece of information.

If your click on a persons name on a thread. It brings up a new screen .

There is a select Add Foe.

If you add that person to your foe list, their posts contents are hidden from view but you can see they have posted
You can unhide the post to read it if you wish.

It may be worth some people doing this as I have today.

[Lowbankclaret]

This is what you then see!!

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[Lowbankclaret]

You can't out someone as racist. Then Backtrack move the Goalposts etc.to suit your Agenda.

I do think the two people’s remarks were made in different contexts, but that’s open for other people judgements.

Back when I said ban flights there were 3-4 countries infected and I was hopeful it could be contained.

Unfortunately some countries are thinking a total lockdown is the only way to fight this.

There are some countries who are being successful using far less serious measure, which we need to learn from. But we are not doing. Take Taiwan as one example.

[FactualFrank]

A business conference centred on coronavirus has just been called off to avoid spreading the disease. The irony.

[FactualFrank]

'Fatalities up by 26% worldwide'

According to Reuters, fatalities were up by more than 26 per cent globally by 2am today compared to the same time a day earlier.

The news agency's latest tally showed there were more than 119,000 cases of coronavirus worldwide and 4,296 deaths linked to the virus as of 2am GMT today.

This is an increase of about 5,000 cases from the same time on Tuesday, when there were 114,300 cases and 4,026 deaths.

The death toll in Italy jumped by 168 to 631 on Tuesday - an increase of 36 per cent, which is the largest rise in absolute numbers since the contagion came to light on 21 February.

[RingoMcCartney]

I do think the two people’s remarks were made in different contexts, but that’s open for other people judgements.

Back when I said ban flights there were 3-4 countries infected and I was hopeful it could be contained.

Unfortunately some countries are thinking a total lockdown is the only way to fight this.

There are some countries who are being successful using far less serious measure, which we need to learn from. But we are not doing. Take Taiwan as one example.

Poster 1 (lowbank claret) suggests a blanket ban on flights coming from countries whose majority of passengers would be a different race to himself.

He says he said this could be a measure that helps to stop the spread of a virus

This is not racist

Poster 2, (RingoMcCartney) suggests that border posts and checks made there, on people , the majority of whom would be the same race as as themselves. Could be helpful.

He said said this could be a measure that helps to stop the spread of a virus.

This is racist.

Unthinking , moronic, logic lacking hypocrisy riddled garbage, of the very highest order.

[RingoMcCartney]

This is what you then see!!


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And then they do the social media equivalent of sticking his fingers in their ears, like a toddler, and screams, "I cant hear you! I wont ear you!"

Pathetic hypocrisy.

[martin_p]

'Fatalities up by 26% worldwide'

According to Reuters, fatalities were up by more than 26 per cent globally by 2am today compared to the same time a day earlier.

The news agency's latest tally showed there were more than 119,000 cases of coronavirus worldwide and 4,296 deaths linked to the virus as of 2am GMT today.

This is an increase of about 5,000 cases from the same time on Tuesday, when there were 114,300 cases and 4,026 deaths.

The death toll in Italy jumped by 168 to 631 on Tuesday - an increase of 36 per cent, which is the largest rise in absolute numbers since the contagion came to light on 21 February.

Where’s the 26% come from then. An increase in fatalities from 4,026 to 4,296 is nearer 6%.

[FactualFrank]

Where’s the 26% come from then. An increase in fatalities from 4,026 to 4,296 is nearer 6%.

It's the Independent, but not sure.

[RingoMcCartney]

I suggest you however just want to keep people out.

From the very same person who said

Firstly ban all flights from China Japan and Singapore .

You could not make it up!

[Bordeauxclaret]

I thought Ringo and Lowbank got on before. Did something happen during that election campaigning I wonder?

[thatdberight]

Angela Merkel says 60-70% of Germans to get the virus. Anybody got a calculator?

[FactualFrank]

Angela Merkel says 60-70% of Germans to get the virus. Anybody got a calculator?

She was talking like she'd only just read up on it, by stating the bleeding obvious for the majority.

[Zlatan]

Angela Merkel says 60-70% of Germans to get the virus. Anybody got a calculator?

that may well be accurate, but unless she has qualified it with a time-frame it's absolutely pointless as 58-68% may get it after a vaccine has been developed and is being used, if you understand what I mean.

[FactualFrank]

that may well be accurate, but unless she has qualified it with a time-frame it's absolutely pointless as 58-68% may get it after a vaccine has been developed and is being used, if you understand what I mean.

She also informed us that there isn't an immunity to it and there's no vaccine. Breaking news, or what.

[KateR]

A small piece of information.

If your click on a persons name on a thread. It brings up a new screen .

There is a select Add Foe.

If you add that person to your foe list, their posts contents are hidden from view but you can see they have posted
You can unhide the post to read it if you wish.

It may be worth some people doing this as I have today.

Interesting, so you can now call someone names, be insulting and then simply hide from them when they actually respond to your name calling and insulting messages!!

Seems very cowardly to me and a pathetic childish action but I suppose if it works, then people will use the tools available.

[KateR]

what seems a little odd to me, and I say this because I have not read or heard about from anyone anywhere, so maybe someone here will have some insight:

Given it's a virus, it spreads, we know it kills, we know there is no vaccine as of yet and will be quite a while before there is, therefore my simple logic is it will affect a lot more people as we move forward, yes all known. However when we have the flu there is a vaccine, it "appears" to come out in winter and kills tens of thousands, similarly it is the old and those with existing conditions. So I know not the same but similar in many aspects.

If we jump forward to winter 2020/21 and let's say/hope there is a vaccine (I know doubtful but humour me please) will there, do you expect mass panic, self isolation every year for the foreseeable future as I am convinced the vaccine will not eradicate it totally, appreciate your thoughts on this?

[FactualFrank]

Hannover's Timo Hubers has become the first football player in Germany to test positive for coronavirus.

[Lowbankclaret]

I thought Ringo and Lowbank got on before. Did something happen during that election campaigning I wonder?

Nope, didn’t like the tone of his posts on a thread that threatens thousands of people’s health worldwide.

[Zlatan]

I still cant help but wonder if the same media outcry and publicity was applied to child hunger for example would there be the same response. I know there wouldn't be, because child hunger is "normalised" across the modern world, but pick any disease - if it doesn't affect first world countries, no one actually gives a crap - as soon as politicians get affected it's a major problem...

[Erasmus]

Kate, the problem with the flu vaccine is that flu comes in a number of different forms, a number of different viruses, so when they prepare a vaccine they have to guess which strain is mostly likely to be active that winter. And in most years, several strains of flu virus are active so the vaccine can give only limited protection. Added to which, those who are most vulnerable often have weaker immune systems which means that they develop only limited immunity even to those strains of flu they are vaccinated against.

From what I have read, the Covid-19 virus is so far occurring in a single form so if and when a vaccine is developed it will be effective against that virus. The problem of limited immunity being acquired by the elderly will still remain, however, due to the limited ability of their immune systems to respond to vaccination.

[Lowbankclaret]

what seems a little odd to me, and I say this because I have not read or heard about from anyone anywhere, so maybe someone here will have some insight:

Given it's a virus, it spreads, we know it kills, we know there is no vaccine as of yet and will be quite a while before there is, therefore my simple logic is it will affect a lot more people as we move forward, yes all known. However when we have the flu there is a vaccine, it "appears" to come out in winter and kills tens of thousands, similarly it is the old and those with existing conditions. So I know not the same but similar in many aspects.

If we jump forward to winter 2020/21 and let's say/hope there is a vaccine (I know doubtful but humour me please) will there, do you expect mass panic, self isolation every year for the foreseeable future as I am convinced the vaccine will not eradicate it totally, appreciate your thoughts on this?

It’s Truely hard to say what’s going to happen going forward.
Flu mutates each year hence we get sick each year, some versions are more serious than others.
I was sent home yesterday for the second time in 4 weeks with seasonal flu, feel like crap today, last year I got all three versions.

It maybe correct that this Covid virus might mutate and future winters we might as you say have to get used to higher death tolls. We will have to wait and see.

As my mum put it last night, this has the potential to solve the crisis in old people’s care and the pension crisis.

If this did become a yearly thing, I suggest ours lives would change significantly if that happens.