Covid-19

[Claret32yrs]

Went to the supermarket again yesterday. Had very few people in, had everything I wanted in stock but shelves for toilet roll were very low. What is the deal with toilet roll? Of all the things you'd think people would panic buy. Tinned food, non-perishables, pasta anything with a long shelf life. It's bog roll that they're worried about.

[Gordaleman]

Only if it's on the BBC

Why the continual sarcasm? I thought you were the one that like genuine debate?

[Lowbankclaret]

As I posted before the numbers appear to settle for 3-4 days and then it doubles. Today we see the step double from 50-60 each day up to 130’s . Numbers of this magnitude are likely to announce each day till around Tuesday when it’s likely to double again.

What needs to happen is all people who are showing symptoms be tested.

Currently only if you have been to a red zone or been in definite contact with a confirmed case can you get a test. That needs to change immediately

[Zlatan]

Went to the supermarket again yesterday. Had very few people in, had everything I wanted in stock but shelves for toilet roll were very low. What is the deal with toilet roll? Of all the things you'd think people would panic buy. Tinned food, non-perishables, pasta anything with a long shelf life. It's bog roll that they're worried about.

it's because when 1 person sneezes 100 sh!t themselves

[FactualFrank]

Went to the supermarket again yesterday. Had very few people in, had everything I wanted in stock but shelves for toilet roll were very low. What is the deal with toilet roll? Of all the things you'd think people would panic buy. Tinned food, non-perishables, pasta anything with a long shelf life. It's bog roll that they're worried about.

True. At the end of the day you can have a crap and then jump in the shower to wash your backside clean. I wonder if boxes of tissues have also cleared, or kitchen roll.

[Gordaleman]

True. At the end of the day you can have a crap and then jump in the shower to wash your backside clean. I wonder if boxes of tissues have also cleared, or kitchen roll.

Most of the nation's tissues and toilet paper are made in Manchester, and yesterday they said they had about 65 million rolls in stock. It's just a matter of getting it out to the supermarkets.

[Claret32yrs]

True. At the end of the day you can have a crap and then jump in the shower to wash your backside clean. I wonder if boxes of tissues have also cleared, or kitchen roll.

There's always 'Izal Toilet Paper'. Don't know if you remember that. That was one unforgiving (still is apparently) loo roll. Only a few short steps away from using sandpaper!

[HieronymousBoschHobs]

Low bank claret is correct, widespread and efficient testing is key. Here is an interesting article from a virologist at the Francis Crick Institute

In countries where rapid testing and isolation do not happen, the disease will at its peak rapidly overwhelm the ability of hospitals to cope, and the case fatality rate will be much higher. The global case fatality rate is above 3 per cent at the moment, and if – reasonable worst case scenario – 30-70 per cent of the 7.8 billion people on earth are infected, that means between 70 and 165 million deaths. It would be the worst disaster in human history in terms of total lives lost. Nobody expects this, because everyone expects that people will comply with efficient public health measures put in place by responsible governments.

...

I received an email from a colleague in infectious diseases. His message was in no way reassuring. He made three main points:

1. This is not business as usual. This will be different from what anyone living has ever experienced. The closest comparator is 1918 influenza.

2. early social distancing is the best weapon we have to combat Covid-19.

3. Humanity will get through this fine, but be prepared for major changes in how we function and behave as a society until either we’re through the pandemic or we have mass immunisation available.

I am writing in haste. This is a fast-moving situation, and the numbers are constantly changing – certainly the ones I have given here will be out of date by the time you read this. What’s very clear is that we must comply immediately with whatever measures competent public health authorities urge us to take, even if they seem disproportionate. It’s time to increase ‘social distance’ in all sorts of ways. And wash your hands.

This was written nearly a week ago

[thatdberight]

ATP shuts down.
Netherlands bans gatherings of >100

[Gordaleman]

Why the continual sarcasm? I thought you were the one that like genuine debate?

Bump

[TVC15]

Aye needed that - last post was a full 11 minutes ago

[Jakubclaret]

True. At the end of the day you can have a crap and then jump in the shower to wash your backside clean. I wonder if boxes of tissues have also cleared, or kitchen roll.

I don't even think some people would bother with the effort of the shower, just a case of changing boxer shorts when required.

[FactualFrank]

I've just received a blanket text message from my Doctor's Surgery to say that all face-to-face appointments have been suspended and that all appointments will be done over the phone.

[paulatky]

As I posted before the numbers appear to settle for 3-4 days and then it doubles. Today we see the step double from 50-60 each day up to 130’s . Numbers of this magnitude are likely to announce each day till around Tuesday when it’s likely to double again.

What needs to happen is all people who are showing symptoms be tested.

Currently only if you have been to a red zone or been in definite contact with a confirmed case can you get a test. That needs to change immediately

How many people a day can we test in the UK ?
I heard somewhere it was just 10,000 that doesnt seem a lot.

Considering the overall number of confirmed cases is low the number of high profile people confirmed with it seems high.
Are they paying privately for tests ?

[Lowbankclaret]

Just watching Nicola Sturgeon on Sky.

She is saying they not going to attempt to test all people who are showing Symptoms.

I think that’s a bad bad idea.

Apart from it hiding the actual numbers, people will be unlikely to self isolate if they have not been tested.

[Lowbankclaret]

How many people a day can we test in the UK ?
I heard somewhere it was just 10,000 that doesnt seem a lot.

Considering the overall number of confirmed cases is low the number of high profile people confirmed with it seems high.
Are they paying privately for tests ?

I honestly have no idea.
I was looking at buying shares in a company that makes the tests but missed the boat , they went from 15p to £1.50 in a couple of days.

A mobile test centre has been set up in Wolves but 111 have to get you an appointment, as I say you need to have been to a red zone or been in contact with a confirmed case to get an appointment.

High profile people, I agree there seems to be a high proportion.

My guess is the test is cheap so they could be paying for it.

[Gordaleman]

I honestly have no idea.
I was looking at buying shares in a company that makes the tests but missed the boat , they went from 15p to £1.50 in a couple of days.

A mobile test centre has been set up in Wolves but 111 have to get you an appointment, as I say you need to have been to a red zone or been in contact with a confirmed case to get an appointment.

High profile people, I agree there seems to be a high proportion.

My guess is the test is cheap so they could be paying for it.

This was brought up last night afer Matt Hancock's statement.

Mrs Pauline Latham (Mid Derbyshire) (Con)

My constituents have developed a test for the virus. They are selling it all round the world, but we are not using it in this country. It costs £5. It is working, and it gives a result within 10 minutes—it is a quick, cheap way to do it. May I urge the Secretary of State to ask the Department to investigate that and ensure that we are using the most effective test possible?

Matt Hancock

Yes, absolutely. My hon. Friend has brought that to my attention before. We have done research into it, and we are working with over two dozen commercial companies that have tests of this kind. In fact, I had a meeting on this today.

[Claret32yrs]

Spice?

[Lowbankclaret]

Now you might think I saw this before but it was just sent to me.
If you don’t want to listen how scary this could be don’t watch. It’s an America expert.

https://youtu.be/cZFhjMQrVts

[uptheclarets]

The stock market has been an absolute bloodbath today.
FTSE down almost 10% and Dow over 9%.
Tomorrow is Friday 13th

[Gordaleman]

Aussie F1 Grand Prix off. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/51849163

Just two days ago, the Aussies said it would go ahead complete with crowds.

I think this is more down to a team pulling out than anything else though.

[Claret32yrs]

The stock market has been an absolute bloodbath today.
FTSE down almost 10% and Dow over 9%.
Tomorrow is Friday 13th

That's all we need! Zombies contracting it as well!

[Gordaleman]

The stock market has been an absolute bloodbath today.
FTSE down almost 10% and Dow over 9%.
Tomorrow is Friday 13th

That's a lot. Someone will pick up some real bargains if that continues. Soros? Or Buffet?

[Steve1956]

Spice?

Mock at your peril

[evensteadiereddie]

We will !

[Lowbankclaret]

Aussie F1 Grand Prix off. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/51849163

Just two days ago, the Aussies said it would go ahead complete with crowds.

I think this is more down to a team pulling out than anything else though.

I had heard 1 Maclaren employee tested positive.
Two Hass employees were in isolation.

As pointed out above, it seems strange there so many high profile cases.

Aus has about 130 cases and could be 3 F1 employees seems disproportionate.

[Steve1956]

We will !

I know you will any chance you get,,can you not stalk someone else for a bit your boring the shite out of me

[Claret32yrs]

It could also just be a winter flu virus...with Brexit done and dusted they need something else to worry us about.

Don't rule out the Democrats being behind this. Trump is getting old and looks jaundiced, well beyond jaundiced; he's bright orange ffs!

[Gordaleman]

I had heard 1 Maclaren employee tested positive.
Two Hass employees were in isolation.

As pointed out above, it seems strange there so many high profile cases.

Aus has about 130 cases and could be 3 F1 employees seems disproportionate.

High profile people do more travelling and meet more people. That's probably why.

[Jakubclaret]

It could also just be a winter flu virus...with Brexit done and dusted they need something else to worry us about.

You just never know for sure, it’s crossed my mind with culling the elderly population some sort of Brexit reversal as the elderly overwhelmingly voted leave, it’s far fetched & incredible to be true perhaps. I’m not 1 for believing in conspiracy stories the door of doubt always seems to be ajar with some of them & not firmly shut.

[evensteadiereddie]

I know you will any chance you get,,can you not stalk someone else for a bit your boring the shite out of me

Stalking you ? You wish, you prat.
You made a dickhead comment and got duly ridiculed for it.
If that bores you, stop posting ********.

[Steve1956]

You just never know for sure, it’s crossed my mind with culling the elderly population some sort of Brexit reversal as the elderly overwhelmingly voted leave, it’s far fetched & incredible to be true perhaps. I’m not 1 for believing in conspiracy stories the door of doubt always seems to be ajar with some of them & not firmly shut.

You do know 9/11 never happened don't you buddy?

[thatdberight]

Bump

Bump

[Steve1956]

Stalking you ? You wish, you prat.
You made a dickhead comment and got duly ridiculed for it.
If that bores you, stop posting ********.

[thatdberight]

The coronavirus has been man made for population control. A mass cull of the elderly and sick. China is massively over populated. It's been designed to be less dangerous to children as they are of course the next generation. That said though, children who have comprised immune systems should 100% be extra careful ....anyone see any substance to this?

Yes. Lunatics.

[Lowbankclaret]

That's a lot. Someone will pick up some real bargains if that continues. Soros? Or Buffet?

FTSE is down nearly 30% from its high a couple of months ago.

It’s going to go lower, might even get close to 50% down in total.

[evensteadiereddie]

[Dy1geo]

According to Robert Peston on Twitter, the Govt. is favouring “the Herd” way of dealing with this virus and basically us taking it on the chin and building up immunity which is a very risky strategy as a lot of individuals will become very ill and more will die.

[Gordaleman]

FTSE is down nearly 30% from its high a couple of months ago.

It’s going to go lower, might even get close to 50% down in total.

Even bigger bargains.

It's an ill wind that blows no-one good.

[Jakubclaret]

You do know 9/11 never happened don't you buddy?

I believe that 1, maybe not the straightforward version there’s a few different subplots to that.

[Claret32yrs]

I'm going to Steve's house. He's got some good sh*t!

[fidelcastro]

You do know 9/11 never happened don't you buddy?

Don't forget that man didn't really go to the moon, Diana was actually murdered by Prince Phillip and that the world is controlled by giant lizards.

[Claret32yrs]

I believe that 1, maybe not the straightforward version there’s a few different subplots to that.

Tend to agree but that's for another day.

[claretonthecoast1882]

FTSE is down nearly 30% from its high a couple of months ago.

It’s going to go lower, might even get close to 50% down in total.

Getting close to the perfect time to buy

[Steve1956]

I'm going to Steve's house. He's got some good sh*t!

Yea come round,but don't bring that bellend Eddie with ya

[Gordaleman]

Don't forget that man didn't really go to the moon, Diana was actually murdered by Prince Phillip and that the world is controlled by giant lizards.

That's the problem with conspiracy theories. Just because some are total tosh, it doesn't mean they all are.

[FCBurnley]

PGA continuing to play but no spectators after today until further notice

[paulatky]

According to Robert Peston on Twitter, the Govt. is favouring “the Herd” way of dealing with this virus and basically us taking it on the chin and building up immunity which is a very risky strategy as a lot of individuals will become very ill and more will die.

Unfortunately that was always going to be the case - putting economy before individuals health

[Spijed]

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-03-12/rob ... -strategy/

[Claret32yrs]

That's the problem with conspiracy theories. Just because some are total tosh, it doesn't mean they all are.

Dr David Kelly after evidence at the Iraq enquiry for instance. Dammit! Let's stay on track That one made no sense to his family at all.