Dark Cloud wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 9:41 pm
Anyone died of pasta deficiency yet?? (Thought not!)
Mate of mine saw a guy with just a 24 pack of toilet rolls in his trolley in Tescos and nothing else. He politely asked him why he'd been and got them. The guy replied he didn't actually know!!
Which absolutely sums people up. I have to say I really don't care how many flappers, panickers and shelf strippers die with this thing because I've realised something. The people of Burnley and Padiham are absolutely stupid. They are busy buying, hoarding and stockpiling CRAP that they don't want and will never ever need and they have absolutely no idea why. They have bought up all he pasta they can get their hands on simply because....well why?? Is it because a lack of pasta can lead to death in 3 days? They've bought toilet rolls, but don't actually know why and today they've bought shed loads of bottled water I notice, when actually it's FREE FROM THE TAP!!!
The only people who are REALLY pleased are Tescos who have apparently issued a mammoth profit forecast and all thanks to the half wits of East Lancashire and a virus which will apparently bring about the end of the world!! Well I've news, it wont!! Because no one ever died of a smelly ass or a lack of pasta and whilst the "powers that be" are busy cancelling things which involve a few people gathering together, (like kids footy training FFS!!!) I noticed on my afternoon pub crawl in Halifax that there were far more people gathered in Weatherspoons today than at some "gatherings" which have been cancelled. (So yet another company set to announce increased profits!!) As someone said much earlier on here, "its an ill wind....." Flappers and stockpilers, you are an absolute joke!!! The virus is out there and it's after you!!! Me? I'll be absolutely fine, because I haven't even broken stride!!
I'm loath to turn this thread political so bear in mind when I type this I'm not provoking an argument but rather trying to give insight into a certain worldview which, prior to this tangible, material impact on day-to-day life, might only have been comprehensible in the abstract to folks with a more right-wing worldview, and I'm only doing so because I happen to agree with your post above. I apologise if I've got you mixed up with someone else, Dark Cloud, but I think you're a conservative, right? Bear in mind that I also don't intend to patronise or presume you're incapable of seeing things from another's point of view. I'm also thinking out loud to others who care to listen. Right, so then, I'm not one of those 'down with capitalism' comrades, but I am of the opinion that too many folks take the absolute pi$$ and summat's got to give before it all breaks apart (the economy needs paying customers for it to work, not skint serfs), and that capitalism happens to, though needn't necessarily, feed the avarice of the worst, most rapacious pi$$-takers, which wouldn't in and of itself be so terrible if it weren't done at the direct expense of people born into an environment where their prospects are limited. Capitalism without governance which advocates for the less well-to-do allows those with more toilet paper and pasta...er...I mean...money, assets, power and influence than they know how to spend to dominate folks for no reason other than to perpetuate the cycle and accumulate more of it. Hoarding pasta and TP for the sake of hoarding pasta and TP is insane, right? Well, what is money but a token that allows you to buy pasta and TP? My disgust and yours is the same, which is the point of this post. I know I'm being a little reductive, but that outrage you're feeling at people hoarding TP and non-perishable food is the exact same feeling in the gut of a lot of lefties who look around at the greed and corruption of short sighted, socially irresponsible idiots, and ask for people to conduct themselves in a better manner. OBR and IFS reports won't override that feeling in people's gut. I recognise the same work is at play in people's views on Brexit.
In this worldview, it's as though there's no such thing as a social contract, as though people exist to serve capitalism, rather than capitalism existing to serve people. That raid on resources, that feeding frenzy, that hysteria and selfishness you see from folks trying to keep a clear arse, and the frustration and despair you feel towards it - that's a simulacrum of an entire worldview, calcified by people being told that life-saving services, their dignity, and what hope they may have in life must be sacrificed on the altar of "a long term economic plan" - a codeword for more selfishness, in their eyes. I don't say all this expecting or even asking anyone to change their views, but that pang that makes you think "what absolute bellends" might make others see what drives that entire worldview, and better engage with in even in disagreement, rather that assume it's driven by envy or hatred. Sometimes it does well to ask yourself what a person's best intensions are for doing the thing they're doing and holding the views they hold, which is why when I use words like 'greed', I think what it really points to is understandable fear. Have nice things, by all means, but don't trample over people for them. It takes a bit of courage to put the wellbeing of others over your own riches, I think. I wonder if an existential crisis like this might allow that conversation to happen. Believe me, I know how misty-eyed and wet this all sounds, but it's food for thought on a Saturday night. Ha! What else are we gonna' do without footy!
To put is plainly, I read what you posted and thought "I've bloody been saying this for years!"
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