Covid-19

[Grumps]

How could they ‘assist’ with childcare from a different building? Think before posting!

If required..perhaps it never was, I don't know if its been said

plus, deliver food etc

Now yesterday you asked me to clear off. Do the same please

[jrgbfc]

According to the Guardian Cummings isn't popular at all with the rank and file Tory MPs. I also get the feeling the older, traditional Tory voters won't be that keen on him. Will be interesting to see how the likes of the Daily Mail go tomorrow.

[evensteadiereddie]

I hope he stays, this stink is going to hang around the Tories for a long, long time.

[keith1879]

Another, separate house, just the 3 of them.... Sorry if it wasn't clear enough.

I'm not convinced that you are correct here. I believe that Mr and Mrs Cummings and their son actually stayed in his parents' house (while his parents were there)....but self-isolating in part of that house. No matter how good the isolation there must have been an increased risk that his parents would catch the virus given that Mrs C. was known to be suffering.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

‘Coronavirus scare’??
Probably not how the thousands of families who have lost loved ones would describe it.

[jackmiggins]

If required..perhaps it never was, I don't know if its been said

plus, deliver food etc

Now yesterday you asked me to clear off. Do the same please

Zzzzzzzzzzzzz - you make no sense whatsoever. Bullying doesn’t work with me, and I won’t ‘clear off’ At best, you have been acting as an ‘advocate’ on this thread for your own perverse enjoyment. There is NO defensible argument for your blue bed buddy here. Please expand on your embarrassing explanation to exonerate this faecial person.

[keith1879]

Clearly the coronavirus scare is coming to an end. All the BBC, together with the usual suspects on this thread, can find to get excited about is Cummings. Other than the BBC who report, as one of their headlines, that their Medical Guy has been tested as having had the virus without knowing it. A slow news day other than sadly quit a few people died.

And more will die unless it is very rapidly made clear that we must all (including political advisers) continue to observe the rules.

[Claretincraven]

I'm not convinced that you are correct here. I believe that Mr and Mrs Cummings and their son actually stayed in his parents' house (while his parents were there)....but self-isolating in part of that house. No matter how good the isolation there must have been an increased risk that his parents would catch the virus given that Mrs C. was known to be suffering.

I assume you know the house well?
Or maybe not but you thought you would spout off anyway.

[jackmiggins]

Clearly the coronavirus scare is coming to an end. All the BBC, together with the usual suspects on this thread, can find to get excited about is Cummings. Other than the BBC who report, as one of their headlines, that their Medical Guy has been tested as having had the virus without knowing it. A slow news day other than sadly quit a few people died.

Phishing? - if not........

[Claretincraven]

I hope he stays, this stink is going to hang around the Tories for a long, long time.

It will certainly be a long, long time before your mates get chance to have a go at being in Government again Eddie.
By which time this will all be forgotten.

[jackmiggins]

Clearly there are ‘those’ that believe they should protect their political party on here! I gave up on politics many years ago, so have no axe to grind. SHAME on you.

[ksrclaret]

Clearly the coronavirus scare is coming to an end. All the BBC, together with the usual suspects on this thread, can find to get excited about is Cummings. Other than the BBC who report, as one of their headlines, that their Medical Guy has been tested as having had the virus without knowing it. A slow news day other than sadly quit a few people died.

I think everyone would welcome a slow news day at the moment. Stupid post.

[1HappyClaret]

Ferguson mixed with someone outside his family.

Calderwood made multiple, unnecessary trips to her second home.

You could argue that Cummings’ trip was necessary, under the circumstances, and the actions of a responsible parent. I think I’d do the same under the circumstances.

I’ll change my opinion if there’s some footage of him at a filling station, etc.

Do you think a 4 year old child can travel 260 miles without stopping for the toilet. I don’t think so.

[jackmiggins]

It will certainly be a long, long time before your mates get chance to have a go at being in Government again Eddie.
By which time this will all be forgotten.

I’m stunned by that response - and believe me, that’s unbelievably disturbing!

[Claretincraven]

I think everyone would welcome a slow news day at the moment. Stupid post.

Tip.
Put some of it in capitals like Jack to have more of an impact.

[tiger76]

And more will die unless it is very rapidly made clear that we must all (including political advisers) continue to observe the rules.

Yes that's correct but if the public tuning in to the news observe Dominic Cummings seemingly flouting the rules without any purgatory,then why should they comply.

That'll be the general feeling.

Maybe the rules should have been made clearer from the get go,throughout this whole lockdown period the communications from number 10 have been abysmal.

[ksrclaret]

Tip.
Put some of it in capitals like Jack to have more of an impact.

Sorry. STUPID POST.

[jackmiggins]

Couldn’t possibly have an impact on your Walnut sized brain.

[BurningBeard]

Hmmm...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... own-claims

[Claretincraven]

:

Sorry. STUPID POST.

[Claretincraven]

Couldn’t possibly have an impact on your Walnut sized brain.

[Grumps]

I'm not convinced that you are correct here. I believe that Mr and Mrs Cummings and their son actually stayed in his parents' house (while his parents were there)....but self-isolating in part of that house. No matter how good the isolation there must have been an increased risk that his parents would catch the virus given that Mrs C. was known to be suffering.

Just going off what I heard, that it was a house separate from any other and they never came in contact with his parents during isolation

[evensteadiereddie]

It will certainly be a long, long time before your mates get chance to have a go at being in Government again Eddie.
By which time this will all be forgotten.

Which "mates" are you talking about, craven ? You don't have to support any particular party to have contempt for this present government treating its people like morons. They seem to be staggering from one home-made crisis to the next.

You do, however, have to support a particular party to find an excuse, any excuse, for Cummings' behaviour. Or be blind. Or stupid. Or both.

[ksrclaret]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... n-22075857

Few witnesses now coming forward to suggest he was out and about up in Durham too.

Boy, I do love a slow news day.

[CombatClaret]

Hmmm...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... own-claims

It was also his mother's birthday that month.

[jackmiggins]

Obviously a greater brain and intellect than us. Think the gov’t has to nip this one in the bud now. Just waiting for news regarding Boris crazy golfing in Eastbourne.

[BurningBeard]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... n-22075857

Few witnesses now coming forward to suggest he was out and about up in Durham too.

Boy, I do love a slow news day.

It's almost as though the press have had this up their sleeve all along...

[jackmiggins]

It's almost as though the press have had this up their sleeve all along...

I’m a cynic, but doubt very, very much that they’d have waited this long to unleash this unforgivable activity.

[NewClaret]

Taking a child that is probably infected to his Sister’s house, with Niece??? Get real.

Don’t think he said that. I think he said close to his sister and niece.

[CombatClaret]

It's almost as though the press have had this up their sleeve all along...

Like when the Torygraph, Mail & Sun ran the Neil Ferguson story the very same day the UK overtook Italy as having the highest death toll in Europe?

[NewClaret]

It's almost as though the press have had this up their sleeve all along...

Find it very, very odd that the press didn’t know the location of such a high-profile person as Cummings. Not like they don’t know where he lives in London.

[Grumps]

I'm not convinced that you are correct here. I believe that Mr and Mrs Cummings and their son actually stayed in his parents' house (while his parents were there)....but self-isolating in part of that house. No matter how good the isolation there must have been an increased risk that his parents would catch the virus given that Mrs C. was known to be suffering.

I've Just read the No 10 statement again. Definitely a separate house away from family

I guess that won't matter if its true he's been seen 30 miles away walking

Like I said, if he's broken the rules sack him. Strange thing is he'll probably get sacked for walking in the bluebells, not anything else.

[ksrclaret]

Find it very, very odd that the press didn’t know the location of such a high-profile person as Cummings. Not like they don’t know where he lives in London.

Well the government told everyone he was isolating in his London home.

So I presume they are guilty of believing the government’s lie.

[Claretincraven]

Which "mates" are you talking about, craven ? You don't have to support any particular party to have contempt for this present government treating its people like morons. They seem to be staggering from one home-made crisis to the next.

You do, however, have to support a particular party to find an excuse, any excuse, for Cummings' behaviour. Or be blind. Or stupid. Or both.

I am completely apolitical. I believe whichever party had been in power that mistakes would have been made, mainly because no one had any experience of this sort of thing. I haven't seen the Government treating "its" people like morons. I have seen many people jumping onto a forum supposedly associated with football to espouse clearly political opinions of all types. And frankly it pissez me off to the extent I have avoided this site for a bit now.
And I guess quite a few others when you see this is the most active post and it is overwhelmed by a handful of people. I hope you are all happy, me I have just about had enough of it all.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

I think going to look at bluebells in a wood 260 miles away is classed as essential travel If you are using common sense.

[NewClaret]

Like when the Torygraph, Mail & Sun ran the Neil Ferguson story the very same day the UK overtook Italy as having the highest death toll in Europe?

Didn’t every paper run it at the same time?

Genuine question - what would the Tory press have against Ferguson?

[BurningBeard]

I’m a cynic, but doubt very, very much that they’d have waited this long to unleash this unforgivable activity.

I'm just wondering whether they've decided to see how many knots the govt could get themselves in over the last 24 hours before revealing this extra detail.

[Grumps]

Don’t think he said that. I think he said close to his sister and niece.

Jack doesn't let the truth get in the way of a good rant

[jackmiggins]

Comfuldaddled info to confuse you poor poppoduddles? Yes sure. Bedooddle the bedazzled - not difficult, from this thread. Please remember to breath in out after you’ve breathed in .........good grief!!!

[NewClaret]

Well the government told everyone he was isolating in his London home.

So I presume they are guilty of believing the government’s lie.

What proof do you have to support this statement? I wasn’t aware that the Government issues the whereabouts of its employees to the media/public?

[NewClaret]

I've Just read the No 10 statement again. Definitely a separate house away from family

I guess that won't matter if its true he's been seen 30 miles away walking

Like I said, if he's broken the rules sack him. Strange thing is he'll probably get sacked for walking in the bluebells, not anything else.

Definitely a completely separate house.

[chadders]

We don't know whether he came into contact with his folks or not. Doesn't really matter. They set the rules and they should lead. Its called leadership and its been lacking. If my boss tells me not to do something and he goes and does it he's hardly going to gain much respect. I don't give two hoots about what the colour of the party in power are. We've been consistantly lied to, leadership has been woefully inept. Chuff me, I just want our leaders to get it right and give folk some respect, equality, openess and honesty. Its painful to watch how they're winging it. Jeez.

[jackmiggins]

Jack doesn't let the truth get in the way of a good rant

???

[ksrclaret]

What proof do you have to support this statement? I wasn’t aware that the Government issues the whereabouts of its employees to the media/public?

Apologies, just searched again and it appeared the Financial Times were the ones who said it.

Thought it had come from a government briefing but on second viewing that is not clear.

[tiger76]

Clearly there are ‘those’ that believe they should protect their political party on here! I gave up on politics many years ago, so have no axe to grind. SHAME on you.

I don't have a political party i'll vote as i see fit at the time,last couple of elections I've voted Tory,but i could easily switch to Labour or another next time,although i vote i'm realistic and don't expect miracles,but what i can't abide is rank hypocrisy and that's what's being displayed by Cummings and the government.

How anybody can defend his actions with a straight face baffles me,but there's some so tribal on here that they'll defend either side even when it's clear they're in the wrong.

I wouldn't mind but Cummings isn't even elected,so he can't be held accountable by the public,however the government can,and they'd be wise to be aware of that,the longer this drags on the worse the government look.

[jackmiggins]

Definitely a completely separate house.

But the same People - understand??? Infection is from people - simples.

[NewClaret]

According to the Guardian Cummings isn't popular at all with the rank and file Tory MPs. I also get the feeling the older, traditional Tory voters won't be that keen on him. Will be interesting to see how the likes of the Daily Mail go tomorrow.

Said before, and will say it again, there will be plenty of Tories who hate him because of the influence he holds. Their are plenty of jealous people about in life.

Daily Mail will tear in to Cummings - no doubt. They’re not pro-Tory as people suggest. They’ll do anything to sell papers or get clicks.

[NewClaret]

But the same People - understand??? Infection is from people - simples.

Eh? He stayed with his wife and son in a house in Durham.

[FactualFrank]

My speakers need putting on charge, so not heard this yet. Is it worth a listen? A friend posted it who doesn't believe it's a dangerous virus and there's no need to ever self-isolate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgP_Au5RZVw

[Bordeauxclaret]

Well this has all got a bit embarrassing