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Re: Covid-19

Post by tiger76 » Sun May 24, 2020 4:41 pm

Anyway time i started posting good news on here.

Death toll in Spain rises by 70

Spain has released it's latest daily figures with another 70 deaths reported over the past 24 hours.

The increase takes the overall coronavirus death toll in Spain to 28,752.

It is a slight increase on yesterday's daily total of 48 but is the eighth day in a row the daily death number has been below 100.

At the peak of the virus the daily death toll in Spain was as high as 950.

It comes as restrictions have been eased across much of the country and will be softened further in Barcelona and Madrid on Monday.

Venice Film Festival to go ahead

The Venice Film festival will go ahead as scheduled in September, the local governor has announced.

The decision comes as the coronavirus outbreak slows in Italy - once the epicentre of the pandemic.

Fewer productions than usual are likely to be in attendance due to lockdown measures on the film industry across the globe.

Italy plans to lift all travel restrictions from 3 June. On Sunday it recorded 119 deaths from Covid-19, a number drastically down from its peak in March.

Even New York is seeing rapid progression

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52786342

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Re: Covid-19

Post by joey13 » Sun May 24, 2020 4:42 pm

android wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 3:35 pm
If we are interested in the truth then it seems the revised Durham police statement suggests that it is Cummings/Govt who are telling the truth and it was Durham police who were initially misleading the public (at best or arguably being untruthful). It turns out that it was Cummings's father who initiated contact with the police and not the other way around. And the police now say that the purpose of the call was to discuss security and there is no longer any mention of lockdown rules being discussed.
Oh do pay attention and try thinking before posting it helps in the long run

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Re: Covid-19

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sun May 24, 2020 4:48 pm

It would be quite fitting if they stuck by him and then the reporters release their third part of the story straight after.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by CombatClaret » Sun May 24, 2020 4:54 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 4:36 pm
I'll wait and see what he states in the press conference,but if he stands by Cummings,when numerous Conservative MP'S are openly calling for him to go,then he'd better be certain of the facts,because if he's found to be lying later on he'll be causing huge issues for the government he leads.
There's already been plenty of lies, changed tune more times than an ADHD kid with an iPod Shuffle.
That the PM is sticking by him just shows how corrupt this Us & Them government is.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by Billy Balfour » Sun May 24, 2020 4:56 pm

Another 5G mobile phone mast has been torched in Derbyshire. It follows more than 50 incidents nationwide, believed to be linked to false claims the 5G network is spreading coronavirus.

Gullible people who perpetuate idiotic conspiracy theories on the internet really do have a lot to answer for. It's the same with those antivaxxers.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun May 24, 2020 5:01 pm

Interesting to read Oxford vaccine project leader Prof Adrian Hill is feeling pessimistic about their vaccine.

He fears there simply won't be enough virus in the community for the volunteers to get infected in the trial.

The virus is on the wane.

Great tweet by the Professor Karol Sikora

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Re: Covid-19

Post by Zlatan » Sun May 24, 2020 5:04 pm

How can anyone trust this government ever again?

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Re: Covid-19

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sun May 24, 2020 5:05 pm

Is this why the changed the slogan from Stay Home?

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Re: Covid-19

Post by Billy Balfour » Sun May 24, 2020 5:06 pm

I thought TMay was weak, but the Poundshop Churchill really take the biscuit. He's making himself a laughingstock.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by Billy Balfour » Sun May 24, 2020 5:07 pm

One rule for them and another one for the rest of us. Know thy place.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by tiger76 » Sun May 24, 2020 5:11 pm

Thank god we've finally got a sensible opposition to vote for next time,this bunch of Arthur Daley's and Del Boy's need to go,they'll not be getting my vote next time.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by CombatClaret » Sun May 24, 2020 5:13 pm

Seeking the 'right kind' of childcare... were about to become incapacitated... no alternative...
Acted responsibly, legally, with integrity and with the overall aim of stopping the spread of the virus!!??

What a joke.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by Billy Balfour » Sun May 24, 2020 5:17 pm

Weak as **** leadership.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by bfcjg » Sun May 24, 2020 5:17 pm

Johnsons blind loyalty to Cummings will cost him his job eventually. If labour get their act together and move to the centre ground they will walk the next election.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by KLClaret » Sun May 24, 2020 5:17 pm

I want to live in a different country. What a fu@@ing joke
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Re: Covid-19

Post by Billy Balfour » Sun May 24, 2020 5:20 pm

He must have some hold over Johnson. This evening there will be many more Tory MPs calling for Cummings to be sacked. Their inboxes will be full of people complaining about double standards.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by NewClaret » Sun May 24, 2020 5:20 pm

Backs him.

This is going to be fun :lol: :lol:

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Re: Covid-19

Post by Billy Balfour » Sun May 24, 2020 5:21 pm

KLClaret wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 5:17 pm
I want to live in a different country. What a fu@@ing joke
You aren't alone. I feel exactly the same.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by AlargeClaret » Sun May 24, 2020 5:22 pm

Cummings is either 100% telling the truth or Boris could be in serious trouble imo

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Re: Covid-19

Post by tiger76 » Sun May 24, 2020 5:22 pm

Incapacitated but they and the child could manage a 250m+ drive,if the situation was so severe i'm sure somebody in their local neighbourhood could have assisted,not ideal but a far better option than going up the motorway,what if either or both had became ill in the vehicle,although if accounts are to be believed his wife already had CV symptoms,so she shouldn't have been leaving the house anyway.

Something's not adding up here,and i'm good with mental arithmetic.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by CombatClaret » Sun May 24, 2020 5:26 pm

Boris Johnson giving a lecture about what fathers should do :roll: :roll:
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Re: Covid-19

Post by Swizzlestick » Sun May 24, 2020 5:27 pm

I would imagine Starmer can’t believe his luck.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by tiger76 » Sun May 24, 2020 5:27 pm

Billy Balfour wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 5:20 pm
He must have some hold over Johnson. This evening there will be many more Tory MPs calling for Cummings to be sacked. Their inboxes will be full of people complaining about double standards.
If reports are correct there already is plenty of the electorate not enamoured by these proceedings,i doubt the PM'S words will pacify them.

And the Conservatives need to remember many of those northern seats were won with slim majorities,Burnley for example was about 1,500 i think,it wouldn't take a huge anti-government swing and a lot of those said MP'S will be out on their ar**.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by CombatClaret » Sun May 24, 2020 5:28 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 5:22 pm
Incapacitated but they and the child could manage a 250m+ drive,if the situation was so severe i'm sure somebody in their local neighbourhood could have assisted,not ideal but a far better option than going up the motorway,what if either or both had became ill in the vehicle,although if accounts are to be believed his wife already had CV symptoms,so she shouldn't have been leaving the house anyway.

Something's not adding up here,and i'm good with mental arithmetic.
"Before they were incapacitated", they were physic. Press just said that as I type :lol:
No answer.
His objective was to stop the spread :lol: :lol:

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Re: Covid-19

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sun May 24, 2020 5:31 pm

Boris currently throwing himself under the bus on live TV.

Incredible stuff.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by Whitgord » Sun May 24, 2020 5:31 pm

I am sick to death of the hounding by the media. I don’t really care if Cummings did wrong or not. The focus has been taken off much more important topics such as whether or not people are being given enough notice about their businesses being able to operate. Whether schools can get going. It is just crazy to spend all this time discussing one issue. What about all the people swanning about on the beaches miles from home. It was great in the early days of this pandemic when everyone was pulling together but it hasn’t taken long for the old blame games to start again. Why do we always have to look for things being somebody’s fault. We all make mistakes. Get over it and move on. Rant over
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Re: Covid-19

Post by Billy Balfour » Sun May 24, 2020 5:32 pm

This press conference is car crash stuff for Johnson.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by tiger76 » Sun May 24, 2020 5:32 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 5:27 pm
I would imagine Starmer can’t believe his luck.
Give me a lucky general any day,Starmer needs to tread carefully though,he doesn't want to be seen to be gloating,thus far he doesn't seem the type to play party politics for the sake of it,the best thing for Keir Starmer to do is nothing apart from ask searching questions at PMQ'S and let the PM trip himself up.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by FactualFrank » Sun May 24, 2020 5:33 pm

Did anybody see Robert Peston on the screen as he was cut short to move onto somebody else. He looked flabbergasted

And then he cut short the other chap who's audio wasn't working initially :lol:

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Re: Covid-19

Post by Whitgord » Sun May 24, 2020 5:35 pm

I agree that Robert Peston looked well annoyed

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Re: Covid-19

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sun May 24, 2020 5:35 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 5:33 pm
Did anybody see Robert Peston on the screen as he was cut short to move onto somebody else. He looked flabbergasted

And then he cut short the other chap who's audio wasn't working initially :lol:
To be honest though, Peston made Garth Crooks' questioning style seem concise.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sun May 24, 2020 5:35 pm

Wow. Can’t believe what I’m watching.

How anyone can vote for this government again is beyond me.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by Billy Balfour » Sun May 24, 2020 5:38 pm

Johnson is getting a battering. No matter what you think of them, neither Blair or Cameron would have put themselves in this position.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sun May 24, 2020 5:39 pm

Worst prime minister in my lifetime, including the last one.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by Grumps » Sun May 24, 2020 5:39 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 5:32 pm
Give me a lucky general any day,Starmer needs to tread carefully though,he doesn't want to be seen to be gloating,thus far he doesn't seem the type to play party politics for the sake of it,the best thing for Keir Starmer to do is nothing apart from ask searching questions at PMQ'S and let the PM trip himself up.
No way am I a labour supporter, but they are doing exactly the right thing. Get the evidence, see where that leads and decide what action to take as a result. Very clear they have a barrister in charge.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by android » Sun May 24, 2020 5:40 pm

joey13 wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 4:42 pm
Oh do pay attention and try thinking before posting it helps in the long run
Great advice Joey. What was your problem with my post?

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Re: Covid-19

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sun May 24, 2020 5:40 pm

PMQs next week should be good viewing.

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Post by ksrclaret » Sun May 24, 2020 5:41 pm

This country is absolutely f-u-cked. Totally and utterly. Incompetence, negligence, u turns, back tracking, arse covering, rule-rewriting and blatant lies are the order of the day from the government.

Hey, but Corbyn wouldn’t have been much better, so it’s all okay really.

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Post by Zlatan » Sun May 24, 2020 5:41 pm

“Dominic Cummings followed the instincts of every parent”

I’m a parent, please don’t say that my instincts would be to endanger my child’s life (or my own) my confining myself to a small space with someone who is suffering with Covid-19. My parental instincts would have been to stay at home and see it through, and if it got to the point where I could not look after my child I would have made arrangements for someone to collect my child.

This is a really bad dream isn’t it...

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Re: Covid-19

Post by tiger76 » Sun May 24, 2020 5:41 pm

Analysis: Have Johnson and Cummings judged the public mood correctly?

Nick Eardley

Political correspondent

It strikes me Boris Johnson is taking a political gamble here; that the public will understand his decision or aren’t that bothered by a "Westminster row".

Indeed, Mr Johnson and Mr Cummings are seen as political operators who can judge the public mood well.

But many - including several Tory MPs - think they’ve got this wrong. They believe the public does care and see it as one rule for us, one rule for them.



I don't think they have,this isn't just a WM bubble row,and the public do care if influential people are seen to be taking the pi**

Also when many people have made a lot of personal sacrifices during this outbreak,and adhered to the rules,it'll stick in their craws that Cummings can apparently behave with impunity.

Cummings and Johnson better hope there isn't any more revelations to emerge from this episode.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by NewClaret » Sun May 24, 2020 5:41 pm

Whitgord wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 5:31 pm
I am sick to death of the hounding by the media. I don’t really care if Cummings did wrong or not. The focus has been taken off much more important topics such as whether or not people are being given enough notice about their businesses being able to operate. Whether schools can get going. It is just crazy to spend all this time discussing one issue. What about all the people swanning about on the beaches miles from home. It was great in the early days of this pandemic when everyone was pulling together but it hasn’t taken long for the old blame games to start again. Why do we always have to look for things being somebody’s fault. We all make mistakes. Get over it and move on. Rant over
My wife, who has no interest in politics, didn’t even know this had happened. When I explained she said “is that really the most important thing at the moment?” Suspect many feel the same.

Media just smell a bigger story and whip it in to a frenzy.
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Post by Grumps » Sun May 24, 2020 5:42 pm

Billy Balfour wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 5:38 pm
Johnson is getting a battering. No matter what you think of them, neither Blair or Cameron would have put themselves in this position.
Battering? Really... He just answered how he wanted to. Nobody slipped him up, nobody produced any contrary evidence. Had they done, that would have been a battering

Wait till PMQs, that may well be.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by nyclaret » Sun May 24, 2020 5:42 pm

KLClaret wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 5:17 pm
I want to live in a different country. What a fu@@ing joke
As soon as it is safe to do so, I am out of here!

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Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Sun May 24, 2020 5:44 pm

That was a quite terrible briefing today. Johnson must take a majority of the country for mugs. Lie after lie after lie today.

Frankly pathetic
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Post by Zlatan » Sun May 24, 2020 5:45 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 5:41 pm
My wife, who has no interest in politics, didn’t even know this had happened. When I explained she said “is that really the most important thing at the moment?” Suspect many feel the same.

Media just smell a bigger story and whip it in to a frenzy.
The fact that this story is already detracting the government from doing its actual job is justification enough to sack the bloke for breaking the rules!

Or don’t you see that?
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Post by nil_desperandum » Sun May 24, 2020 5:45 pm

Whitgord wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 5:31 pm
I am sick to death of the hounding by the media. I don’t really care if Cummings did wrong or not. The focus has been taken off much more important topics such as whether or not people are being given enough notice about their businesses being able to operate. Whether schools can get going. It is just crazy to spend all this time discussing one issue. What about all the people swanning about on the beaches miles from home. It was great in the early days of this pandemic when everyone was pulling together but it hasn’t taken long for the old blame games to start again. Why do we always have to look for things being somebody’s fault. We all make mistakes. Get over it and move on. Rant over
I find that post odd. I agree that people are irresponsible by being on the beaches (IMO) but appear to be within the guidance that Johnson gave us when he relaxed the rules and said that we could travel. Cummings however made a totally unnecessary - and arguably dangerous - 260 mile trip when we were supposed to be all staying at home. And yet you "don't care" about Cummings' actions whilst being highly critical of those on the beach. With the PMs statement in the past half hour giving support to his adviser, those visiting parks and beaches will feel even more justified than before.
And what about the parents who couldn't attend the funeral of their own child due to the "stay at home" guidelines? How will they feel listening to our Prime Minister give his unreserved support to Cummings in the briefing?
No wonder Tory MPs are up in arms.
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Post by NewClaret » Sun May 24, 2020 5:46 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 5:41 pm
Analysis: Have Johnson and Cummings judged the public mood correctly?

Nick Eardley

Political correspondent

It strikes me Boris Johnson is taking a political gamble here; that the public will understand his decision or aren’t that bothered by a "Westminster row".

Indeed, Mr Johnson and Mr Cummings are seen as political operators who can judge the public mood well.

But many - including several Tory MPs - think they’ve got this wrong. They believe the public does care and see it as one rule for us, one rule for them.



I don't think they have,this isn't just a WM bubble row,and the public do care if influential people are seen to be taking the pi**

Also when many people have made a lot of personal sacrifices during this outbreak,and adhered to the rules,it'll stick in their craws that Cummings can apparently behave with impunity.

Cummings and Johnson better hope there isn't any more revelations to emerge from this episode.
BBC said before the briefing that further revelations are expected in the Cummings days. Going to be interesting.

Brave by Boris to back him so public ally and so early, but with 4 years to go until the next election, this will be long forgotten.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by Zlatan » Sun May 24, 2020 5:47 pm

Grumps wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 5:42 pm
Battering? Really... He just answered how he wanted to. Nobody slipped him up, nobody produced any contrary evidence. Had they done, that would have been a battering

Wait till PMQs, that may well be.
He bumbled along and didn’t answer any of the questions. Massive f#ck up if you ask me, should’ve binned off Cummings knowing he could bring him back once the dust settles. It really does make me wonder what Cummings has on Johnson - our democracy is at stake here.
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Re: Covid-19

Post by tiger76 » Sun May 24, 2020 5:48 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 5:41 pm
This country is absolutely f-u-cked. Totally and utterly. Incompetence, negligence, u turns, back tracking, arse covering, rule-rewriting and blatant lies are the order of the day from the government.

Hey, but Corbyn wouldn’t have been much better, so it’s all okay really.
Yes but Corbyn isn't around any more,there's a grown-up in charge of the Labour party now,plus the Conservatives other big vote winner brexit won't resonate in 4 years,either we'll have a deal and be doing ok economically or we'll crash out with a no deal and it'll all go pete tong.

Either scenario doesn't help the government,first one's obviously preferable,but in either case they'll be far more pressing matters for the public to cast their votes on.

And no Corbyn wouldn't have been any better.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by NewClaret » Sun May 24, 2020 5:48 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 5:45 pm
The fact that this story is already detracting the government from doing its actual job is justification enough to sack the bloke for breaking the rules!

Or don’t you see that?
Distracting us, perhaps.

It’s been 48hs over a BH weekend. Will be business as normal for the senior ministers on Tuesday.

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