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Re: Covid-19

Post by joey13 » Sun May 24, 2020 11:05 pm

Darthlaw wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 10:56 pm
For balance, you would leave your child in a household with multiple infected persons for 7-14 days? Where there is no option but for someone infected with Covid to feed and care for your child?

I’m not defending him btw, just pointing out the shades of grey, to your black and white.
Cummings didn’t have the virus at the time of the journey if he was that bothered about caring for his son he would have isolated with him , it really is that black and white for balance

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Re: Covid-19

Post by Darthlaw » Sun May 24, 2020 11:06 pm

With family able to come to their aid yards away, as opposed to 200+ miles away, yes.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by joey13 » Sun May 24, 2020 11:08 pm

Darthlaw wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 11:06 pm
With family able to come to their aid yards away, as opposed to 200+ miles away, yes.
You do know his wife’s sister lives 2 streets away from their London home don’t you :roll:

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Re: Covid-19

Post by Spijed » Sun May 24, 2020 11:09 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 10:42 pm
In my many years following politics, I can’t remember anyone triggering as much hate as Cummings. Just an observation.
Alastair Campbell?

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Re: Covid-19

Post by Darthlaw » Sun May 24, 2020 11:10 pm

joey13 wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 11:05 pm
if he was that bothered about caring for his son he would have isolated with him , it really is that black and white for balance
So you would keep your child in a household with multiple people, infected with Covid, fair enough.

I dare say other parents wouldn’t share your view.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by Zlatan » Sun May 24, 2020 11:11 pm

Darthlaw wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 11:10 pm
So you would keep your child in a household with multiple people, infected with Covid, fair enough.

I dare say other parents wouldn’t share your view.
Other parents didn’t have a choice

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Re: Covid-19

Post by joey13 » Sun May 24, 2020 11:11 pm

Darthlaw wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 11:10 pm
So you would keep your child in a household with multiple people, infected with Covid, fair enough.

I dare say other parents wouldn’t share your view.
So you’ve just ignored what I posted then , fair enough

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Re: Covid-19

Post by Darthlaw » Sun May 24, 2020 11:12 pm

joey13 wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 11:08 pm
You do know his wife’s sister lives 2 streets away from their London home don’t you :roll:
Was his sister prepared to take that pressure? Does she have kids of her own? I assume you know all this for certain being the man’s apparent stalker? :roll:

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Re: Covid-19

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sun May 24, 2020 11:12 pm

Darthlaw wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 11:10 pm
So you would keep your child in a household with multiple people, infected with Covid, fair enough.

I dare say other parents wouldn’t share your view.
Rest of the country haven’t had a choice.
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Re: Covid-19

Post by Darthlaw » Sun May 24, 2020 11:13 pm

Jeez, I’ve disturbed the circle jerk. Back to your vinegar strokes, peeps.

The one with the balanced view will shut up now.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by joey13 » Sun May 24, 2020 11:14 pm

Darthlaw wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 11:12 pm
Was his sister prepared to take that pressure? Does she have kids of her own? I assume you know all this for certain being the man’s apparent stalker? :roll:
THIS
Cummings didn’t have the virus at the time of the journey if he was that bothered about caring for his son he would have isolated with him , it really is that black and white for balance

Oh and you don’t want to defend him , ok

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Re: Covid-19

Post by tiger76 » Sun May 24, 2020 11:15 pm

AndrewJB wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 10:19 pm
Hahaha! You think someone who actually cares about people would have got it worse? I think we’d have taken earlier measures and saved way more lives. And come out of the lockdown earlier, also saving the economy.

Johnson has done so poorly already, I’d be interested in your thoughts on how Corbyn could have possibly been worse.
We'll never know how Corbyn would've managed this crisis,but it's possible that the UK might not have gone down the herd mentality route which we initially pursued,and now we've seen the devastation that policy and the vital time wasted inflicted on our elderly demographic in particular.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by Darthlaw » Sun May 24, 2020 11:15 pm

You’d leave your kids in harms way,Joey, given alternatives to take them out of it. I get it.

Agree to disagree?
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Re: Covid-19

Post by Zlatan » Sun May 24, 2020 11:16 pm

Darthlaw wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 11:12 pm
Was his sister prepared to take that pressure? Does she have kids of her own? I assume you know all this for certain being the man’s apparent stalker? :roll:
It is clearly much more sensible to enforce a small child with autism to sit in an enclosed space for 6 hours with a sufferer of Covid-19 and relocate said child with autism to unfamiliar surroundings than to isolate the sufferer in their own residence ensuring the child with autism remains safe in their familiar environment. Of course it is...

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Re: Covid-19

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun May 24, 2020 11:17 pm

Darthlaw wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 11:12 pm
Was his sister prepared to take that pressure? Does she have kids of her own? I assume you know all this for certain being the man’s apparent stalker? :roll:
Well for Cummings to break the rules this must have been established so give us the proof that they had no support network in London then you have a point.

The onus is on you not us to justify why they didn't stay in London as per his own govt guidelines

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Re: Covid-19

Post by Darthlaw » Sun May 24, 2020 11:19 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 11:17 pm
Well for Cummings to break the rules this must have been established so give us the proof that they had no support network in London then you have a point.

The onus is on you not us to justify why they didn't stay in London as per his own govt guidelines
Why would I do that? I’m not defending him. Just asking questions.

You seem to know for a fact his sister was able to provide backup, so I’ll have to take your word for it.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by joey13 » Sun May 24, 2020 11:22 pm

Darthlaw wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 11:15 pm
You’d leave your kids in harms way,Joey, given alternatives to take them out of it. I get it.

Agree to disagree?
That’s not what I posted , twice , you clearly aren’t getting it

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Re: Covid-19

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun May 24, 2020 11:25 pm

Darthlaw wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 11:19 pm
Why would I do that? I’m not defending him. Just asking questions.

You seem to know for a fact his sister was able to provide backup, so I’ll have to take your word for it.
Im stating the onus is om Cummings and those defending him to provide reasonable proof that he didn't have the support in London that made it a threat of life to his child

I only know he had family and friends in London but if there was a genuine reason they could not provide backup then lets hear it because until we do he's gone to Durham through choice rather than necessity

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Re: Covid-19

Post by NewClaret » Sun May 24, 2020 11:29 pm

Grumps wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 6:12 pm
I wouldn't bet the guardian have any more. If they have, it will come soon.
Changing my mind on this Grumps.

If they did have more, I suspect it’d have come tonight. Keep the heat on.

Also just read the Guardian and the Mirror. Every headline and article is covered in the word “alleged” - clearly covering themselves from a suing.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun May 24, 2020 11:33 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 11:29 pm
Changing my mind on this Grumps.

If they did have more, I suspect it’d have come tonight. Keep the heat on.

Also just read the Guardian and the Mirror. Every headline and article is covered in the word “alleged” - clearly covering themselves from a suing.
Its alleged that Cummings did not break the lockdown rules because there was a threat to life for his child. I haven't seen any proof but as someone defending him can you show me some real evidence that this is true?

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Re: Covid-19

Post by dsr » Sun May 24, 2020 11:35 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 11:25 pm
Im stating the onus is om Cummings and those defending him to provide reasonable proof that he didn't have the support in London that made it a threat of life to his child

I only know he had family and friends in London but if there was a genuine reason they could not provide backup then lets hear it because until we do he's gone to Durham through choice rather than necessity
A genuine reason why they couldn't provide backup? Well, I'm no expert in 4 year old boys, with or without autism. But I suspect looking after one is quite time consuming. Everyone in London (and Durham) has a genuine reason why they could not provide backup; what you are asking for is for them to prove that they were unable to look after the child on a full time basis.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by dsr » Sun May 24, 2020 11:37 pm

Incidentally, there have been a lot of complaints that Cummings shouldn't have been in Barnard Castle, but apart from the plainly untrue one that he should have been selef-isolating (which was not the rule, not if he had had the virus over 7 days and his symptoms had gone) what rule did he break? Was it the "travelling too far for exercise" rule? If so, what was the limit at that time?

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Re: Covid-19

Post by dsr » Sun May 24, 2020 11:39 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 5:22 pm
Incapacitated but they and the child could manage a 250m+ drive,if the situation was so severe i'm sure somebody in their local neighbourhood could have assisted,not ideal but a far better option than going up the motorway,what if either or both had became ill in the vehicle,although if accounts are to be believed his wife already had CV symptoms,so she shouldn't have been leaving the house anyway.

Something's not adding up here,and i'm good with mental arithmetic.
A lot of mothers are fussy about who they leave their child with. "Somebody in their local neighbourhood" won't do.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by ksrclaret » Sun May 24, 2020 11:41 pm

dsr wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 11:37 pm
Incidentally, there have been a lot of complaints that Cummings shouldn't have been in Barnard Castle, but apart from the plainly untrue one that he should have been selef-isolating (which was not the rule, not if he had had the virus over 7 days and his symptoms had gone) what rule did he break? Was it the "travelling too far for exercise" rule? If so, what was the limit at that time?
It wasn't explicit.

However, I think most decent folk recognised that in order to stay home, protect the NHS and save lives; 250+ miles was excessive in the extreme.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun May 24, 2020 11:44 pm

dsr wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 11:35 pm
A genuine reason why they couldn't provide backup? Well, I'm no expert in 4 year old boys, with or without autism. But I suspect looking after one is quite time consuming. Everyone in London (and Durham) has a genuine reason why they could not provide backup; what you are asking for is for them to prove that they were unable to look after the child on a full time basis.
Yes and remember the child would only have to be looked after in the absolute extreme worst case scenario that both parents were so ill they could not care fot the child (Cummings wifes account was that they were both severely ill and bed ridden for 10 days yet they still cared for their child so we are really talking the extremes)

In this extreme situation they need to explain and justify why their London family and close network of freinds could not step in and support. To be fair I would be just happy if they provided evidence why their London family could not have stepped in.

Not much to ask in the circumstances and with the proof being demanded for the additional revaluations around Cummings other Durham activity then I think its only fair your claims should be held to the same standards of proof

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Re: Covid-19

Post by dsr » Sun May 24, 2020 11:45 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 11:41 pm
It wasn't explicit.

However, I think most decent folk recognised that in order to stay home, protect the NHS and save lives; 250+ miles was excessive in the extreme.
25 miles to Barnard Castle.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by ksrclaret » Sun May 24, 2020 11:45 pm

dsr wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 11:45 pm
25 miles to Barnard Castle.
Sorry, 275+ miles then.
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Re: Covid-19

Post by NewClaret » Sun May 24, 2020 11:45 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 11:33 pm
Its alleged that Cummings did not break the lockdown rules because there was a threat to life for his child. I haven't seen any proof but as someone defending him can you show me some real evidence that this is true?
All I want to know is whether any proof of the allegations is going to emerge. I just don’t believe that in a society where everyone has a phone in their pocket, someone wouldn’t have got a picture?

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Re: Covid-19

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun May 24, 2020 11:45 pm

dsr wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 11:37 pm
Incidentally, there have been a lot of complaints that Cummings shouldn't have been in Barnard Castle, but apart from the plainly untrue one that he should have been selef-isolating (which was not the rule, not if he had had the virus over 7 days and his symptoms had gone) what rule did he break? Was it the "travelling too far for exercise" rule? If so, what was the limit at that time?
Yes you should not have been travelling 30 miles to visit a castle in April based on the govt rules in place at the time

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Re: Covid-19

Post by tiger76 » Sun May 24, 2020 11:46 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 11:41 pm
It wasn't explicit.

However, I think most decent folk recognised that in order to stay home, protect the NHS and save lives; 250+ miles was excessive in the extreme.
Maybe the advice wasn't clear enough,but that's been the case throughout this shambles,no clear plan no leadership no PPE no testing strategy,is there anything I've missed out or does that cover it.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun May 24, 2020 11:47 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 11:45 pm
All I want to know is whether any proof of the allegations is going to emerge. I just don’t believe that in a society where everyone has a phone in their pocket, someone wouldn’t have got a picture?
All I want is proof that there was a threat to life for his child by staying London. Looks like we may both be disappointed

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Re: Covid-19

Post by NewClaret » Sun May 24, 2020 11:49 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 11:47 pm
All I want is proof that there was a threat to life for his child by staying London. Looks like we may both be disappointed
Why threat to life, DA?

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Re: Covid-19

Post by dsr » Sun May 24, 2020 11:51 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 11:44 pm
Yes and remember the child would only have to be looked after in the absolute extreme worst case scenario that both parents were so ill they could not care fot the child (Cummings wifes account was that they were both severely ill and bed ridden for 10 days yet they still cared for their child so we are really talking the extremes)

In this extreme situation they need to explain and justify why their London family and close network of freinds could not step in and support. To be fair I would be just happy if they provided evidence why their London family could not have stepped in.

Not much to ask in the circumstances and with the proof being demanded for the additional revaluations around Cummings other Durham activity then I think its only fair your claims should be held to the same standards of proof
So why haven't the press gone and asked them?

And why are you still using knowledge of how ill Ms Wakefield became later, as justification for criticising what Cummings did at the time? Do you believe that finding full time unpaid child care for a 4 year old is an easy thing to do while you are feeling at deaths' door?

Incidentally my claim that a caring full time for a 4 year old boy takes up a huge amount of time, surely doesn't need proof. Ask any parent. And my claim that mothers are sometimes fussy about who they leave their children with, also doesn't need proof. Again, ask any parent. In most cases, finding someone to volunteer to step in and look after a child full time is not easy to do; in many if not most cases, it would be a case of "well, if no-one else is available I suppose I could" rather than a string of willing and eager volunteers.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun May 24, 2020 11:52 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 11:49 pm
Why threat to life, DA?
Cos the caveat to the rules on lockdown was that where there was a real threat to life to a vulnerable person (in this case young child) then it was justifiable to not remain at your main home of residence

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Re: Covid-19

Post by nil_desperandum » Sun May 24, 2020 11:53 pm

One thing not mentioned by anyone - I don't think, but if Cumming's wife was ill with Covid, and Cummings himself potentially ill, (and it was really necessary for them to have the support of that particular branch of the family): would it not have been safer and more sensible for the parents to travel down to London and self-isolate in the Cummings household, rather than for them to transport the virus 260 miles northwards??
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Re: Covid-19

Post by dsr » Sun May 24, 2020 11:54 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 11:47 pm
All I want is proof that there was a threat to life for his child by staying London. Looks like we may both be disappointed
Now that's what you certainly won't find. As someone pointed out further up the thread, they could have rung social services and had him taken into care. As I dare say many parents would agree, better to have your child taken into care than to beak or even come close to breaking the rules of lockdown.

Does the "threat to life" of a 4 year old start when the parents are both incapacitated? Or does it count as a threat when there is only a possibility of both being incapacitated?

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Re: Covid-19

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun May 24, 2020 11:56 pm

dsr wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 11:51 pm
So why haven't the press gone and asked them?

And why are you still using knowledge of how ill Ms Wakefield became later, as justification for criticising what Cummings did at the time? Do you believe that finding full time unpaid child care for a 4 year old is an easy thing to do while you are feeling at deaths' door?

Incidentally my claim that a caring full time for a 4 year old boy takes up a huge amount of time, surely doesn't need proof. Ask any parent. And my claim that mothers are sometimes fussy about who they leave their children with, also doesn't need proof. Again, ask any parent. In most cases, finding someone to volunteer to step in and look after a child full time is not easy to do; in many if not most cases, it would be a case of "well, if no-one else is available I suppose I could" rather than a string of willing and eager volunteers.
I was using how ill they became to show that it would only be in the most extreme circumstances that they would need someone to look after their child.

Ive told you this before but we are in a health crisis with rules in place to protect lives. It isn't about who is best or who you want to look after your child but who is available within the rules of the lockdown.

They had family available in London so to ignore them and go to Durham there must be good reason. All I want to do is see that good reason....dont you???

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Re: Covid-19

Post by BurningBeard » Sun May 24, 2020 11:57 pm

dsr wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 11:37 pm
Incidentally, there have been a lot of complaints that Cummings shouldn't have been in Barnard Castle, but apart from the plainly untrue one that he should have been selef-isolating (which was not the rule, not if he had had the virus over 7 days and his symptoms had gone) what rule did he break? Was it the "travelling too far for exercise" rule? If so, what was the limit at that time?
What does it matter, they're making it up as they go along and retrospectively rewriting it to suit themselves. FWIW, the advice was to take one form of exercise per day, stay local and avoid non essential travel. Was it essential for them to travel 25 miles to Barnard Castle for their exercise or could they have stayed a bit more local?
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Re: Covid-19

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun May 24, 2020 11:58 pm

dsr wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 11:54 pm
Now that's what you certainly won't find. As someone pointed out further up the thread, they could have rung social services and had him taken into care. As I dare say many parents would agree, better to have your child taken into care than to beak or even come close to breaking the rules of lockdown.

Does the "threat to life" of a 4 year old start when the parents are both incapacitated? Or does it count as a threat when there is only a possibility of both being incapacitated?
They could have rung their family members who live within 10 miles. At the very least I want evidence why this wasnt an option

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Re: Covid-19

Post by Jakubclaret » Mon May 25, 2020 12:05 am

nil_desperandum wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 11:53 pm
One thing not mentioned by anyone - I don't think, but if Cumming's wife was ill with Covid, and Cummings himself potentially ill, (and it was really necessary for them to have the support of that particular branch of the family): would it not have been safer and more sensible for the parents to travel down to London and self-isolate in the Cummings household, rather than for them to transport the virus 260 miles northwards??
Well no not really, the point is nobody should have travelling anywhere, had the parents travelled south there would have been exposing themselves to the virus, the whole idea was nobody was supposed to move at all & stay put, no excuses really in his position & even arguing about it results in a deeper hole getting dug.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by Damo » Mon May 25, 2020 12:05 am

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 11:12 pm
Rest of the country haven’t had a choice.
Anybody with a parent living 200 miles away, in cummings situation had exactly the same choice he did.
Had I been in his position and I thought it was in my kids best interest I'd have done the same thing.
So, I'd imagine would most other people.
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Re: Covid-19

Post by Devils_Advocate » Mon May 25, 2020 12:13 am

Damo wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 12:05 am
Anybody with a parent living 200 miles away, in cummings situation had exactly the same choice he did.
Had I been in his position and I thought it was in my kids best interest I'd have done the same thing.
So, I'd imagine would most other people.
So you have a sick wife and a child to protect and look after. Do you bundle them all in the confined space of a car for several hours to isolate together in a unfamiliar property or do you stay put and look after them in you own home where you have everything set up to best serve your family

Bearing in mind they had family support within London if it was your decision and your child which option would you take?

Lets just be clear there is no evidence to suggest that Cummings actions were in the interests of his child rather than his own self interests

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Re: Covid-19

Post by dsr » Mon May 25, 2020 12:15 am

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 11:58 pm
They could have rung their family members who live within 10 miles. At the very least I want evidence why this wasnt an option
You, presumably, would happily take on the responsibility of caring full time for a 4 year old relative at short notice, giving up your job for the duration. Well done you. You are an exception.

If my hypothetical relative from Burnley asked me to look after their four year old boy on a full time basis for an indeterminate period, I would very much refer them to my sister in Durham (yes, really) who is far better qualified to look after a small boy than I am.

If evidence from the Cummings and Wakefield relatives is needed, then ask for those particular personal details from those relatives. And you might also bear in mind that Cummings and Wakefield were probably (as is the way of parents) looking for the best option, not just any acceptable option; so the sensible question to ask is why they thought Durham was the best option, not why London wasn't an option. London probably was an option; just not the best one.

Bear in mind that to take the child to another address in London would have been just as grievous a breach of law, if it was a breach. (Unless the law gets tested in court, we don't know whehter this trip would have counted as "reasonable".) Even next door would have been against the rules.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by cblantfanclub » Mon May 25, 2020 12:16 am

Comment on the HIGNFY page:

"Don’t judge, quite believable that not a single person in London can stand Cummings enough to want to even take care of his sprog."

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Re: Covid-19

Post by dsr » Mon May 25, 2020 12:17 am

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 12:13 am
Bearing in mind they had family support within London if it was your decision and your child which option would you take?
How good was the family support, how well did they know the child, how many hours a day were they willing to look after him for?

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Re: Covid-19

Post by Devils_Advocate » Mon May 25, 2020 12:23 am

dsr wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 12:15 am
You, presumably, would happily take on the responsibility of caring full time for a 4 year old relative at short notice, giving up your job for the duration. Well done you. You are an exception.

If my hypothetical relative from Burnley asked me to look after their four year old boy on a full time basis for an indeterminate period, I would very much refer them to my sister in Durham (yes, really) who is far better qualified to look after a small boy than I am.

If evidence from the Cummings and Wakefield relatives is needed, then ask for those particular personal details from those relatives. And you might also bear in mind that Cummings and Wakefield were probably (as is the way of parents) looking for the best option, not just any acceptable option; so the sensible question to ask is why they thought Durham was the best option, not why London wasn't an option. London probably was an option; just not the best one.

Bear in mind that to take the child to another address in London would have been just as grievous a breach of law, if it was a breach. (Unless the law gets tested in court, we don't know whehter this trip would have counted as "reasonable".) Even next door would have been against the rules.
Yes if my family members were hospitalised leaving a young child to look after I wouldnt have to even think about whether Id look after them

If London was an option then it doesn't matter whether they though Durham was a better option because there was no threat to life and so Cummings has broken his govts own rules

The child would have stayed with them as it did in Durham but had they both been hospitalised the family in London could have taken care of the child and that would not have broken any rules

Jesus your practically arguing my point for me
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Re: Covid-19

Post by Devils_Advocate » Mon May 25, 2020 12:26 am

dsr wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 12:17 am
How good was the family support, how well did they know the child, how many hours a day were they willing to look after him for?
Thats what I want to know. Cummings must have assessed this before deciding to go to Durham so those defending him please provide this info because until you do there is no evidence to support that their trip to Durham was justified because of a threat to life for their child

Come on DSR you normally demand good evidence but all of a sudden you are happy to just take Cummings word

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Re: Covid-19

Post by Damo » Mon May 25, 2020 12:28 am

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 12:13 am
So you have a sick wife and a child to protect and look after. Do you bundle them all in the confined space of a car for several hours to isolate together in a unfamiliar property or do you stay put and look after them in you own home where you have everything set up to best serve your family

Bearing in mind they had family support within London if it was your decision and your child which option would you take?

Lets just be clear there is no evidence to suggest that Cummings actions were in the interests of his child rather than his own self interests
Personally, well I'm not sure what I would have done. At this moment in time I'd ride it out with my kids at home. A month ago I might have done something completely different. I remember being frightened about the situation mid march. What would you have done?

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Re: Covid-19

Post by Barry_Chuckle » Mon May 25, 2020 12:28 am

6 hours or so in a car, I'd be very surprised is a comfort break wasn't had. Surely that is bringing danger to the public, hence the instruction to stay home and self isolate.

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Re: Covid-19

Post by Devils_Advocate » Mon May 25, 2020 12:35 am

Damo wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 12:28 am
Personally, well I'm not sure what I would have done. At this moment in time I'd ride it out with my kids at home. A month ago I might have done something completely different. I remember being frightened about the situation mid march. What would you have done?
I would do my best to look after my wife and child in our own home whilst taking as many measures as possible to stay safe and isolate my child from my wife

My contingency would have been to ensure the closest family member possible would be available to come to me and collect my child if needed

Im not saying this to prove a point but no way would I have considered lumping us all in a car and going to stay in someone elses house at the other end of the country

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