Covid-19

[Zlatan]

Requiring a mask 4 months into the pandemic is like bringing condoms to a baby shower...


Not my own work, stolen from instatwitface...

[Grumps]

Requiring a mask 4 months into the pandemic is like bringing condoms to a baby shower...


Not my own work, stolen from instatwitface...

France are waiting till 1st August...

[joey13]

You'd better tell the scientists then, you obviously are far more well informed than they are.

Didn’t they say Autumn,
Same scientists said face masks were useless , you keep on believing
Oh and didn’t you slag me off about the second wave

[cricketfieldclarets]

People are criticising the mask situation but think of it this way.

We are consistently driving the figures down. (down again today week on week). Its not at a very low number and easy to manage situation. Bringing masks in when its dropped further serves two benefits.

1) It may eliminate transmission full stop at what is already a low level
2) It gets us used to it should thinks creep up in winter and helps bring in good practice

Its not permanent. Its not everywhere And it helps give vulnerable people more confidence to go into shops (when in reality there is very low risk).

Its only a temporary measure and hopefully will help us prevent lockdown 2. Id sooner wear a mask for a short period in limited settings than go back into full lockdown!

[Grumps]

Didn’t they say Autumn,
Same scientists said face masks were useless , you keep on believing
Oh and didn’t you slag me off about the second wave

Second wave?

[joey13]

It would be some conspiracy if the 'powers that be' are trying to convince us that there is a vaccine when there isn't:

• It would involve a good number of pharmaceutical companies - many of whom are in competition with each other -Why would they want to fail? Wouldn't the production of a successful vaccine do wonders for future business and reputation as a world leader.

• Several World governments would be conspiring with the story or at least peddling the same story by coincidence.

• Most of the worlds top Universities would need to be in on the conspiracy.

• What has anyone got to gain by peddling the story that there may be a vaccine when there is no chance of one for ten years?

• The worlds press would need to be involved or at least silenced.

How’s the Herpes vaccine coming along
How about one for HIV/Aids ?
You keep believing the propaganda if it makes you happy

[joey13]

Second wave?

America for starters

[Grumps]

America for starters

Sorry, you've totally lost me

[cricketfieldclarets]

How’s the Herpes vaccine coming along
How about one for HIV/Aids ?
You keep believing the propaganda if it makes you happy

Totally different viruses.

There are preventative measures for HIV And Aids and Herpes doesnt have a valid case for investing in a vaccine.

Every science, medical and research organisation is putting all of its possible efforts into this one. Along with huge collaberation.

[joey13]

Second wave in America ,California going into another lockdown while Trump stills ignores it

[joey13]

Totally different viruses.

There are preventative measures for HIV And Aids and Herpes doesnt have a valid case for investing in a vaccine.

Every science, medical and research organisation is putting all of its possible efforts into this one. Along with huge collaberation.

Wow , Herpes doesn’t have a valid case

If you think a vaccine is close then fine ,good luck

[Grumps]

Second wave in America ,California going into another lockdown while Trump stills ignores it

Not got a clue, perhaps you have me mixed up with someone else.... Or just wrong

[ksrclaret]

How’s the Herpes vaccine coming along
How about one for HIV/Aids ?
You keep believing the propaganda if it makes you happy

Really odd comment. For so many (that I thought were obvious) reasons, you cannot compare the development of a vaccine for Covid against Herpes and HIV.

Whatever it is you believe in, it certainly doesn't make you happy. I know which I'd rather.

[joey13]

Really odd comment. For so many (that I thought were obvious) reasons, you cannot compare the development of a vaccine for Covid against Herpes and HIV.

Whatever it is you believe in, it certainly doesn't make you happy. I know which I'd rather.

Yes let’s all believe in something that isn’t happening anytime soon

[cricketfieldclarets]

Wow , Herpes doesn’t have a valid case

If you think a vaccine is close then fine ,good luck

Lots of people have herpes. It doesnt kill. Its not airborne. Its not going to grind the world to a halt.

Whats the logic behind investing so much in a herpes (or even aids) vaccine? There are preventative measures you can take against the latter and the former doesnt kill!

[ksrclaret]

Yes let’s all believe in something that isn’t happening anytime soon

Once again, Joey, your in-depth knowledge of all virology and immunology knows no bounds. You really are the most credible source.

Keep up the positivity!

[FactualFrank]

Second wave in America ,California going into another lockdown while Trump stills ignores it

Not sure about America, but I remember you guaranteeing 100% a second wave over here.

[tiger76]

People are criticising the mask situation but think of it this way.

We are consistently driving the figures down. (down again today week on week). Its not at a very low number and easy to manage situation. Bringing masks in when its dropped further serves two benefits.

1) It may eliminate transmission full stop at what is already a low level
2) It gets us used to it should thinks creep up in winter and helps bring in good practice

Its not permanent. Its not everywhere And it helps give vulnerable people more confidence to go into shops (when in reality there is very low risk).

Its only a temporary measure and hopefully will help us prevent lockdown 2. Id sooner wear a mask for a short period in limited settings than go back into full lockdown!

We've been wearing them for a few days up here, they're aren't the most comfortable things, but like anything once you get used to wearing them, they won't be as annoying, and you're not expected to wear them 24/7, it's only when you're in crowded shops or other busy areas, and of course anybody with breathing conditions or other valid reasons for not wearing them is exempt, the idea here is too drive down the virus too virtually nil, and then if there is another wave come the winter, it may not be as severe as it otherwise could have been.

I totally agree we can't afford a 2nd lockdown economically, and from a mental health point of view, and if these minor measures help us avoid that then so be it.

I suspect you'll find that once a few people start wearing face masks/face coverings, then many others will follow.

If we have a chance of eliminating or almost eliminating this virus then we should take the opportunity well we can.

[Lowbankclaret]

Not sure about America, but I remember you guaranteeing 100% a second wave over here.

To be fair, the second wave is just starting build . Be interesting to see where we are in 4 weeks time.

[ksrclaret]

To be fair, the second wave is just starting build . Be interesting to see where we are in 4 weeks time.

If it ever does materialise, not that there's any excuse for one now, I hope you're well stocked in tissues Lowbank.

[Grumps]

To be fair, the second wave is just starting build . Be interesting to see where we are in 4 weeks time.

Get that spreadsheet fired up

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Blackburn and Darwen have just announced emergency measures in order to avoid a local lockdown. Encouraging people to get tested and to wear face coverings at all times.

[FactualFrank]

To be fair, the second wave is just starting build . Be interesting to see where we are in 4 weeks time.

Is it? Number of deaths are going down. There's been a few spikes, but that's different to a wave.

[TheFamilyCat]

Blackburn and Darren have just announced emergency measures in order to avoid a local lockdown. Encouraging people to get tested and to wear face coverings at all times.

Ugly ******* in Blackburn should be forced to wear masks anyway.

[Zlatan]

To be fair, the second wave is just starting build . Be interesting to see where we are in 4 weeks time.

Always the optimist aren’t you

[Blackrod]

Blackburn and Darwen have just announced emergency measures in order to avoid a local lockdown. Encouraging people to get tested and to wear face coverings at all times.

Not really surprised at this news following Leicester’s new lockdown and the huge case numbers in Bradford and Rochdale. Some people and communities just don’t get social distancing.

[Grumps]

Not really surprised at this news following Leicester’s new lockdown and the huge case numbers in Bradford and Rochdale. Some people and communities just don’t get social distancing.

Pendle has had the biggest infection rise

[claretandy]

Postcode data being held back to protect "certain communities"

https://twitter.com/singharj/status/1283094100158316546

[Grumps]

Postcode data being held back to protect "certain communities"

https://twitter.com/singharj/status/1283094100158316546

Weird , seeing how Blackburn Council have given the exact number of infections by ethnicity

[joey13]

Not sure about America, but I remember you guaranteeing 100% a second wave over here.

Have you heard of Leicester ?

[Grumps]

Have you heard of Leicester ?

How many deaths in Leicester?

[FactualFrank]

Have you heard of Leicester ?

That was a spike. It wasn't a wave. You stated we'd be having a second wave.

[Grumps]

That was a spike. It wasn't a wave. You stated we'd be having a second wave.

Exactly.
All over the media about Blackburn... Its 114 infections, so that Carnt be called a wave either..

[joey13]

That was a spike. It wasn't a wave. You stated we'd be having a second wave.

With another 138 deaths yesterday, we aren’t out of the first wave

[joey13]

Exactly.
All over the media about Blackburn... Its 114 infections, so that Carnt be called a wave either..

Oh dear , we are only in July (yes I obviously need to state that) the first “wave isn’t over with “ the second wave won’t be until autumn/winter

[Grumps]

Oh dear , we are only in July (yes I obviously need to state that) the first “wave isn’t over with “ the second wave won’t be until autumn/winter

Cheers, thanks for that..... At least you know what I said this time

[joey13]

Exactly.
All over the media about Blackburn... Its 114 infections, so that Carnt be called a wave either..

With the number of posts you’ve posted on this thread , you’d think you would have some idea of how Covid spreads , I’m done trying to reason all you have to do is use a little common sense but you and your mate unfactual Frank know best and ignore how the virus spreads .
Stay safe

[UnderSeige]

Second wave in America ,California going into another lockdown while Trump stills ignores it

There is no second wave of the virus in the US. It's a continuation of the first wave. 26 states have seen steadily rising cases since February. Five states have seen a small second spike. The rest (including New York) have followed a similar pattern to Europe.

A second wave would require the virus to virtually disappear and then start up again in a mutated form. If it did that it would most likely be either more, or possibly less, deadly and would probably attack a different cohort of the population.

[Grumps]

With the number of posts you’ve posted on this thread , you’d think you would have some idea of how Covid spreads , I’m done trying to reason all you have to do is use a little common sense but you and your mate unfactual Frank know best and ignore how the virus spreads .
Stay safe

I think you're reading things that haven't been said, but if having a rant makes you feel better then go for it
But when you make things up about what I've said then excuse me for not taking much notice of said rant.

[paulatky]

With the number of posts you’ve posted on this thread , you’d think you would have some idea of how Covid spreads , I’m done trying to reason all you have to do is use a little common sense but you and your mate unfactual Frank know best and ignore how the virus spreads .
Stay safe

Not logged on here for a fews days but it looks like nothing changes.
Love the above comment,

[FactualFrank]

With the number of posts you’ve posted on this thread , you’d think you would have some idea of how Covid spreads , I’m done trying to reason all you have to do is use a little common sense but you and your mate unfactual Frank know best and ignore how the virus spreads .
Stay safe

Bye! And welcome to the list.

[Grumps]

Not logged on here for a fews days but it looks like nothing changes.
Love the above comment,

Hi Mrs Atkinson, how's your Paul doing?

[UnderSeige]

Does anyone know why the UK daily case rate has jumped to 1,240 today? I can't see anything on google. Is there some kind of change in the way they calculate the figures again?

[paulatky]

Hi Mrs Atkinson, how's your Paul doing?

He’s asked me to ask you if you think we have passed the peak yet.

[Grumps]

He’s asked me to ask you if you think we have passed the peak yet.

I don't know, the person I asked never actually answered the question
But having waited four months I doubt he'll get back to me, so I'll take a punt and say, yes I think we are, but that's only because the experts say we are.

[UnderSeige]

With the number of posts you’ve posted on this thread , you’d think you would have some idea of how Covid spreads , I’m done trying to reason all you have to do is use a little common sense but you and your mate unfactual Frank know best and ignore how the virus spreads .
Stay safe

Joey - If you want a worthy conspiracy theory that might just be true try looking up 'gain of function research coronavirus' on google. You will find a possible conspiracy that has been published in respected publications such as the Washington Post and Newsweek.

https://www.newsweek.com/controversial- ... ic-1500503

[Grumps]

Does anyone know why the UK daily case rate has jumped to 1,240 today? I can't see anything on google. Is there some kind of change in the way they calculate the figures again?

The site below usually has the answers

https://twitter.com/UKCovid19Stats

[UnderSeige]

The site below usually has the answers

https://twitter.com/UKCovid19Stats

The twitter site says 398 the Worldometers says 1,240 for today. Possibly a misprint somewhere that will be corrected in due course.

Going off the Worldometers figures the seven day moving average has risen from 597 to 719 over the last seven days. Over the last 14 days it has fallen from 921 to 719.

Spain, France and Portugal have slightly higher daily case rates than a couple of weeks ago. Italy, Belgium and Germany look OK. I don't think there is the beginnings of a second spike yet but I would like the figures to be lower.

[Bangers&Mash]

I read somewhere there was a correction added for some earlier cases in Wales. Similar corrections have caused discrepancies in daily and overall figures

[cricketfieldclarets]

Does anyone know why the UK daily case rate has jumped to 1,240 today? I can't see anything on google. Is there some kind of change in the way they calculate the figures again?

They’ve included backdated figures from wales and the meat factories from several weeks ago.

This is the actual flow of things on dates things happened not dates they were added to reports. Makes a huge difference.