Sunderland Till I Die

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Sunderland Till I Die

Post by Shappie » Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:03 pm

I’ve been recommended to watch this documentary on Netflix. Has anyone on here seen it and is it any good?

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Re: Sunderland Till I Die

Post by Hopey1786 » Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:04 pm

Yes
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Re: Sunderland Till I Die

Post by DCWat » Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:12 pm

Shappie wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:03 pm
I’ve been recommended to watch this documentary on Netflix. Has anyone on here seen it and is it any good?
Didn’t you trust the person recommending it? :lol:

It is a decent watch, as is the Man City one.

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Re: Sunderland Till I Die

Post by Shappie » Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:18 pm

DCWat wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:12 pm
Didn’t you trust the person recommending it? :lol:

It is a decent watch, as is the Man City one.


Always good to get a second opinion!!
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Re: Sunderland Till I Die

Post by jdrobbo » Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:47 pm

Good series
Well worth a watch.

Some poor editing with stadium shots (close-ups of managers shouting at players during game A despite being at Stadium B etc.)

Next series starts later this month. Looking forward to it.
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Post by Tricky Trevor » Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:57 pm

jdrobbo wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:47 pm
Next series starts later this month. Looking forward to it.
Cheers, JD. I’ve been checking regularly for it. A hard watch for diehard Mackems with Pompey doing them twice at Wembley.

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Re: Sunderland Till I Die

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:58 pm

Worth watching just to see the anger from the fans at some games and then the despair. We’ve all been through it.

Also, Grayson would hardly inspire you if you were a footballer.

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Post by ksrclaret » Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:04 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:58 pm
Worth watching just to see the anger from the fans at some games and then the despair. We’ve all been through it.

Also, Grayson would hardly inspire you if you were a footballer.
Hasn’t he got 4 promotions on his CV? He mustn’t be that bad.

As good as the documentary is, the editing is clearly done to favour some and paint others in poor light.

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Re: Sunderland Till I Die

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:08 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:04 pm
Hasn’t he got 4 promotions on his CV? He mustn’t be that bad.

As good as the documentary is, the editing is clearly done to favour some and paint others in poor light.
He has those promotions. Have a good friend who supports Sunderland and I told him they’d made a good appointment with Grayson. But when you see his team talk ..... wouldn’t inspire anyone.

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Re: Sunderland Till I Die

Post by Hopey1786 » Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:11 pm

Im surprised nobody chinned jack.rodwell in his time there
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Re: Sunderland Till I Die

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:13 pm

1 of the better 1s I'm watching another about bielsa & Leeds at the moment, regarding the STID I think Martin bain could have benefitted from reading the blood pressure thread I got the impression he seemed stressed out whilst there.

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Re: Sunderland Till I Die

Post by claret wizard » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:11 pm

The Leeds one is awful. It's a bit like their season, starts off interesting, then you realise it's just Leeds bigging themselves up and then it all falls to pieces.

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Re: Sunderland Till I Die

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:15 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:13 pm
I think Martin bain could have benefitted from reading the blood pressure thread I got the impression he seemed stressed out whilst there.
He's had a varied career - started as a model and then moved into football with Rangers and then Maccabi Tel-Aviv before getting stressed out at Sunderland. He's now CEO of Football Sports Development who run the Indian Super League.

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Re: Sunderland Till I Die

Post by Jakubclaret » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:21 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:15 pm
He's had a varied career - started as a model and then moved into football with Rangers and then Maccabi Tel-Aviv before getting stressed out at Sunderland. He's now CEO of Football Sports Development who run the Indian Super League.
He came across very well in the programme to me, but you could sense, well I could he was on edge & the situation at Sunderland was mentally strength zapping for him.

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Post by Wile E Coyote » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:24 pm

its a very good series of programmes. good insight into club.

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Re: Sunderland Till I Die

Post by claretblue » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:30 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:15 pm
He's now CEO of Football Sports Development who run the Indian Super League
he may meet up with our former Godlike former manager (now head coach of Chennaiyin F.C)

...they could discuss career choices! :?

UTC

:D

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Re: Sunderland Till I Die

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:35 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:21 pm
He came across very well in the programme to me, but you could sense, well I could he was on edge & the situation at Sunderland was mentally strength zapping for him.
To be fair though, I think any one of us would have been on the edge trying to steer that club out of trouble. If ever there was an example of a club relying on an owner and over spending, there you have it.

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Post by FCBurnley » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:44 pm

Excellent series.

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Re: Sunderland Till I Die

Post by Rowls » Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:23 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:21 pm
He came across very well in the programme to me, but you could sense, well I could he was on edge & the situation at Sunderland was mentally strength zapping for him.
Really? :shock:

I thought he [Martin Bain] came across as a preening, self-satisfied, arrogant prat who thought the documentary would be a feature of how he was guiding Sunderland back to the Premier League.

He was embarrassing.

But it's all about opinions. Yours in just as valid, it's always amazing when two people can watch exactly the same thing and come away with entirely different interpretations.

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Re: Sunderland Till I Die

Post by Jakubclaret » Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:47 pm

True, like it’s already been said, he was on a hiding to nothing from the outset, the very moment Ellis short lost interest & reined in the spending it became a damage limitation exercise.

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