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Man City banned from Europe

Post by martin_p » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:34 pm

For two seasons!

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Man City banned from Europe?

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:35 pm

An alert has just come up on my phone about Man City being banned from Europe for the next two seasons. Don’t know if it’s correct or not, can’t find any info.

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Re: Man City banned from Europe

Post by martin_p » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:36 pm

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Re: Man City banned from Europe

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Re: Man City banned from Europe?

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:37 pm

It’s confirmed - breaches of FFP

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Re: Man City banned from Europe?

Post by Bosscat » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:38 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:37 pm
It’s confirmed - breaches of FFP
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theg ... s-ffp-uefa

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Re: Man City banned from Europe?

Post by Vino blanco » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:39 pm

Sky News saying they are banned from Europe for breach of financial rules for 20/21 and 21/22 seasons

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Re: Man City banned from Europe

Post by martin_p » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:39 pm

Does this mean that 5th place will attract a Champions League place this season? Guess it will.

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Re: Man City banned from Europe?

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:39 pm

Manchester City have been banned from European competition for the next two seasons after being found to have committed "serious breaches" of Uefa's club licensing and financial fair play regulations.

They’ve also been fined £25m but that’s meaningless to them.

Now will Pep stay.

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Re: Man City banned from Europe?

Post by Lowbankclaret » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:42 pm

Good.
Can we get them relegated to league 2 as well?

It’s just a billionaire’s train set really.

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Re: Man City banned from Europe

Post by FactualFrank » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:42 pm

martin_p wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:39 pm
Does this mean that 5th place will attract a Champions League place this season? Guess it will.
Aye - Sheffield United!

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Re: Man City banned from Europe?

Post by Royboyclaret » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:44 pm

For any readers of the Magic Money Tree thread this will come as absolutely no surprise. An almost inevitable outcome for a Club that considered themselves untouchable and outside of the rules. Subject to appeal, of course.

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Re: Man City banned from Europe

Post by joey13 » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:45 pm

Mexit
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Re: Man City banned from Europe?

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:45 pm

They’ll appeal it and have it suspended no doubt.

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Re: Man City banned from Europe

Post by Bosscat » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:47 pm

I wonder what would happen if Citeh won this seasons Champs League ....

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Re: Man City banned from Europe?

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:49 pm

Let's get that 8th spot now.

It would be funny if they win the competition this year but aren't allowed to defend it.
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Re: Man City banned from Europe

Post by FactualFrank » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:51 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:47 pm
I wonder what would happen if Citeh won this seasons Champs League ....
You would hope the team they play in the final qualify for next season's competition - although they'll no doubt have finished high enough in their league anyway, so I don't imagine it will make any difference.

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Re: Man City banned from Europe

Post by elwaclaret » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:53 pm

Whoever gets that last spot, could send the clubs finances through the roof.... anyone with half a chance should be desperate to get up there. What a major incentive to kick on and go for all possible points.

City will look a lot less appealing too... that is quite a heavy price, bet they are sick.

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Re: Man City banned from Europe?

Post by fidelcastro » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:54 pm

Please can we merge the two threads?

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Re: Man City banned from Europe?

Post by Vino blanco » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:56 pm

I knew Brexit was a bad idea.

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Re: Man City banned from Europe?

Post by Aclaret » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:58 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:54 pm
Please can we merge the two threads?
I reckon Martin_p got it by 1 min.

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Re: Man City banned from Europe

Post by FactualFrank » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:59 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:53 pm
Whoever gets that last spot, could send the clubs finances through the roof.... anyone with half a chance should be desperate to get up there. What a major incentive to kick on and go for all possible points.

City will look a lot less appealing too... that is quite a heavy price, bet they are sick.
8 points - doable.

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Re: Man City banned from Europe

Post by Darthlaw » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:05 pm

Delightful news.

Will chequebook Pep still be able to attract sufficient players to keep them competitive, without CL football?

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Re: Man City banned from Europe

Post by Right_winger » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:06 pm

I’m glad about this. Hope City loose their appeal. It’s about time these clubs distorting competitions by throwing money around are curtailed. Would love to see the premier league have a points deduction for teams who spend more than they make but it won’t happen.
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Re: Man City banned from Europe

Post by Spijed » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:07 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:59 pm
8 points - doable.
The thought of having to replace the wooden seats with plastic ones will have Mike Garlick saying to SD "Let's not be too hasty in trying to get the fifth spot"! ;)

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Re: Man City banned from Europe?

Post by Spijed » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:08 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:37 pm
It’s confirmed - breaches of FFP
Wonder if Wolves will be investigated for their transfer dealings?

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Re: Man City banned from Europe

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:12 pm

Like this matters. All that is important is the premier league. Nobody cares about Europe or cups.

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Re: Man City banned from Europe?

Post by joey13 » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:13 pm

Spijed wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:08 pm
Wonder if Wolves will be investigated for their transfer dealings?
How do PSG get away with it

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Re: Man City banned from Europe

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:13 pm

Darthlaw wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:05 pm
Delightful news.

Will chequebook Pep still be able to attract sufficient players to keep them competitive, without CL football?
Nows the time to prove his worth. Try and recover the premier league next season. Win Europe this season. And do so under pressure.

Realistically I reckon he will be off. Be it PSG, Back to Barca, Juventus or America.

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Re: Man City banned from Europe

Post by TheFamilyCat » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:16 pm

At least Pep will have a good excuse for not winning it.

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Re: Man City banned from Europe

Post by summitclaret » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:17 pm

Well there's an incentive, including for us. I don't want to be in the micky mouse league, but I'd take CL even if we went down.

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Re: Man City banned from Europe

Post by Stayingup » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:17 pm

joey13 wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:45 pm
Mexit
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Re: Man City banned from Europe

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:21 pm

Serves them right, cheating buggers trying to buy all footballs trophies. Need to take a few more out as well.

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Re: Man City banned from Europe

Post by KateR » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:27 pm

nothing really done and dusted yet so will wait until after the arbitration, I would predict that this ruling will not stand, potentially one season ban but I hope it doesn't get quashed altogether.

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Re: Man City banned from Europe

Post by thelaughingclaret » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:27 pm

City look set to appeal this decision. If it’s like when Chelsea appealed their transfer embargo city will be allowed into next seasons champions league whilst the appeal happens and then the 2 year ban will get reduced to 1 year.

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Re: Man City banned from Europe

Post by ArmchairDetective » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:28 pm

5th place here we come

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Re: Man City banned from Europe

Post by exilecanada » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:31 pm

Move along, nothing to see here! What's betting the ban will be reduced to a token fine and a slap on the wrist after the appeal is heard?

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Re: Man City banned from Europe

Post by Funkydrummer » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:32 pm

Best news I've heard since yoonitid were relegated in 1974.

Now let's see if you can do it legally, you utterly contemptible bunch of cheating so and so's.
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Re: Man City banned from Europe

Post by martin_p » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:32 pm

KateR wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:27 pm
nothing really done and dusted yet so will wait until after the arbitration, I would predict that this ruling will not stand, potentially one season ban but I hope it doesn't get quashed altogether.
If it does FFP is dead.

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Re: Man City banned from Europe

Post by bfcjg » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:37 pm

exilecanada wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:31 pm
Move along, nothing to see here! What's betting the ban will be reduced to a token fine and a slap on the wrist after the appeal is heard?

:evil:
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Re: Man City banned from Europe

Post by Dark Cloud » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:38 pm

It strikes me that City's complaint that it's unfair because UEFA brought the case, prosecuted the case and ultimately decided in the case is daft because at the end of the day surely it's just like any other league in any other sport at basically any level. If you want to be a part of it you adhere to the rules it makes and if you don't they can do whatever they want with you, because it's THEIR league. If you don't like that they set the rules and administer the rules and decide who plays and who doesn't, then find another league, but surely they are all the same.
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Re: Man City banned from Europe

Post by box_of_frogs » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:40 pm

They’ll worm their way out of it somehow.

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Re: Man City banned from Europe

Post by KateR » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:44 pm

martin_p wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:32 pm
If it does FFP is dead.
I really don't see it like that, so many times we see things imposed and reduced after appeals.

Dark Cloud's take is interesting but also shows the unfairness of it all, judge jury and executioner is not supposed to be how it works, but in this case it seems exactly that, plus the jury leaked info to the judge and therefore the case was biased. Am sure the MC Legal Eagles will have a field day with this, and as I said I expect the judgement to be reduced but again I hope not.

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Re: Man City banned from Europe

Post by Dark Cloud » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:50 pm

KateR wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:44 pm
I really don't see it like that, so many times we see things imposed and reduced after appeals.

Dark Cloud's take is interesting but also shows the unfairness of it all, judge jury and executioner is not supposed to be how it works, but in this case it seems exactly that, plus the jury leaked info to the judge and therefore the case was biased. Am sure the MC Legal Eagles will have a field day with this, and as I said I expect the judgement to be reduced but again I hope not.
I know what you're saying, but to me it really isn't strictly speaking a "legal" thing. You join a league and the league makes rules and surely the league can basically chuck out anyone who doesn't follow those rules. I see it almost like wanting to be a member of a private club. If they decide your out, your out, because they really are "judge and jury" and in many ways they don't have to answer to anyone, except maybe the rest of the members might want to be satisfied that all was done fairly and that there really was a breach of rules and not some kind of witch hunt. IMO, it should have nothing to do with outside bodies. It's like telling the private club that it can't enforce it's own rules.

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Re: Man City banned from Europe

Post by Tall Paul » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:51 pm

I'm sure the brown envelope is on its way to the appeal panel as we speak.
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Re: Man City banned from Europe

Post by ecc » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:56 pm

I'd love to see it happen but let's await the appeal.

PSG are just as bad if not worse.

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Re: Man City banned from Europe

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:58 pm

I wonder how it’ll effect the Premier League investigation.
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Re: Man City banned from Europe

Post by KateR » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:58 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:50 pm
I know what you're saying, but to me it really isn't strictly speaking a "legal" thing. You join a league and the league makes rules and surely the league can basically chuck out anyone who doesn't follow those rules. I see it almost like wanting to be a member of a private club. If they decide your out, your out, because they really are "judge and jury" and in many ways they don't have to answer to anyone, except maybe the rest of the members might want to be satisfied that all was done fairly and that there really was a breach of rules and not some kind of witch hunt. IMO, it should have nothing to do with outside bodies. It's like telling the private club that it can't enforce it's own rules.
I hear what you are saying but if that was really the case then UEFA would simply tell MC, knock yourself out guys, you're banned and that's the end of it, but they're not for a reason. Again I hope I'm wrong, time will tell.

I am not 100% sure about FFP but I thought some teams in the past had been given penalties but had them reduced on appeal, I have no facts to support this just something niggling the back of my brain, therefore if so there would be a precedence for reducing a ruling.

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Re: Man City banned from Europe

Post by tim_noone » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:59 pm

Tall Paul wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:51 pm
I'm sure the brown envelope is on its way to the appeal panel as we speak.
Words right out of my mouth!

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Re: Man City banned from Europe?

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:04 pm

Spijed wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:08 pm
Wonder if Wolves will be investigated for their transfer dealings?
Think they were and no issues

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