Chelsea vs Man U

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 7:00 pm

As Man U are only a point clear, and we want to finish above them - Chelsea win?

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 7:07 pm

For sure YES

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 7:54 pm

"Roll up! Roll up!
Half & Half's, Half price!
£50 quid each!!"

Well, for most Manure fans it's a local Derby....

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claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:24 pm

Once again proves VAR is a farce, didn't even need a replay, saw it first time, definite 100% red that should have been for Maguire.

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:26 pm

No yellow, he can expect a call from the FA tomorrow.

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:30 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:26 pm
No yellow, he can expect a call from the FA tomorrow.

I thought if the ref has seen the incident, which all are now seen due to VAR, then no retrospective punishment can be given?

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:35 pm

Come on you Cockerneees (and I don't mean the London Reds

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ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:38 pm

Willian booked, diving.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:39 pm

Bailly looks like a thoroughbred and Maguire a lumbering donkey!

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:41 pm

Half and half scarves are the Devil's own creation.

icu81b4 · Post by **icu81b4** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:46 pm

Good goal by Martial though 0-1

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:46 pm

0-1/manyoo

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:56 pm

claretburns wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:30 pm
I thought if the ref has seen the incident, which all are now seen due to VAR, then no retrospective punishment can be given?

I’m not sure whether that would count but the match report is from the match ref and as he didn’t give a yellow it should be reviewable.

LeadBelly · Post by **LeadBelly** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:57 pm

Bugger! I had a bet on Jorginho to score the first goal on the basis that Willian (or A N Other) would "win a penalty". On this occasion Willian got his timing all wrong.

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:00 pm

Even Roy Keane says Maguire should have had a red card.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:03 pm

Think he'll be getting a call tomorrow.
They just showed Son's kick on Rudiger, that he got sent off for. Pretty much identical.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:16 pm

These people in the VAR box are hilarious.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:16 pm

VAR check on possible equaliser.

Edit...ruled out

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:19 pm

Another Varce.... Push into Williams gets Zouma gosl ruled out. Then TV shows Chelsea player pushed by Fred, into Williams!

That plus Maguire assault earlier....is anyone actually doing VAR?

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:20 pm

Anthony Taylor proving once again he hasn't got a clue

gsyclaret · Post by **gsyclaret** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:22 pm

Push by fred into the chelsea player, which in turn pushed the chelsea player into the united player, absolute joke.

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:22 pm

All that's bad in football on display in this game tonight.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:25 pm

Maguire 0-2.

gsyclaret · Post by **gsyclaret** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:26 pm

I really enjoyed watching our game on Saturday, full on football , no rolling around on the long grass, this game is rubbish compared to that, and the bloke who should have been sent off has just scored

gsyclaret · Post by **gsyclaret** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:28 pm

Chelsea really miss Hazard, they have no play maker anymore.

icu81b4 · Post by **icu81b4** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:28 pm

ElectroClaret wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:25 pm
Maguire 0-2.

And he should not be on the pitch after his assault

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:29 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:20 pm
Anthony Taylor proving once again he hasn't got a clue

He’s not getting much help either from Chris Kavanagh on VAR duty.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:33 pm

Like the look of Fernandes, must say.

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:34 pm

Do refs, linos and VAR people not go around as a team ?

If not, perhaps they should.

icu81b4 · Post by **icu81b4** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:36 pm

What a great goal Giroud ..... Ahhh offside 0-2

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:38 pm

That's two disallowed for Chelsea.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:39 pm

VAR is turning out to be a destruction of football.

Half a foot. Crap.

gsyclaret · Post by **gsyclaret** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:40 pm

I am really fed up with this sh!te VAR

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:40 pm

They are slowly ruining the game that we all know and love.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:45 pm

Some battle for 4th,as it stands just 3 points splitting 4th to 7th,and Wolves and Everton can't be totally discounted either if they can put a run together.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:49 pm

I know football is serious about head injuries now.

If you go down holding your head when it’s not been touched you should face retrospective action. Too many clubs using it to waste time.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:50 pm

IanMcL wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:39 pm
VAR is turning out to be a destruction of football.

Half a foot. Crap.

Which means offside

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 10:01 pm

joey13 wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:50 pm
Which means offside

The VAR that showed the half foot didn't show the passer ball contact. The first view, that did show the passer he looked OK.

Giftonsnoidea · Post by **Giftonsnoidea** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 10:10 pm

What an absolute shambles VAR is, on pitch referees are bad but the clowns inside a room are even worse

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 10:12 pm

Giftonsnoidea wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 17, 2020 10:10 pm
What an absolute shambles VAR is, on pitch referees are bad but the clowns inside a room are even worse

That’s because it’s the clowns who are usually on the pitch are the ones giving them.
If they are going to run with it they need competent people who actually understand football controlling VAR.

karatekid · Post by **karatekid** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 10:13 pm

ElectroClaret wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:33 pm
Like the look of Fernandes, must say.

I thought the game passed him by for the most part. OK at dead ball situations but no way 50 million worth of talent.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 10:25 pm

karatekid wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 17, 2020 10:13 pm
I thought the game passed him by for the most part. OK at dead ball situations but no way 50 million worth of talent.

Yeah, but give him time, early days for him.
He'll be a good signing.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 10:31 pm

joey13 wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:50 pm
Which means offside

Absolutely. Thirty years ago the laws of the game were changed to make that goal a legal goal, which it has been ever since. Now VAR is doing sterling work in disallowing goals which were legal last year, in stopping outburts of joy int he crowd because you know you can't celebrate a goal just yet, and inn generally p***ing the crowd off to the extent that some might decide it's not worth it any more. Well done VAR.

Seriously, what is the plus side of changing the law so that "level" means onside in the Championship but "level" is abolished in the Premier League? What is the point of having two different rules? I can see the point of looking at the two pushes in quick succession in the penalty area and deciding that Fred's push is not a big enough push to count but Azpilicueta's is a big enough push; I think the decision is stupid, but at least they were looking at something the ref hasn't seen. But why the different offside laws for different divisions?

LeadBelly · Post by **LeadBelly** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 10:32 pm

Even Roy Keane says Maguire should have had a red card.

Nah- he played the ball clearly.

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 10:40 pm

LeadBelly wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 17, 2020 10:32 pm
Nah- he played the ball clearly.

Both of them

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 11:38 pm

gsyclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:40 pm
I am really fed up with this sh!te VAR

It's gone Burnley's way a few times this season....I'm getting to like it.

Gordaleman · Post by **Gordaleman** » Mon Feb 17, 2020 11:46 pm

Simple answer to getting rid of VAR. All fans stand up and turn their backs on the game until it restarts. The PL would surely get the message. Then maybe we can cheer when a goal goes in?

The old game relied on one man making a decision on the field of play. Now we have one man making a decision miles away. What's the point when current decisions are often worse than before?

GET SHUT OF VAR and do it before next season.

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Tue Feb 18, 2020 12:15 am

Gordaleman wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 17, 2020 11:46 pm
Simple answer to getting rid of VAR. All fans stand up and turn their backs on the game until it restarts. The PL would surely get the message. Then maybe we can cheer when a goal goes in?

The old game relied on one man making a decision on the field of play. Now we have one man making a decision miles away. What's the point when current decisions are often worse than before?

GET SHUT OF VAR and do it before next season.

Hi Gordy. How long you been on here? I was Houseclaret on the telegraph shite. Couldn’t use it on here for some reason. Boss is on here too.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Tue Feb 18, 2020 12:25 am

Nothing wrong with VAR. Its the idiots who make the decisions who are causing the problems. In tonight’s game Maguire clearly kicked the Chelsea player. VAR showed this perfectly yet the VAR official made the wrong call. Maguire of course went on to score when he should have been taking an early bath. First Chelsea disallowed goal was an equally wrong call. The offside call was correct. On NBCSN after the game they showed the Son sending off for an identical offense with the same referee. When you see the two side by side they truly are identical but with different outcomes and that is the problem with VAR

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:40 am

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:29 pm
He’s not getting much help either from Chris Kavanagh on VAR duty.

it's got to be up there with the worst VAR decisions I've ever seen in a game. they weren't even difficult - the only one they got right was the offside