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Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:30 pm
by Andreshotboots
Has there been anything released information wise?
As well as Vydra played on Saturday with Wood out for a period of time and Ash still on the way back we are potentially very short on striking options.
Let's hope it's a strain and nothing more sinister..
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:34 pm
by FactualFrank
The latest I heard is that he's being assessed.
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:34 pm
by Quickenthetempo
We won't find anything out until the press conference, but with a full weeks training we might be playing 451 with Brownhill coming into the side
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:36 pm
by FactualFrank
I'd be surprised if we went 4-5-1 at home to Bournemouth.
Away to Man City maybe, but Vydra is buzzing, so would be surprised if we didn't stick with 4-4-2.
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:39 pm
by Andreshotboots
Saturday might see the most foreign sounding front 2 we've ever had starting a game at the Turf, even though ones from Burnley!!
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:40 pm
by Colburn_Claret
Definitely 4 4 2, I doubt Wood will be back for the next 2 games at least, even if it is the slightest niggle imaginable. That's the way of the club since SD came in.
Hopefully Ash will be back before then, but even he will have to earn his slot. We don't do changing winning teams, unless it is forced on us.
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:44 pm
by Bin Ont Turf
Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:34 pm
but with a full weeks training we might be playing 451
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:47 pm
by houseboy
Unless Wood is available, which would appear to be doubtful for a game or two, we should stick with JR and Vydra. Even if Barnes was fully fit I would see no reason to replace a guy who will be on a high with one who hasn't scored in ages anyway. Vydra will be so bloody hungry I doubt if there will be a more motivated player at the club right now. As for going 4-5-1 at home, to Bournemouth, that would be madness. And why do it anyway when you have a striker who will be buzzing, unless someone is suggesting dropping JR, which I very much doubt. .
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:51 pm
by Quickenthetempo
I'm not convinced he trusts Vydra to play a full game.
We will see.
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:53 pm
by Claretmatt4
Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:51 pm
I'm not convinced he trusts Vydra to play a full game.
We will see.
He got 65 mins last week, so he can start him and assess his fitness later in the game
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:54 pm
by Lowbankclaret
Normally when Wood gets injured, he is a slow healer.
If it’s just a normal hamstring we are not seeing him again for about 8 weeks.
So we need the best partnership from our 3 fit strikers, anyone’s guess which two from three it could be.
The one thing we saw was Vids was out on his feet so cannot do 90 minutes yet. So perhaps the Simple solution is Vids for 60 minutes then bring on Barnes in the next game.
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:58 pm
by Quickenthetempo
Claretmatt4 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:53 pm
He got 65 mins last week, so he can start him and assess his fitness later in the game
That's one option he could take, but if there's no other forward option on the bench it would mean going 451 if he had to come off.
Dyche is more likely to start 451 and then bring the 2nd striker on around 65 minutes.
Hopefully Wood is fit anyhow.
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:03 pm
by Dark Cloud
Even if Wood "appears" fit personally I'd bench him. The last thing you want is it flaring up again after 20 minutes and actually being worse, plus the guy who replaced him did well and deserves another chance.
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:09 pm
by Tall Paul
Andreshotboots wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:39 pm
Saturday might see the most foreign sounding front 2 we've ever had starting a game at the Turf, even though ones from Burnley!!
What about Vossen & Jutkiewicz?
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:28 pm
by Stayingup
Claretmatt4 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:53 pm
He got 65 mins last week, so he can start him and assess his fitness later in the game
Absolutely. Then bring Long on
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:31 pm
by Jakubs Tash
Would be astounded if Wood pulls his boots on this Saturday. Perhaps the more pertinent question is; how far off is Ashley Barnes from making the bench?
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:31 pm
by DAVETHEVICAR
Expect the 11 to be those that finished the game at Southampton
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:32 pm
by ksrclaret
I'm also dubious as to whether Vydra will get a start, despite his overall good showing at Southampton. What I would say is that Bournemouth at home is probably a decent game to test whether he's up to starting. They're a little lightweight.
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:36 pm
by Elbarad
I think it's more likely swiss army knife Hendrick gets the start up front.
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:39 pm
by MACCA
Dyche is a believer of, you get a chance take the opportunity if the shirt when it arises.
Vydra will be on cloud 9, I'd give him a start, especially at home when we are flying.
He's bagged v this lot before, and I fancy our chances with the ball on the deck a little more.
If he needs to come off on 70 mins so be it, we could well be infront then anyway and use it to protect the lead and give Brownhill a taste of the action at home for the last 20
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:53 pm
by Buxtonclaret
Reckon Vydra has earned a start. Apart from his superb goal, he didn't play badly.
Always thought he gets knocked off the ball a bit easy though.
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:17 pm
by FCBurnley
Neither Wood or Barnes will be close to fitness this weekend. Barnes is some way off yet and any hamstring is a least a couple of weeks. So I would expect to see Pope, Lowton or Bards, Mee, Tarks , Taylor, Hendrick, Cork, Westy, McNeil, Jay Rod, Vydra assuming we have no unreported injuries. We really are down to the bare bones now. No reason at all not to start Vydra, he has to be buzzing and full of confidence
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:19 pm
by Hopey1786
Vydra to start
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:21 pm
by Andreshotboots
Tall Paul wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:09 pm
What about Vossen & Jutkiewicz?
Did they ever start a game together? Not being funny, a genuine question..
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:21 pm
by Gordaleman
Vyds definitely deserves a start after that goal.
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/s ... ra-stunner
Imagine how he would feel to be dropped after a goal like that and all the support he got from the fans and the media.
He HAS to play, surely?
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:22 pm
by FactualFrank
ksrclaret wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:32 pm
I'm also dubious as to whether Vydra will get a start, despite his overall good showing at Southampton. What I would say is that Bournemouth at home is probably a decent game to test whether he's up to starting. They're a little lightweight.
Definitely the ideal game for him to start.
It'll be a kick in the teeth if he doesn't get awarded a start after sealing 3 points for us, unless of course Wood is fit to play.
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:23 pm
by Gordaleman
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:26 pm
by Devils_Advocate
Andreshotboots wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:30 pm
Has there been anything released information wise?
Th New Zealand manager is going to give a full update on Wood's injury situation next week
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:29 pm
by Bosscat
Andreshotboots wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:39 pm
Saturday might see the most foreign sounding front 2 we've ever had starting a game at the Turf, even though ones from Burnley!!
Well at least its not a "Heath Robinson" attack
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:33 pm
by Jakubs Tash
ksrclaret wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:32 pm
What I would say is that Bournemouth at home is probably a decent game to test whether he's up to starting. They're a little lightweight.
I don't think Bournemouth are a little lightweight. They have big, physical defenders like Cook, Ake and Francis and the likes of Billing and Lerma in midfield.
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:36 pm
by Iloveyoubrady
Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:33 pm
I don't think Bournemouth are a little lightweight. They have big, physical defenders like Cook, Ake and Francis and the likes of Billing and Lerma in midfield.
Their players don’t appear lightweight but trust me, they play like a bunch of lightweights.
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:41 pm
by TVC15
Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:54 pm
Normally when Wood gets injured, he is a slow healer.
If it’s just a normal hamstring we are not seeing him again for about 8 weeks.
So we need the best partnership from our 3 fit strikers, anyone’s guess which two from three it could be.
The one thing we saw was Vids was out on his feet so cannot do 90 minutes yet. So perhaps the Simple solution is Vids for 60 minutes then bring on Barnes in the next game.
Very few hamstrings are taking that long to heal in recent years. We are getting players come back after 2 or 3 weeks now on a regular basis - like Mane for example. Obviously all depends on the severity of the injury but the treatment and recovery seems to have advanced.
Wood has felt his hamstring a few times this season so did think it was inevitable it was at some point going to go.
A couple of years ago New Zealand played him the week after he had pulled his hamstring in that play off game. The second leg was the week after and they put him on the bench and brought him on - that was madness and he ended up being injured for a while for us after that.
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:41 pm
by IanMcL
Mr D will sort it.
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:45 pm
by Tall Paul
Andreshotboots wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:21 pm
Did they ever start a game together? Not being funny, a genuine question..
Pretty sure they started the first few games of the Championship winning season before we signed Gray.
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:10 pm
by Stayingup
Where is Gudmusson? Has he retired?
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:33 pm
by Vegas Claret
it's fine, Tarkowski can play up front
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:36 pm
by Tricky Trevor
Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:31 pm
Would be astounded if Wood pulls his boots on this Saturday. Perhaps the more pertinent question is; how far off is Ashley Barnes from making the bench?
Jermaine Jenas, on BT comms, said Barnes available B’mouth game. Poster previous to this said he’s a couple of weeks off. I’ll wait until Saturday or SDs presser.
We played so much more football with Jay & Vydra I’d stick with them short term.
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:45 pm
by Petersa
I'm sure Jermaine Jenas is first on Sean's list of confidants
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:48 pm
by FactualFrank
Players coming from injury generally begin life back on the bench, but Barnes as an option would of course be a nice bonus, especially if Wood is out.
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:51 pm
by FCBurnley
SD said Barnes is on grass with the physio but not training. Not sure how to read that ?
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:53 pm
by Lowbankclaret
TVC15 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:41 pm
Very few hamstrings are taking that long to heal in recent years. We are getting players come back after 2 or 3 weeks now on a regular basis - like Mane for example. Obviously all depends on the severity of the injury but the treatment and recovery seems to have advanced.
Wood has felt his hamstring a few times this season so did think it was inevitable it was at some point going to go.
A couple of years ago New Zealand played him the week after he had pulled his hamstring in that play off game. The second leg was the week after and they put him on the bench and brought him on - that was madness and he ended up being injured for a while for us after that.
When we bought him My mate a Leeds fan pointed out he is a slow healer. Each time he has been injured I have noted he takes longer than most others to recover.
So let’s see, but don’t expect to see him for a prolonged period.
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:03 pm
by jrgbfc
FCBurnley wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:51 pm
SD said Barnes is on grass with the physio but not training. Not sure how to read that ?
I'm guessing that means he's doing a bit of light training, but not joining in with the rest of the lads. No chance of being in the squad this weekend going off that.
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:07 pm
by FactualFrank
FCBurnley wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:51 pm
SD said Barnes is on grass with the physio but not training. Not sure how to read that ?
I couldn't help but have this sort of picture in my head.
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Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:36 pm
by Quickenthetempo
Stayingup wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:10 pm
Where is Gudmusson? Has he retired?
He looked in good spirits from the photos I've seen with families, after training today.
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:47 pm
by warksclaret
Would start with Vydra and Jay and if not going to plan or if Vydra having an off day move Hendrick to play behind Jay and give Brownhill a 20 minute home debut. Having said that we really are down to the bare bones. The idea of having Gibson go on loan to Watford for the rest of the season in exchange for Andre Gray to come on our bench until May, does not now sound too ridiculous. After all its unlikely Gibson will wear a Burnley shirt again
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:42 pm
by Jakubs Tash
Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:36 pm
Jermaine Jenas, on BT comms, said Barnes available B’mouth game. Poster previous to this said he’s a couple of weeks off. I’ll wait until Saturday or SDs presser.
We played so much more football with Jay & Vydra I’d stick with them short term.
Jay has certainly played well and showed he is the best footballing forward that we have (in my opinion). But let's not forget how good a fit Ashley Barnes is. Barnes is also a very underrated footballer.
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:52 pm
by KateR
of course it's ridiculous but he could play Long upfront
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:47 pm
by dougcollins
Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:42 pm
Jay has certainly played well and showed he is the best footballing forward that we have (in my opinion). But let's not forget how good a fit Ashley Barnes is. Barnes is also a very underrated footballer.
Barnes has a tremendous touch, some people only see one side of him.
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 11:31 pm
by dsr
warksclaret wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:47 pm
Would start with Vydra and Jay and if not going to plan or if Vydra having an off day move Hendrick to play behind Jay and give Brownhill a 20 minute home debut. Having said that we really are down to the bare bones. The idea of having Gibson go on loan to Watford for the rest of the season in exchange for Andre Gray to come on our bench until May, does not now sound too ridiculous. After all its unlikely Gibson will wear a Burnley shirt again
It wouldn't have sounded ridiculous during the transfer window, but it does now. We can't sign anyone till the close season; nor can Watford.
Re: Chris Wood injury.
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 11:39 pm
by Blackburn_Claret
We can't afford to rush Barnes and Wood back, also too much of a risk to play Vydra who's not match fit regardless of his heroics last week, we can't afford to play Vydra and Rodriguez together with the lack of options we currently have. Get Lennon on the wing and Hendrick playing behind Jay. Wouldn't introduce Brownhill until we are safe