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Re: Boris Watch

Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:15 pm

Cryssys wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 5:41 pm
He may be with you but it's worth remembering that only four out of ten people in the UK voted for him.
I didn't vote for him, but I'm glad the country has someone who wants to get things done at the helm. After 3 years of Parliament putting themselves first instead of the public, it's a breath of fresh air.
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Re: Boris Watch

Post by aggi » Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:17 pm

Spiral wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:57 pm
I don't think that's what a bot is or how it works (I know you're only joking).

Anyhow, as mentioned above this is a thread about Boris Johnson, not any poster on here. If you cede your vigilance towards an authority - especially if you've internalised that this needs to be done in exchange for them 'delivering' - you're essentially asking to be bent over and shafted without lube. Repeatedly, and often. It's democratically irresponsible. Be weary of this fact. Defend your views, argue your politics, by all means, but have a bit of self respect and resist the urge to fight a partisan battle on behalf of an authority, especially in such a petty manner as shown in post #2. The PM, whomever that is, should be capable of standing up for him/herself.

The bridge farce is my favourite farce since the election because it's quite an off-brand farce in how unharmful the farce is; there's very little human cost to that farce.

"Lets build a bridge from Scotland to Ireland, let's get in DONE!"
"We can't"
"Why?"
"Deep sea munitions dump"
"Oh..."
...
...
...
"My horse is now consul"
That bridge farce was very well done. On the day that it was announced that there'd be border checks, disruption, etc all the news was focused on a bridge that was never going to be built.

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by Clarets4me » Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:31 pm

It may well prove to be a refreshing change to have a Prime Minister that, now he has his preferred team in place, actually let's Cabinet Ministers get on with running their Departments without constant meddling and bullying from No.10 ....
Blair and Brown were both famously interfering, Cameron was slightly better, whereas Mrs May was meddling, weak, indecisive, and tried to micro-manage every detail !

Two other thoughts, firstly, the best thing a PM can do in a crisis, is to stay away and let the teams on the ground do their jobs. No concerns about security, protocol, accommodating the world's media etc . Secondly, Boris seems to have ideas, this is a refreshing change. It was said of Churchill that a third of his ideas were " barking mad ", another third had merit but were impracticable, and the last third were genius ! And no, I'm not saying Boris is another Churchill !

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by aggi » Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:40 pm

Clarets4me wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:31 pm
It may well prove to be a refreshing change to have a Prime Minister that, now he has his preferred team in place, actually let's Cabinet Ministers get on with running their Departments without constant meddling and bullying from No.10 ....
Blair and Brown were both famously interfering, Cameron was slightly better, whereas Mrs May was meddling, weak, indecisive, and tried to micro-manage every detail !

Two other thoughts, firstly, the best thing a PM can do in a crisis, is to stay away and let the teams on the ground do their jobs. No concerns about security, protocol, accommodating the world's media etc . Secondly, Boris seems to have ideas, this is a refreshing change. It was said of Churchill that a third of his ideas were " barking mad ", another third had merit but were impracticable, and the last third were genius ! And no, I'm not saying Boris is another Churchill !
I think you may have missed the Chancellor quitting due to the PM meddling with his department a week ago.
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Re: Boris Watch

Post by Clarets4me » Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:59 pm

aggi wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:40 pm
I think you may have missed the Chancellor quitting due to the PM meddling with his department a week ago.
I think you may have missed " Now that he has his preferred team in place " ... :)
It's high time that the Treasury mandarins had their " wings clipped " in any event ..
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Re: Boris Watch

Post by aggi » Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:06 pm

Clarets4me wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:59 pm
I think you may have missed " Now that he has his preferred team in place " ... :)
It's high time that the Treasury mandarins had their " wings clipped " in any event ..
Ah, you meant that it will no longer be classed as meddling as he will have sacked everyone so there is no one left to meddle with.

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by Mala591 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:23 pm

Clarets4me wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:31 pm
It may well prove to be a refreshing change to have a Prime Minister that, now he has his preferred team in place, actually let's Cabinet Ministers get on with running their Departments without constant meddling and bullying from No.10 ....
Blair and Brown were both famously interfering, Cameron was slightly better, whereas Mrs May was meddling, weak, indecisive, and tried to micro-manage every detail !

Two other thoughts, firstly, the best thing a PM can do in a crisis, is to stay away and let the teams on the ground do their jobs. No concerns about security, protocol, accommodating the world's media etc . Secondly, Boris seems to have ideas, this is a refreshing change. It was said of Churchill that a third of his ideas were " barking mad ", another third had merit but were impracticable, and the last third were genius ! And no, I'm not saying Boris is another Churchill !
Female opposition MP to Churchill: ' Sir, if you were my husband I would poison your coffee! '

Churchill: ' Madam, if you were my wife I would drink it! '

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by Vino blanco » Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:04 pm

Lady Astor, I believe.
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Re: Boris Watch

Post by BigRedrose » Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:07 pm

'Abandoned his new friends in the north...'

Appointed local Pendle MP Andrew Stephenson (and non Oxbridge graduate) as Minister for HS2, with responsibility for the Transpennine and Northern Powerhouse Rail routes.

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by Spijed » Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:14 pm

Clarets4me wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:31 pm
Secondly, Boris seems to have ideas, this is a refreshing change.
How many times does it need repeating?

Boris had ideas for London and EVERY SINGLE ONE has turned out to be a disaster!

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by aggi » Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:23 pm

Spijed wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:14 pm
How many times does it need repeating?

Boris had ideas for London and EVERY SINGLE ONE has turned out to be a disaster!
Nah, the most expensive cable car in the world was a great idea.

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by Bosscat » Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:09 pm

Apparently the watch Boris wears is a Patek Phillipe Calatrava possible 32mm 3520 or 35mm 5120

https://www.google.com/amp/s/forums.wat ... ml%3famp=1

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by Damo » Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:23 pm

Rileybobs will be along any minute...

Counting how many posts you have made about Boris, and calling you all childish

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by Rileybobs » Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:44 pm

Damo wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:23 pm
Rileybobs will be along any minute...

Counting how many posts you have made about Boris, and calling you all childish
Are your non-existent grandchildren reaping the post-Brexit rewards yet, Damo?

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by Damo » Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:49 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:44 pm
Are your non-existent grandchildren reaping the post-Brexit rewards yet, Damo?
:lol:
Triggered

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by Rileybobs » Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:52 pm

Damo wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:49 pm
:lol:
Triggered
Double triggered. So ner.

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by nil_desperandum » Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:55 pm

BigRedrose wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:07 pm
'Abandoned his new friends in the north...'

Appointed local Pendle MP Andrew Stephenson (and non Oxbridge graduate) as Minister for HS2, with responsibility for the Transpennine and Northern Powerhouse Rail routes.
If ever there was a poisoned chalice then Stephenson has had it passed to him.
Maybe he'll be the new Chris Grayling.

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by Spiral » Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:10 am

aggi wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:17 pm
That bridge farce was very well done. On the day that it was announced that there'd be border checks, disruption, etc all the news was focused on a bridge that was never going to be built.
Boris should write a children's story, The Cat and the Table. If cats had souls (which they don't) then it's possible they'd have Gods; and if they had Gods they'd have a heaven; and if they had a heaven they'd have a hell; and this hell needs its concierge and its name is Boris; and Boris - newly proselytised, unbound by conventional Human Fates, becoming of his Faustian pact - will be there, someday, waiting, grinning, grinning like a Cheshire...cat, ready to receive those feline sinners; for cosmic justice divines this outcome in remittance for the terrible scale of felicide committed by Boris for reasons no more complicated than to spoil a table or two, and this hell will call to Boris, and Boris will heed this calling, and alas, he will embrace it, and he will rejoice, and Lo, fallen felines will not tremble before him but be defiled by his fork-tongued deceit, and he will call himself...


































The Lion King.

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by Cryssys » Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:15 am

Targetman wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:56 pm
What concerns me is that you think that you have the right to tell other people what they should or should not be concerned about!
Is that the best you can come up with?

Of course people should be concerned about what our PM is doing or are you suggesting they shouldn't?

Stop being such a pious snowflake.

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by Cryssys » Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:41 am

claretandy wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:47 am
Bad case of Boris derangement syndrome you've got there, i'd see a doctor about it if i were you.
Hur Hur! Dats very funny!



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Re: Boris Watch

Post by Bullabill » Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:44 am

Clarets4me wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:31 pm


Two other thoughts, firstly, the best thing a PM can do in a crisis, is to stay away and let the teams on the ground do their jobs.



............ Didn't work too well for the Aussie PM !

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by Burnley Ace » Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:47 am

I don’t understand this obsession with Johnson turning up at a flood site - what’s the point? He’d be criticised for doing a Corbin (politicking, platitudes and diverting resources) or for his mopping technique etc. Stay away and let people get on with their job.

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by Burnley Ace » Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:50 am

Cryssys wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:15 am

Of course people should be concerned about what our PM is doing or are you suggesting they shouldn't?
It’s such a childish And partisan OP it’s almost like it’s been copied from the blog of a student union activist. Admit it, you don’t know what he does or doesn’t do.
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Re: Boris Watch

Post by joey13 » Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:52 am

Burnley Ace wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:47 am
I don’t understand this obsession with Johnson turning up at a flood site - what’s the point? He’d be criticised for doing a Corbin (politicking, platitudes and diverting resources) or for his mopping technique etc. Stay away and let people get on with their job.
Cooper was slagged off for not turning up in Padiham, I suppose this was justified though

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:38 am

joey13 wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:52 am
Cooper was slagged off for not turning up in Padiham, I suppose this was justified though
Oh she turned up alright. Had a picture taken in front of all the helpers for the Burnley express and left within 10 minutes.

Organising nothing for the town.

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by tiger76 » Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:39 am

Burnley Ace wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:47 am
I don’t understand this obsession with Johnson turning up at a flood site - what’s the point? He’d be criticised for doing a Corbin (politicking, platitudes and diverting resources) or for his mopping technique etc. Stay away and let people get on with their job.
I agree with your points,however it must be mentioned he visited flood affected areas during the election campaign,

And why Corbyn was there goodness only knows,he'll be out the door in a few weeks anyway.

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by Cryssys » Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:50 am

Burnley Ace wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:50 am
It’s such a childish And partisan OP it’s almost like it’s been copied from the blog of a student union activist. Admit it, you don’t know what he does or doesn’t do.
It's childish he says and then in the best traditions of the playground goes on to say; "Admit it, you don’t know what he does or doesn’t do"

Anyway, I don't care what you think cos my dad's bigger than yours!

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by Burnley Ace » Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:46 pm

Cryssys wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:50 am
It's childish he says and then in the best traditions of the playground goes on to say; "Admit it, you don’t know what he does or doesn’t do"

Anyway, I don't care what you think cos my dad's bigger than yours!
Not sure why you think it’s childish to highlight that you don’t know what he does and just make “facts” up?

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by aggi » Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:53 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:46 pm
Not sure why you think it’s childish to highlight that you don’t know what he does and just make “facts” up?
I've got to say that they all look like things that have actually happened rather than made up.

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by Burnley Ace » Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:02 pm

aggi wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:53 pm
I've got to say that they all look like things that have actually happened rather than made up.
1. No it wasn’t
2. No he didn’t
3. No he hasn’t
4. No he doesn’t
5) and?
6) temporarily
7) and?
8. No he hasn’t. Post a link to this refusal
9. No he hasn’t
10. No this to release

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by Cryssys » Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:03 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:46 pm
Not sure why you think it’s childish to highlight that you don’t know what he does and just make “facts” up?
Oh the irony. You accuse me of making things up then make something up about me not knowing what the PM does! How very grown up of you.

OK Mr Clever Clogs, tell me what I've made up and I'll tell you what the PM does

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by Burnley Ace » Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:04 pm

I just written a list of what you have just made up.

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by Cryssys » Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:42 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:02 pm
1. No it wasn’t
Yes he did. He told his chancellor that he had to sack his entire team of advisers if he wanted to keep his job. In the circumstances he had no alternative other than to resign. That's constructive dismissal in my book.

2. No he didn’t.
Yes he did. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... tory-donor

3. No he hasn’t
Yes he has.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 57586.html

4. No he doesn’t.
Yes he does. He ran away from Andrew Neill, has been empty chaired on previous occasions. When was the last time you saw him in a one on one interview

5) and?
Do you believe that an elitist cabinet such as the one we have will have the interest of the ordinary person at the heart of their policies?

6) temporarily
We'll see. What it does prove is that privatising the railways has given us one of the most expensive and least efficient services in Europe

7) and? Really? It was a remarkably dumb idea that's why

8. No he hasn’t. Post a link to this refusal
Here you go https://www.google.com/search?q=pm+refu ... e&ie=UTF-8

9. No he hasn’t.
Granted he finally made an appearance but he had been conspicuous by his absence. I'd guess that had the boot been on the other foot that you would have had something to say.

10. No this to release
Not sure what you mean. Are you suggesting that it should not be released?
So, tell me again that I've made stuff up.
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Re: Boris Watch

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by ksrclaret » Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:03 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:58 pm
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ur such a gud ditectiv m8 well dun m8 u av solved it m8 it must be gud 2 av so much time on ur hands m8 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by jojomk1 » Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:13 pm

It's called delegation
Let the guys who are responsible for these areas get on with their job
Johnson being there would only turn it into a media circus
Took Corbyn long enough to get there (for publicity purposes) and he has nowt else to do

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by Cryssys » Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:18 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:04 pm
I just written a list of what you have just made up.
If you've read my response then you'll know I didn't make anything up. Everything I said is true.

Rather than just saying "no he didn't" or whatever, why don't you try addressing the points I've made?

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by Bosscat » Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:34 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:03 pm
ur such a gud ditectiv m8 well dun m8 u av solved it m8 it must be gud 2 av so much time on ur hands m8 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Perhaps you would be better employed learning how to spell ;)

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by Cryssys » Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:44 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:04 pm
I just written a list of what you have just made up.
Something else for you consider.

He tried to ban certain reporters/papers he considers unfriendly from attending a briefing at No10. As a result the rest of the reporters walked out in protest.

Doesn't that kind of behaviour raise serious questions in your mind? How would you have reacted had a Labour government tried to do the same?

Are you so committed that you have lost all objectivity?

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by Burnley Ace » Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:46 pm

Cryssys wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:18 pm
If you've read my response then you'll know I didn't make anything up. Everything I said is true.

Rather than just saying "no he didn't" or whatever, why don't you try addressing the points I've made?
1. It can’t be constructive dismissal if the job is by invitation and there’s no contract.
2. He declared it as a benefit in kind with a value of £15k arranged by David Ross
3. A decision by Downing Street not Johnson. There is no obligation to appear on the Today programme.
4. He didn’t run away it’s his choice who he gives interviews to
5. So you don’t want graduates from the 2 of the top 10 universities in the world because it doesn’t fit with your social justice program? They will impliment the policy that they were voted in to do.
6. One franchise, the difficulties with rail aren’t due to privatisation.
7. Connecting Ireland to Scotland is dumb? Probably, especially now we have left the EU we need to make it as difficult as possible for Ireland to export.
8. A no. 10 spokesman refused to comment on someone, where’s your link to Johnson being asked?
9. He’s not abandoned anyone. He hasn’t done a Corbyn and jumped on the bandwagon.
10. It’s not up to him to release the report as he has made clear on ever occasion he’s been asked.

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by Burnley Ace » Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:48 pm

Cryssys wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:44 pm
Something else for you consider.

He tried to ban certain reporters/papers he considers unfriendly from attending a briefing at No10. As a result the rest of the reporters walked out in protest.

Doesn't that kind of behaviour raise serious questions in your mind? How would you have reacted had a Labour government tried to do the same?

Are you so committed that you have lost all objectivity?
Again he didn’t ban the reporter, it wasn’t a government briefing and the room was full.

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by Taffy on the wing » Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:53 pm

aggi wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:40 pm
I think you may have missed the Chancellor quitting due to the PM meddling with his department a week ago.
He can't see it!.....he has his Boris fan-boy glasses on :lol:

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by Bfcboyo » Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:43 am

Taffy on the wing wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:53 pm
He can't see it!.....he has his Boris fan-boy glasses on :lol:
It is easier to see through them than crammed into Corbyn's anus with a few million lemming muppets.

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by aggi » Sat Feb 22, 2020 3:10 am

Burnley Ace wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:48 pm
Again he didn’t ban the reporter, it wasn’t a government briefing and the room was full.
Not even those involved tried to spin it like this. The decision could be justified in a few ways but just making stuff up is pretty desperate.

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Feb 22, 2020 3:53 am

aggi wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2020 3:10 am
Not even those involved tried to spin it like this. The decision could be justified in a few ways but just making stuff up is pretty desperate.
Or perhaps keep your friends close & your enemies closer, if you permit a side thought without opaqueness. DD & the TV licence row seems to be centre stage now, no doubt the historians employed will be a better calibre & to AndrewJBs liking, as forewarned months ago of a price hike if the complaints didn’t cease.

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by Taffy on the wing » Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:20 am

Bfcboyo wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:43 am
It is easier to see through them than crammed into Corbyn's anus with a few million lemming muppets.
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Re: Boris Watch

Post by AndrewJB » Sat Feb 22, 2020 7:22 am

Burnley Ace wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:46 pm
1. It can’t be constructive dismissal if the job is by invitation and there’s no contract.
2. He declared it as a benefit in kind with a value of £15k arranged by David Ross
3. A decision by Downing Street not Johnson. There is no obligation to appear on the Today programme.
4. He didn’t run away it’s his choice who he gives interviews to
5. So you don’t want graduates from the 2 of the top 10 universities in the world because it doesn’t fit with your social justice program? They will impliment the policy that they were voted in to do.
6. One franchise, the difficulties with rail aren’t due to privatisation.
7. Connecting Ireland to Scotland is dumb? Probably, especially now we have left the EU we need to make it as difficult as possible for Ireland to export.
8. A no. 10 spokesman refused to comment on someone, where’s your link to Johnson being asked?
9. He’s not abandoned anyone. He hasn’t done a Corbyn and jumped on the bandwagon.
10. It’s not up to him to release the report as he has made clear on ever occasion he’s been asked.
Really desperate stuff. An ordinary member of the public spinning for Johnson. How cheaply you’ve sold off your credibility.

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by AndrewJB » Sat Feb 22, 2020 7:25 am

Bfcboyo wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:43 am
It is easier to see through them than crammed into Corbyn's anus with a few million lemming muppets.
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Re: Boris Watch

Post by Bfcboyo » Sat Feb 22, 2020 7:27 am

Not at all.

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Re: Boris Watch

Post by Bfcboyo » Sat Feb 22, 2020 7:34 am

Boris is doing something right guys he has the majority of the country backing him.

Corbyn is a narcassistic dictator he should have exiled himself from view from any media and gone to live in a cave after his disgrace. He now talks about a different role. If Labour don't get themselves on the right path soon we can call it another 20 years in the wilderness.

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