I didn't vote for him, but I'm glad the country has someone who wants to get things done at the helm. After 3 years of Parliament putting themselves first instead of the public, it's a breath of fresh air.
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That bridge farce was very well done. On the day that it was announced that there'd be border checks, disruption, etc all the news was focused on a bridge that was never going to be built.Spiral wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:57 pmI don't think that's what a bot is or how it works (I know you're only joking).
Anyhow, as mentioned above this is a thread about Boris Johnson, not any poster on here. If you cede your vigilance towards an authority - especially if you've internalised that this needs to be done in exchange for them 'delivering' - you're essentially asking to be bent over and shafted without lube. Repeatedly, and often. It's democratically irresponsible. Be weary of this fact. Defend your views, argue your politics, by all means, but have a bit of self respect and resist the urge to fight a partisan battle on behalf of an authority, especially in such a petty manner as shown in post #2. The PM, whomever that is, should be capable of standing up for him/herself.
The bridge farce is my favourite farce since the election because it's quite an off-brand farce in how unharmful the farce is; there's very little human cost to that farce.
"Lets build a bridge from Scotland to Ireland, let's get in DONE!"
"We can't"
"Why?"
"Deep sea munitions dump"
"Oh..."
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"My horse is now consul"
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It may well prove to be a refreshing change to have a Prime Minister that, now he has his preferred team in place, actually let's Cabinet Ministers get on with running their Departments without constant meddling and bullying from No.10 ....
Blair and Brown were both famously interfering, Cameron was slightly better, whereas Mrs May was meddling, weak, indecisive, and tried to micro-manage every detail !
Two other thoughts, firstly, the best thing a PM can do in a crisis, is to stay away and let the teams on the ground do their jobs. No concerns about security, protocol, accommodating the world's media etc . Secondly, Boris seems to have ideas, this is a refreshing change. It was said of Churchill that a third of his ideas were " barking mad ", another third had merit but were impracticable, and the last third were genius ! And no, I'm not saying Boris is another Churchill !
Blair and Brown were both famously interfering, Cameron was slightly better, whereas Mrs May was meddling, weak, indecisive, and tried to micro-manage every detail !
Two other thoughts, firstly, the best thing a PM can do in a crisis, is to stay away and let the teams on the ground do their jobs. No concerns about security, protocol, accommodating the world's media etc . Secondly, Boris seems to have ideas, this is a refreshing change. It was said of Churchill that a third of his ideas were " barking mad ", another third had merit but were impracticable, and the last third were genius ! And no, I'm not saying Boris is another Churchill !
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I think you may have missed the Chancellor quitting due to the PM meddling with his department a week ago.Clarets4me wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:31 pmIt may well prove to be a refreshing change to have a Prime Minister that, now he has his preferred team in place, actually let's Cabinet Ministers get on with running their Departments without constant meddling and bullying from No.10 ....
Blair and Brown were both famously interfering, Cameron was slightly better, whereas Mrs May was meddling, weak, indecisive, and tried to micro-manage every detail !
Two other thoughts, firstly, the best thing a PM can do in a crisis, is to stay away and let the teams on the ground do their jobs. No concerns about security, protocol, accommodating the world's media etc . Secondly, Boris seems to have ideas, this is a refreshing change. It was said of Churchill that a third of his ideas were " barking mad ", another third had merit but were impracticable, and the last third were genius ! And no, I'm not saying Boris is another Churchill !
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I think you may have missed " Now that he has his preferred team in place " ...
It's high time that the Treasury mandarins had their " wings clipped " in any event ..
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Ah, you meant that it will no longer be classed as meddling as he will have sacked everyone so there is no one left to meddle with.Clarets4me wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:59 pmI think you may have missed " Now that he has his preferred team in place " ...
It's high time that the Treasury mandarins had their " wings clipped " in any event ..
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Female opposition MP to Churchill: ' Sir, if you were my husband I would poison your coffee! 'Clarets4me wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:31 pmIt may well prove to be a refreshing change to have a Prime Minister that, now he has his preferred team in place, actually let's Cabinet Ministers get on with running their Departments without constant meddling and bullying from No.10 ....
Blair and Brown were both famously interfering, Cameron was slightly better, whereas Mrs May was meddling, weak, indecisive, and tried to micro-manage every detail !
Two other thoughts, firstly, the best thing a PM can do in a crisis, is to stay away and let the teams on the ground do their jobs. No concerns about security, protocol, accommodating the world's media etc . Secondly, Boris seems to have ideas, this is a refreshing change. It was said of Churchill that a third of his ideas were " barking mad ", another third had merit but were impracticable, and the last third were genius ! And no, I'm not saying Boris is another Churchill !
Churchill: ' Madam, if you were my wife I would drink it! '
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'Abandoned his new friends in the north...'
Appointed local Pendle MP Andrew Stephenson (and non Oxbridge graduate) as Minister for HS2, with responsibility for the Transpennine and Northern Powerhouse Rail routes.
Appointed local Pendle MP Andrew Stephenson (and non Oxbridge graduate) as Minister for HS2, with responsibility for the Transpennine and Northern Powerhouse Rail routes.
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How many times does it need repeating?Clarets4me wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:31 pmSecondly, Boris seems to have ideas, this is a refreshing change.
Boris had ideas for London and EVERY SINGLE ONE has turned out to be a disaster!
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Apparently the watch Boris wears is a Patek Phillipe Calatrava possible 32mm 3520 or 35mm 5120
https://www.google.com/amp/s/forums.wat ... ml%3famp=1
https://www.google.com/amp/s/forums.wat ... ml%3famp=1
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Rileybobs will be along any minute...
Counting how many posts you have made about Boris, and calling you all childish
Counting how many posts you have made about Boris, and calling you all childish
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If ever there was a poisoned chalice then Stephenson has had it passed to him.BigRedrose wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:07 pm'Abandoned his new friends in the north...'
Appointed local Pendle MP Andrew Stephenson (and non Oxbridge graduate) as Minister for HS2, with responsibility for the Transpennine and Northern Powerhouse Rail routes.
Maybe he'll be the new Chris Grayling.
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Boris should write a children's story, The Cat and the Table. If cats had souls (which they don't) then it's possible they'd have Gods; and if they had Gods they'd have a heaven; and if they had a heaven they'd have a hell; and this hell needs its concierge and its name is Boris; and Boris - newly proselytised, unbound by conventional Human Fates, becoming of his Faustian pact - will be there, someday, waiting, grinning, grinning like a Cheshire...cat, ready to receive those feline sinners; for cosmic justice divines this outcome in remittance for the terrible scale of felicide committed by Boris for reasons no more complicated than to spoil a table or two, and this hell will call to Boris, and Boris will heed this calling, and alas, he will embrace it, and he will rejoice, and Lo, fallen felines will not tremble before him but be defiled by his fork-tongued deceit, and he will call himself...
The Lion King.
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Is that the best you can come up with?
Of course people should be concerned about what our PM is doing or are you suggesting they shouldn't?
Stop being such a pious snowflake.
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Hur Hur! Dats very funny!claretandy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:47 amBad case of Boris derangement syndrome you've got there, i'd see a doctor about it if i were you.
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Clarets4me wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:31 pm
Two other thoughts, firstly, the best thing a PM can do in a crisis, is to stay away and let the teams on the ground do their jobs.
............ Didn't work too well for the Aussie PM !
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I don’t understand this obsession with Johnson turning up at a flood site - what’s the point? He’d be criticised for doing a Corbin (politicking, platitudes and diverting resources) or for his mopping technique etc. Stay away and let people get on with their job.
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It’s such a childish And partisan OP it’s almost like it’s been copied from the blog of a student union activist. Admit it, you don’t know what he does or doesn’t do.
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Cooper was slagged off for not turning up in Padiham, I suppose this was justified thoughBurnley Ace wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:47 amI don’t understand this obsession with Johnson turning up at a flood site - what’s the point? He’d be criticised for doing a Corbin (politicking, platitudes and diverting resources) or for his mopping technique etc. Stay away and let people get on with their job.
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I agree with your points,however it must be mentioned he visited flood affected areas during the election campaign,Burnley Ace wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:47 amI don’t understand this obsession with Johnson turning up at a flood site - what’s the point? He’d be criticised for doing a Corbin (politicking, platitudes and diverting resources) or for his mopping technique etc. Stay away and let people get on with their job.
And why Corbyn was there goodness only knows,he'll be out the door in a few weeks anyway.
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It's childish he says and then in the best traditions of the playground goes on to say; "Admit it, you don’t know what he does or doesn’t do"Burnley Ace wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:50 amIt’s such a childish And partisan OP it’s almost like it’s been copied from the blog of a student union activist. Admit it, you don’t know what he does or doesn’t do.
Anyway, I don't care what you think cos my dad's bigger than yours!
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Not sure why you think it’s childish to highlight that you don’t know what he does and just make “facts” up?
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I've got to say that they all look like things that have actually happened rather than made up.Burnley Ace wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:46 pmNot sure why you think it’s childish to highlight that you don’t know what he does and just make “facts” up?
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1. No it wasn’t
2. No he didn’t
3. No he hasn’t
4. No he doesn’t
5) and?
6) temporarily
7) and?
8. No he hasn’t. Post a link to this refusal
9. No he hasn’t
10. No this to release
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Oh the irony. You accuse me of making things up then make something up about me not knowing what the PM does! How very grown up of you.Burnley Ace wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:46 pmNot sure why you think it’s childish to highlight that you don’t know what he does and just make “facts” up?
OK Mr Clever Clogs, tell me what I've made up and I'll tell you what the PM does
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I just written a list of what you have just made up.
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So, tell me again that I've made stuff up.Burnley Ace wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:02 pm1. No it wasn’t
Yes he did. He told his chancellor that he had to sack his entire team of advisers if he wanted to keep his job. In the circumstances he had no alternative other than to resign. That's constructive dismissal in my book.
2. No he didn’t.
Yes he did. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... tory-donor
3. No he hasn’t
Yes he has.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 57586.html
4. No he doesn’t.
Yes he does. He ran away from Andrew Neill, has been empty chaired on previous occasions. When was the last time you saw him in a one on one interview
5) and?
Do you believe that an elitist cabinet such as the one we have will have the interest of the ordinary person at the heart of their policies?
6) temporarily
We'll see. What it does prove is that privatising the railways has given us one of the most expensive and least efficient services in Europe
7) and? Really? It was a remarkably dumb idea that's why
8. No he hasn’t. Post a link to this refusal
Here you go https://www.google.com/search?q=pm+refu ... e&ie=UTF-8
9. No he hasn’t.
Granted he finally made an appearance but he had been conspicuous by his absence. I'd guess that had the boot been on the other foot that you would have had something to say.
10. No this to release
Not sure what you mean. Are you suggesting that it should not be released?
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It's called delegation
Let the guys who are responsible for these areas get on with their job
Johnson being there would only turn it into a media circus
Took Corbyn long enough to get there (for publicity purposes) and he has nowt else to do
Let the guys who are responsible for these areas get on with their job
Johnson being there would only turn it into a media circus
Took Corbyn long enough to get there (for publicity purposes) and he has nowt else to do
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If you've read my response then you'll know I didn't make anything up. Everything I said is true.
Rather than just saying "no he didn't" or whatever, why don't you try addressing the points I've made?
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Something else for you consider.
He tried to ban certain reporters/papers he considers unfriendly from attending a briefing at No10. As a result the rest of the reporters walked out in protest.
Doesn't that kind of behaviour raise serious questions in your mind? How would you have reacted had a Labour government tried to do the same?
Are you so committed that you have lost all objectivity?
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1. It can’t be constructive dismissal if the job is by invitation and there’s no contract.
2. He declared it as a benefit in kind with a value of £15k arranged by David Ross
3. A decision by Downing Street not Johnson. There is no obligation to appear on the Today programme.
4. He didn’t run away it’s his choice who he gives interviews to
5. So you don’t want graduates from the 2 of the top 10 universities in the world because it doesn’t fit with your social justice program? They will impliment the policy that they were voted in to do.
6. One franchise, the difficulties with rail aren’t due to privatisation.
7. Connecting Ireland to Scotland is dumb? Probably, especially now we have left the EU we need to make it as difficult as possible for Ireland to export.
8. A no. 10 spokesman refused to comment on someone, where’s your link to Johnson being asked?
9. He’s not abandoned anyone. He hasn’t done a Corbyn and jumped on the bandwagon.
10. It’s not up to him to release the report as he has made clear on ever occasion he’s been asked.
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Again he didn’t ban the reporter, it wasn’t a government briefing and the room was full.Cryssys wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:44 pmSomething else for you consider.
He tried to ban certain reporters/papers he considers unfriendly from attending a briefing at No10. As a result the rest of the reporters walked out in protest.
Doesn't that kind of behaviour raise serious questions in your mind? How would you have reacted had a Labour government tried to do the same?
Are you so committed that you have lost all objectivity?
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It is easier to see through them than crammed into Corbyn's anus with a few million lemming muppets.Taffy on the wing wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:53 pmHe can't see it!.....he has his Boris fan-boy glasses on
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Not even those involved tried to spin it like this. The decision could be justified in a few ways but just making stuff up is pretty desperate.Burnley Ace wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:48 pmAgain he didn’t ban the reporter, it wasn’t a government briefing and the room was full.
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Or perhaps keep your friends close & your enemies closer, if you permit a side thought without opaqueness. DD & the TV licence row seems to be centre stage now, no doubt the historians employed will be a better calibre & to AndrewJBs liking, as forewarned months ago of a price hike if the complaints didn’t cease.
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Really desperate stuff. An ordinary member of the public spinning for Johnson. How cheaply you’ve sold off your credibility.Burnley Ace wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:46 pm1. It can’t be constructive dismissal if the job is by invitation and there’s no contract.
2. He declared it as a benefit in kind with a value of £15k arranged by David Ross
3. A decision by Downing Street not Johnson. There is no obligation to appear on the Today programme.
4. He didn’t run away it’s his choice who he gives interviews to
5. So you don’t want graduates from the 2 of the top 10 universities in the world because it doesn’t fit with your social justice program? They will impliment the policy that they were voted in to do.
6. One franchise, the difficulties with rail aren’t due to privatisation.
7. Connecting Ireland to Scotland is dumb? Probably, especially now we have left the EU we need to make it as difficult as possible for Ireland to export.
8. A no. 10 spokesman refused to comment on someone, where’s your link to Johnson being asked?
9. He’s not abandoned anyone. He hasn’t done a Corbyn and jumped on the bandwagon.
10. It’s not up to him to release the report as he has made clear on ever occasion he’s been asked.
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Not at all.
Palm reader?
Palm reader?
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Boris is doing something right guys he has the majority of the country backing him.
Corbyn is a narcassistic dictator he should have exiled himself from view from any media and gone to live in a cave after his disgrace. He now talks about a different role. If Labour don't get themselves on the right path soon we can call it another 20 years in the wilderness.
Corbyn is a narcassistic dictator he should have exiled himself from view from any media and gone to live in a cave after his disgrace. He now talks about a different role. If Labour don't get themselves on the right path soon we can call it another 20 years in the wilderness.