Full beams or Halogens

This Forum is the main messageboard to discuss all things Claret and Blue and beyond
Post Reply
ClaretAndJew
Posts: 8020
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:08 am
Been Liked: 2814 times
Has Liked: 503 times
Location: Earth

Full beams or Halogens

Post by ClaretAndJew » Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:58 am

A fun game I was playing during my early morning drive up the A59 to Leeds.

Why are lights so bright now?

Do drivers not notice or are they just used to it? Is there a conversation about this anywhere? It feels unsafe.

The Enclosure
Posts: 4486
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:29 am
Been Liked: 990 times
Has Liked: 3266 times
Location: Burnley

Re: Full beams or Halogens

Post by The Enclosure » Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:10 am

All the better to see you with my dear :D

beddie
Posts: 5135
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:10 pm
Been Liked: 1383 times
Has Liked: 511 times

Re: Full beams or Halogens

Post by beddie » Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:15 am

There definately a lot brighter than they were. I realIy hate driving in the dark now, never bothered me before but with so many 4x4 style vehicles being on the road it's awful when they come up behind you,even with their lights dipped it's hard to see in front of you, likewise coming towards you.
This user liked this post: The Enclosure

Nonayforever
Posts: 3271
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:15 pm
Been Liked: 690 times
Has Liked: 172 times

Re: Full beams or Halogens

Post by Nonayforever » Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:19 am

Its not just 4x4's, its the new LED's that all new vehicles have.

They are awful to approach oncoming traffic or be in front of in the dark. Its not the drivers fault either.

deanothedino
Posts: 1491
Joined: Thu Aug 17, 2017 10:34 am
Been Liked: 695 times
Has Liked: 293 times

Re: Full beams or Halogens

Post by deanothedino » Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:26 am

It's full LEDs, not Halogens which have been standard on most cars for years now, that are the blinding ones.

The reason lights are constantly getting brighter is that people are light blind. Full beams on when they're not needed constantly, bleating about no streetlights on the M65. They're so used to being bathed in light that they can't live without it and just want more and more. It needs to be legislated against. My current car has halogens but my new one will have full LEDs... unfortunately the options list doesn't include downgrading your lights.

Sproggy
Posts: 1447
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:41 pm
Been Liked: 662 times
Has Liked: 141 times

Re: Full beams or Halogens

Post by Sproggy » Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:39 am

I thought this thread might be about breast implants.

BigAlClaret
Posts: 122
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 3:57 pm
Been Liked: 50 times
Has Liked: 7 times

Re: Full beams or Halogens

Post by BigAlClaret » Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:53 am

The lights do seem brighter in recent years but too many drivers raise the headlight to its highest angle to see more and unwittingly dazzle an oncoming driver.
Secondly a sizeable minority of drivers insist on using foglights regardless of whether it's foggy or not.Again on a wet road surface this just increases any problems.
Thirdly drivers seem to switch from high beam to low beam when approaching any other traffic much later than ever rather than anticipating meeting anyone on corners or junctions.
I drive mainly at night and witness this misuse and also illegal use too often.Its become my biggest pet hate regarding driving and I can't decide whether it's down to poor training, overly complicated light control,powerful bulbs or simply lazy selfish driving.

Sorry folks I've waited years to get that lot off my chest.
Rant over......

UTC

deanothedino
Posts: 1491
Joined: Thu Aug 17, 2017 10:34 am
Been Liked: 695 times
Has Liked: 293 times

Re: Full beams or Halogens

Post by deanothedino » Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:00 am

BigAlClaret wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:53 am
Thirdly drivers seem to switch from high beam to low beam when approaching any other traffic much later than ever rather than anticipating meeting anyone on corners or junctions.
Worst on bends in dual carriageways as well, where some seem to think armco barriers have magical light blocking powers that will allow them to leave their full beam on without burning the retinas of anyone driving the other way.
This user liked this post: Zlatan

SammyBoy
Posts: 1452
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:41 pm
Been Liked: 469 times
Has Liked: 434 times
Location: Sector 7G

Re: Full beams or Halogens

Post by SammyBoy » Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:11 am

I can empathise with you, until recently my commute was the 70 mile round trip from Steeton to Ribchester, pretty much entirely on the A59 and being blinded by oncoming headlights was an every day occurrence.

Vintage Claret
Posts: 2201
Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2016 3:03 pm
Been Liked: 932 times
Has Liked: 607 times

Re: Full beams or Halogens

Post by Vintage Claret » Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:26 am

Thought it was just me and my aging glaucoma affected eyes that was noticing how bright headlights seem to be these days!

Agree with all the points made above and would add a pet hate of mine which is drivers parked on the same side of the road as oncoming traffic and facing the oncoming cars still with their headlights full on dazzling the approaching drivers.
These 2 users liked this post: JohnMac gawthorpe_view

houseboy
Posts: 7065
Joined: Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:43 pm
Been Liked: 2238 times
Has Liked: 1617 times
Location: Baxenden

Re: Full beams or Halogens

Post by houseboy » Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:33 am

I have been saying for a year or two now that LEDs should be banned as a safety issue, they f*ckin blind oncoming drivers as bad as people driving with full beam. Before my cataract op I could still legally drive with glasses (I now don't need them at all for driving - brilliant) but I got to the point where I avoided driving at night if I could because it was like watching a f*ckin Pink Floyd concert every time I went out, the light show was a major problem for me.

JohnMac
Posts: 7180
Joined: Sun Jan 17, 2016 6:11 pm
Been Liked: 2367 times
Has Liked: 3781 times
Location: Padiham

Re: Full beams or Halogens

Post by JohnMac » Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:44 am

I drove back from Harrogate yesterday evening and agree that some are blinding nowadays, especially the 4x4's as the lights are set higher.

Mala591
Posts: 1887
Joined: Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:02 pm
Been Liked: 681 times
Has Liked: 428 times

Re: Full beams or Halogens

Post by Mala591 » Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:04 am

A very important discussion thread and I agree that ageing definately reduces visual acuity (and also seems to increase visual glare) in poor light conditions. Maybe something our new MP could bring up as a Parliamentary question?

dpinsussex
Posts: 3554
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:15 am
Been Liked: 1047 times
Has Liked: 1187 times
Location: Reading

Re: Full beams or Halogens

Post by dpinsussex » Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:20 am

I have bought anti glare glasses to help. They even sit over the top of my normal spectacles. Everything goes yellow instead of that bright white. About 4 quid on Ebay. Best thing I ever bought to help with night time driving.
This user liked this post: Vintage Claret

BennyD
Posts: 3603
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:10 am
Been Liked: 1338 times
Has Liked: 757 times
Location: Nantwich

Re: Full beams or Halogens

Post by BennyD » Fri Feb 21, 2020 1:25 pm

I get dazzled so often these days I have to leave mine on full beam, as oncoming cars pass, just to see where I’m going.

BennyD
Posts: 3603
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:10 am
Been Liked: 1338 times
Has Liked: 757 times
Location: Nantwich

Re: Full beams or Halogens

Post by BennyD » Fri Feb 21, 2020 1:26 pm

I get dazzled so often these days I have to leave my LEDs on full beam, as oncoming cars pass, just so I can see where I’m going.

Giftonsnoidea
Posts: 1360
Joined: Mon Jun 06, 2016 9:56 pm
Been Liked: 225 times
Has Liked: 248 times

Re: Full beams or Halogens

Post by Giftonsnoidea » Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:19 pm

People that drive on full beam should be banned from driving or receive a ticket if spotted, my pet hate also and it’s always 4x4’s that do it, always seems to be some moron putting on full beam behind you because they can’t see properly!

Bosscat
Posts: 25362
Joined: Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:51 am
Been Liked: 8427 times
Has Liked: 18096 times

Re: Full beams or Halogens

Post by Bosscat » Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:21 pm

Sproggy wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:39 am
I thought this thread might be about breast implants.
Enough tits frequent these pages already sproggy ;)

Burnley1989
Posts: 7346
Joined: Sun Apr 08, 2018 2:19 am
Been Liked: 2275 times
Has Liked: 2154 times

Re: Full beams or Halogens

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:31 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:58 am
A fun game I was playing during my early morning drive up the A59 to Leeds.

Why are lights so bright now?

Do drivers not notice or are they just used to it? Is there a conversation about this anywhere? It feels unsafe.
Mine are far too bright, they’re blinding but were what came with the car. I’d change them if I cared enough but do sympathise with those I’m tailgating

chorleyhere
Posts: 2446
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:57 pm
Been Liked: 206 times
Has Liked: 257 times
Location: Chorley Lancs

Re: Full beams or Halogens

Post by chorleyhere » Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:11 pm

My old Qashqai had automatic hi to dip headlights but they used to recognise other pairs of lights occasionally and switch.

rob63
Posts: 935
Joined: Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:15 pm
Been Liked: 186 times
Has Liked: 586 times

Re: Full beams or Halogens

Post by rob63 » Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:12 pm

I much prefer my halogen hob to my old full-beam one

Volvoclaret
Posts: 1449
Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2017 12:45 pm
Been Liked: 664 times
Has Liked: 379 times

Re: Full beams or Halogens

Post by Volvoclaret » Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:19 pm

Poke out the eyes of ALL 4x4 owners.
Except those that live on farms of course. They actually need them. 4x4s And eyes.
Stupid, airheaded blonde hairdressers and arrogant middle managers dont need them, 4x4s and eyes

Rant over. I actually feel better for that

Post Reply