No pressure then, Nick

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No pressure then, Nick

Post by lakedistrictclaret » Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:11 am

Gareth Southgate will be at St.James's Park today to watch Nick Pope, before travelling to Goodison tomorrow to see Pickford.

Clean sheet please, Nick.

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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by IanMcL » Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:08 am

Just play your normal game Nick....and you Jordan and all will be well! ;)
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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by Bosscat » Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:20 am

IanMcL wrote:
Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:08 am
Just play your normal game Nick....and you Jordan and all will be well! ;)
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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by IanMcL » Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:14 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:20 am
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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by Bosscat » Sat Feb 29, 2020 2:44 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:14 pm
:lol:
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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by IanMcL » Sat Feb 29, 2020 2:47 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Sat Feb 29, 2020 2:44 pm
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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by tim_noone » Sat Feb 29, 2020 5:20 pm

lakedistrictclaret wrote:
Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:11 am
Gareth Southgate will be at St.James's Park today to watch Nick Pope, before travelling to Goodison tomorrow to see Pickford.

Clean sheet please, Nick.
Well done Nick!

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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Feb 29, 2020 5:22 pm

if he was a touch better with his feet (kicking) then he would be the best English keeper by a mile at this moment in time
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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by tim_noone » Sat Feb 29, 2020 5:31 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Feb 29, 2020 5:22 pm
if he was a touch better with his feet (kicking) then he would be the best English keeper by a mile at this moment in time
Half a mile is good enough for me though.
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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by alboclaret » Sat Feb 29, 2020 5:40 pm

Kicking is going to let him down I think. Pretty poor performance with is kicking today.
Better throwing when he can.

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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Feb 29, 2020 5:42 pm

Currently has the most clean sheets in the PL

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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Feb 29, 2020 5:43 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Feb 29, 2020 5:42 pm
Currently has the most clean sheets in the PL
One less than Alisson. Played 9 games more though.

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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Feb 29, 2020 5:49 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sat Feb 29, 2020 5:43 pm
One less than Alisson. Played 9 games more though.
not what the commentator on the game said - I just assumed he was correct :lol:

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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Feb 29, 2020 5:50 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Feb 29, 2020 5:49 pm
not what the commentator on the game said - I just assumed he was correct :lol:
Yeah think he’s on one less. May become two less if Liverpool keep Watford out.

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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by IanMcL » Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:16 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sat Feb 29, 2020 5:43 pm
One less than Alisson. Played 9 games more though.
Not in prem.

Pope rules

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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:20 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:16 pm
Not in prem.

Pope rules
Quite right. My mistake.

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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:20 pm

Top of the Golden glove league aftet Liverpools debacle at Watford

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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:21 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:20 pm
Top of the Golden glove league aftet Liverpools debacle at Watford
Forget England, he'll be getting a Brazil call up at this rate.
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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:26 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Feb 29, 2020 5:22 pm
if he was a touch better with his feet (kicking) then he would be the best English keeper by a mile at this moment in time

If only the person who makes the decision recognised that the priority for a goalkeeper was to prevent goals.
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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:31 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:26 pm
If only the person who makes the decision recognised that the priority for a goalkeeper was to prevent goals.
Whilst I'm not averse to making Pope England's number one, unforunately it doesn't quite work like that.

For example, if Pope's saving ability was 9/10 and his kicking ability was 4/10, and Pickford's respective attributes were 8/10 and 9/10 then that doesn't necessarily make Pope a better keeper, nor does it necessarily make him more suited to the England jersey.

Everybody knows that preventing goals is more important for a goalkeeper than being able to kick the ball, but Pickford is also a good shot stopper. Pickford is obviously considered a more rounded goalkeeper, although this season may see that view change. Southgate will pick the players he deems to be the best, there's no reason why he wouldn't.

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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by IanMcL » Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:48 pm

Pope's long kicks are nowadays, usually pretty accurate.
His throwing is good. His actual keeping excellent.

No 1 for most of the country.

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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by dougcollins » Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:38 pm

It's no big deal, Mr Southgate is regularly sat in the same seat at TM. It is the nearest PL ground to his house, I suppose his life will become a little easier in that respect when Leeds come up next year.

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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by rob63 » Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:21 pm

alboclaret wrote:
Sat Feb 29, 2020 5:40 pm
Kicking is going to let him down I think. Pretty poor performance with is kicking today.
Better throwing when he can.
Goalies don't throw the ball as much as they used to, in the 70's they'd chuck it to the halfway line pretty accurately.

I assumed at the time it'd stopped when they reduced the number of steps a GK could take, maybe time to bring it back now that they can wander round their box? Unless the lightweight balls make throwing less controllable now?

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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:34 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:38 pm
It's no big deal, Mr Southgate is regularly sat in the same seat at TM. It is the nearest PL ground to his house, I suppose his life will become a little easier in that respect when Leeds come up next year.
I don't think he's been here as often this season

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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by IanMcL » Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:19 am

He should come now! We're off to Europe.

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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:32 pm

shoe in, Pickford is crap

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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by IanMcL » Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:35 pm

Arm shrinking, body shrinking....he'll soon be signing on for Lilliput Giants
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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by BurnleyFC » Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:57 pm

Short arms Pickford should’ve stopped Fernandez’ equaliser there.

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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by dougcollins » Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:58 pm

Isn't the Sheff Utd guy favourite anyhow?

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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by IanMcL » Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:00 pm

Pope
Henderson
Ramsdale

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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by BurnleyFC » Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:09 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:58 pm
Isn't the Sheff Utd guy favourite anyhow?
He shouldn’t be after three quarters of a decent season.

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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by Somethingfishy » Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:13 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:58 pm
Isn't the Sheff Utd guy favourite anyhow?
Why should he jump the queue? His stats are no better than Popes. It is also only his first season of producing it in the Prem. Pope has more experience. He has certainly put himself in the 3 but certainly not as first choice.

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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by Paul Waine » Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:30 pm

Headline in the S.Times - online edition:

Burnley trio Nick Pope, Ben Mee and James Tarkowski reinforce England credentials

Kind of loses some of it's impact, with the game it is reporting on:

Newcastle 0 Burnley 0

UTC

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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:36 pm

He's got to be given the gloves in the next international.

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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by Spijed » Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:37 pm

Paul Waine wrote:
Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:30 pm
Headline in the S.Times - online edition:

Burnley trio Nick Pope, Ben Mee and James Tarkowski reinforce England credentials

Kind of loses some of it's impact, with the game it is reporting on:

Newcastle 0 Burnley 0

UTC
On current form Charlie Taylor is the best English left back in the Prem as well.
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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by Somethingfishy » Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:47 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:37 pm
On current form Charlie Taylor is the best English left back in the Prem as well.
I suspect Southgate wants full backs who are almost like wing backs. We know Chalie can cross a ball but that is not really how we play and not his strength.That will go against him.

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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by joey13 » Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:58 pm

Popes distribution lets him down
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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by IanMcL » Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:10 pm

joey13 wrote:
Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:58 pm
Popes distribution lets him down
Pickford's distribution, after picking the ball out of the net, is irrelevant.
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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by beddie » Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:11 pm

Pickfords double save this afternoon will give him the England start.

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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by BurnleyFC » Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:12 pm

joey13 wrote:
Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:58 pm
Popes distribution lets him down
Where as Pickfraud’s goalkeeping lets him down.
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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:35 pm

beddie wrote:
Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:11 pm
Pickfords double save this afternoon will give him the England start.
He flapped at the first one which enabled him to make the good recovery save. Making a decent save doesn’t chalk off yet another error.

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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by AfloatinClaret » Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:46 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:48 pm
Pope's long kicks are nowadays, usually pretty accurate...
They weren't that clever at St James' yesterday
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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by IanMcL » Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:31 pm

Windy.
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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:36 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:35 pm
He flapped at the first one which enabled him to make the good recovery save. Making a decent save doesn’t chalk off yet another error.
Southgate might not share that view, the view could be is that he made amends.

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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by dougcollins » Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:37 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:35 pm
He flapped at the first one which enabled him to make the good recovery save. Making a decent save doesn’t chalk off yet another error.

My view of it. I can guess that Pope would have stood firm and caught the first one by hardly moving a muscle.

Much more impressive for the media though what Pickfird did.
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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by KellyClaret » Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:39 pm

Somethingfishy wrote:
Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:13 pm
Why should he jump the queue? His stats are no better than Popes. It is also only his first season of producing it in the Prem. Pope has more experience. He has certainly put himself in the 3 but certainly not as first choice.
Some are better, some are worse but it depends which you want out of a keeper.

Pope has 2 more cleansheets but has played 2 games more than Hendserson.

Pope has conceded 39 vs Henderson's 22

Pope has made more saves but Henderson has a better save %. 75% vs. 69.29%

Pope has saved 33% of penalties vs Henderson's 50%

Pope has made more errors leading to a goal, 2 vs 1

Henderson has won more aerial duals

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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by Leisure » Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:40 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:36 pm
Southgate might not share that view, the view could be is that he made amends.
He conceded a soft goal. Not sure how then making a save makes amends? If he had saved the 'goal' then the course of the game would not have been the same and the 'save' wouldn't have occurred.

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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:45 pm

Leisure wrote:
Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:40 pm
He conceded a soft goal. Not sure how then making a save makes amends? If he had saved the 'goal' then the course of the game would not have been the same and the 'save' wouldn't have occurred.
We'll see, I don't think in the grand scheme of things anyway based on a decision, 1 game between nufc Vs bfc & efc Vs mu will be the decider, it's probably studied in greater depth with more analysis.

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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by dougcollins » Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:47 pm

Accidentally bumped onto Mr Southgate and Nick very much in his thinking. Really nice fella actually.

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Re: No pressure then, Nick

Post by Leisure » Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:48 pm

Well at least Pickford is at the joint top of the table of mistakes leading to a goal!

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