substitution

[pureclaret]

Sub and no injury on 57 mins whats happening?

[ClaretAndJew]

Vydra taking his place back on the bench. Wood will stay the rest of the games.

[bobinho]

I’m with C&J on this.

Anyone surprised this happened so quickly? You shouldn’t be. Can’t remember very many unforced SD subs earlier in a game than this.

[MRG]

Agreed, Dyche has got his boy back! Just lucky that Vydra didn’t score and mess things up for Dyche

[BurnleyFC]

You could’ve called that substitution at 2pm today when Vydra was announced in the starting line up.

Talk about bringing a player back down to Earth with a bump.

[KRBFC]

So negative today, from the moment Wood came on we sat deep and lumped it, time wasted at every opportunity. Why? why aren’t we going to win in the final 30? not like a point helps a tremendous amount. So disappointing to see Vydra hooked so quickly and I guess that’s the end of his Burnley career.

[BurnleyFC]

We’ve had far worse centre forward displays than the one Vydra put in for 57 minutes today but Dyche has kept them on regardless.

I understand that he still isn’t 100% match fit but he didn’t looked gassed.

It was a shitty thing to do to hook him so early, even more so when that is completely against what Dyche normally does.

[jrgbfc]

And as soon as Barnes is back Vydra will revert to 4th choice again. At least his little cameo will ensure we get a decent fee for him this summer.

[Vegas Claret]

to be fair, today wasn't the kind of game for Vydra - was always going to struggle against the height and size of the Newcastle CB's - just as Gayle etc did at the other end

[Rileybobs]

It was the right call. Dyche had our best centre forward and most potent goal scorer on the bench. We were struggling to break down a stubborn defence. 100% the right change and made an immediate impact. We then settled for the point which is still understandable considering our run of form and the fact that our first target will still be 40 points.

[Gordaleman]

Vydra taking his place back on the bench. Wood will stay the rest of the games.

We didn't do much after Vyds went off to be honest. Vyds wasn't the only one that was ineffective today to be fair.

[Taffy on the wing]

to be fair, today wasn't the kind of game for Vydra - was always going to struggle against the height and size of the Newcastle CB's - just as Gayle etc did at the other end

This.........he was going nowhere!
Usual whinging from the usual suspects.

[Rileybobs]

We didn't do much after Vyds went off to be honest.

We didn’t. But Wood is a threat from crosses and set pieces. If we were to win today it looked like it would most likely come from a set piece.

[Tricky Trevor]

to be fair, today wasn't the kind of game for Vydra - was always going to struggle against the height and size of the Newcastle CB's - just as Gayle etc did at the other end

I posted the other day it was the perfect match for him. They are excellent in the air against anybody but Vydras movement should have worried them and pulled them out of position. Sadly our passing was back to Xmas standards, we looked like strangers, so he never got going. Probably the correct decision to hook him but not his fault.

[fidelcastro]

How dare Dyche bring on our top scorer when we weren't creating much!

Ginger buffoon!

[Gordaleman]

I posted the other day it was the perfect match for him. They are excellent in the air against anybody but Vydras movement should have worried them and pulled them out of position. Sadly our passing was back to Xmas standards, we looked like strangers, so he never got going. Probably the correct decision to hook him but not his fault.

It was central midfield that was poor today. Hendrick and Cork didn't do much and even Westy struggled a bit. His corners keep him on though. Could've given Brownhill a run though.

[Vegas Claret]

I posted the other day it was the perfect match for him. They are excellent in the air against anybody but Vydras movement should have worried them and pulled them out of position. Sadly our passing was back to Xmas standards, we looked like strangers, so he never got going. Probably the correct decision to hook him but not his fault.

agree, there was minimal quality on show from both teams. Jay had the best chance when clean through and his finish summed the game up

[jrgbfc]

to be fair, today wasn't the kind of game for Vydra - was always going to struggle against the height and size of the Newcastle CB's - just as Gayle etc did at the other end

I don't know. I'd say big slow centre backs would be far happier playing against Wood than someone more mobile like Vydra. Suppose if the service isn't there it doesn't really matter who's upfront.

[Tricky Trevor]

agree, there was minimal quality on show from both teams. Jay had the best chance when clean through and his finish summed the game up

I think he’d seen the flag and was just leathering the ball.

[Vegas Claret]

I don't know. I'd say big slow centre backs would be far happier playing against Wood than someone more mobile like Vydra. Suppose if the service isn't there it doesn't really matter who's upfront.

exactly, there was no service

[Rileybobs]

I think he’d seen the flag and was just leathering the ball.

I think that was a poor excuse from Jay. In any case, if the flag goes up the player should still make every effort to score as we know how tight some of these calls are when reviewed.

[Jakubs Tash]

So negative today, from the moment Wood came on we sat deep and lumped it, time wasted at every opportunity. Why?

We didn't play any differently when Wood came on as when Vydra was on the pitch. The style didnt change one bit. Vydra wasn't on his own but he was fairly average today and never got to grips with the game. Dyche should be applauded for trying to change the game as early as he did.

[BurnleyFC]

It was the right call. Dyche had our best centre forward and most potent goal scorer on the bench. We were struggling to break down a stubborn defence. 100% the right change and made an immediate impact. We then settled for the point which is still understandable considering our run of form and the fact that our first target will still be 40 points.

It could’ve been the right call if Wood had come on and actually done anything, but he was arguably more ineffective than Vydra.

You’ve got a lad who’s waited an absolute age for a proper chance, has played really well the last two league games and is on cloud nine and then as soon as he has a quiet half is hooked, which is completely against what Dyche normally does.

Shitty man management by Dyche and smacks of him giving it the “I’m the boss” spiel.

[Tricky Trevor]

I think that was a poor excuse from Jay. In any case, if the flag goes up the player should still make every effort to score as we know how tight some of these calls are when reviewed.

More than fair point. The flag doesn’t stop the game but the whistle does. They have been told to play on and VAR review if scored, far to many linos can’t wait to get their flag up.

[bobinho]

Ok, so it wasnt the type of game that suited Vydra... let’s see him start the next game then. Or presumably every game from now on will be a “Wood” type game? When Wood is not even close to being in the game at Anfield in April, how long will he get? I ask these questions as a Wood fan! Vydra brings something different, but we are only benefitting from “different” when it’s forced.

Look, I get a change was “needed” but the counter argument is when it’s been needed in the past because of the ineffective tactics and set up, why have we not changed at 57 minutes and tried something else?

I’m a happy clapper, really I am. Everything Burnley is wonderful right now, but let’s at least be honest about how and why our team and tactics are what they are.

[Rileybobs]

It could’ve been the right call of Wood had come in and actually done anything, but he was arguably more ineffective than Vydra.

You’ve got a lad who’s waited an absolute age for a proper chance, has played really well the last two league games and is on cloud nine and then as soon as he has a quiet half is hooked, which is completely against what Dyche normally does.

Shitty man management by Dyche and smacks of him giving it the “I’m the boss” spiel.

Yes, because Dyche knew that Wood was going to come on and not score didn’t he - having psychic powers and all.

Dyche rightly left Vydra in the starting 11 today and gave him 60 minutes in which he was largely ineffective, not helped by poor service. Our top scorer and best striker was on the bench, why wouldn’t you bring him on with a good 30 minutes to get a goal?

I know people are desperate for Vydra to be some kind of hero, but the fact remains that he’s still our fourth choice striker.

Shitty man management would have been to drop Vydra. Good management was to do what Dyche thought was in the best interests of the team and that was to introduce Wood.

He clearly can’t do right with some people, amusingly people criticise how reluctant he is to make changes and then he gets criticised for doing just that.

[Rileybobs]

Ok, so it wasnt the type of game that suited Vydra... let’s see him start the next game then. Or presumably every game from now on will be a “Wood” type game? When Wood is not even close to being in the game at Anfield in April, how long will he get? I ask these questions as a Wood fan! Vydra brings something different, but we are only benefitting from “different” when it’s forced.

Look, I get a change was “needed” but the counter argument is when it’s been needed in the past because of the ineffective tactics and set up, why have we not changed at 57 minutes and tried something else?

I’m a happy clapper, really I am. Everything Burnley is wonderful right now, but let’s at least be honest about how and why our team and tactics are what they are.

Because when Vydra is on the bench we are making the team weaker by introducing him. When Wood is on the bench we are making the team stronger by introducing him. Pretty simple.

As above, it’s great that Vydra has shown what he can offer and hopefully he will get more game time as a result. But the fact remains that he is fourth choice and playing very well for a game and a half isn’t going to be enough to change Dyche’s view which is based on dozens of performances and lots of goals from Wood.

[BurnleyFC]

Yes, because Dyche knew that Wood was going to come on and not score didn’t he - having psychic powers and all.

Dyche rightly left Vydra in the starting 11 today and gave him 60 minutes in which he was largely ineffective, not helped by poor service. Our top scorer and best striker was on the bench, why wouldn’t you bring him on with a good 30 minutes to get a goal?

I know people are desperate for Vydra to be some kind of hero, but the fact remains that he’s still our fourth choice striker.

Shitty man management would have been to drop Vydra. Good management was to do what Dyche thought was in the best interests of the team and that was to introduce Wood.

He clearly can’t do right with some people, amusingly people criticise how reluctant he is to make changes and then he gets criticised for doing just that.

You’re missing the point - he’s done something that he never normally does, making an unenforced substitution early on, with a player just coming back from injury as well. About as un-“Dyche” like as you can get.

You, I and every other Burnley fan knows that Wood will be back in the starting eleven next game and will get a damn sight longer than 57 minutes on the pitch, whether his performance warrants it or not.

[Rileybobs]

You’re missing the point - he’s done something that he never normally does, making an unenforced substitution early on, with a player just coming back from injury as well. About as un-“Dyche” like as you can get.

You, I and every other Burnley fan knows that Wood will be back in the starting eleven next game.

The substitution was on round about the hour mark - hardly like taking him off after 15 mins. He usually would wait 10 minutes later, granted, but Wood is our biggest goal threat. Why leave him on the bench? There would have been a case for him to start today but Dyche did the right thing sticking with the team that beat Bournemouth.

[AlargeClaret]

Vydra is always a player if he starts and it doesn’t come off will be subbed .He was ineffectual today and it kept him fresh while giving Wood our leading scorer a run out . I’d be staggered if SD drops Vydra next week. I ,for one am delighted we’ve 3 fit confident strikers who are match fit and raring to go

[bobinho]

Because when Vydra is on the bench we are making the team weaker by introducing him. When Wood is on the bench we are making the team stronger by introducing him. Pretty simple.

Yep, that’s pretty simple. But it’s only a viable answer if we swap them without changing what we are trying to do. If we bring Vydra on and ignore his pace and his movement and play the same ball forward that we do when Wood is on the pitch, it’s not surprising we are weaker. That’s pretty simple too.

There is no reason why Vydra CANT be the number one. Or Jay. These players are different and their strengths are different. If we keep playing the same way with the same players in the same formation we get found out very quickly. We have mixed it up but only when forced to. What it has shown us is there is a viable option... if we want to use it. I understand why we revert to type, but we aren’t as one dimensional as maybe some people think.

As I stated, I really like Wood, he’s great up there, but there are options when he’s ineffective. When he is, I’d like to see a change.

[BurnleyFC]

Vydra is always a player if he starts and it doesn’t come off will be subbed .He was ineffectual today and it kept him fresh while giving Wood our leading scorer a run out . I’d be staggered if SD drops Vydra next week. I ,for one am delighted we’ve 3 fit confident strikers who are match fit and raring to go

Prepare to be staggered!

[Gordaleman]

Vydra is always a player if he starts and it doesn’t come off will be subbed .He was ineffectual today and it kept him fresh while giving Wood our leading scorer a run out . I’d be staggered if SD drops Vydra next week. I ,for one am delighted we’ve 3 fit confident strikers who are match fit and raring to go

"I’d be staggered if SD drops Vydra next week."

So would I mate.

[Rileybobs]

Yep, that’s pretty simple. But it’s only a viable answer if we swap them without changing what we are trying to do. If we bring Vydra on and ignore his pace and his movement and play the same ball forward that we do when Wood is on the pitch, it’s not surprising we are weaker. That’s pretty simple too.

There is no reason why Vydra CANT be the number one. Or Jay. These players are different and their strengths are different. If we keep playing the same way with the same players in the same formation we get found out very quickly. We have mixed it up but only when forced to. What it has shown us is there is a viable option... if we want to use it. I understand why we revert to type, but we aren’t as one dimensional as maybe some people think.

As I stated, I really like Wood, he’s great up there, but there are options when he’s ineffective. When he is, I’d like to see a change.

But our style is also dependent on the opposition. Newcastle don’t concede many goals, particularly at home. They’re stubborn opposition. Today was always going to be tight and looked increasingly likely that it would be decided by a corner kick or other set piece.

Taking nothing away from Vydra who really rose to the task when called upon, but Bournemouth was the exact opposition I would have chosen to put him up against. Their defence is as poor as it gets, particularly without Ake. It was always going to be that we would play a more expansive style of football against Bournemouth than today against Newcastle.

We tried to play football into feet at times today but it was extremely tight and crowded and the forwards had little joy. I’m not in the least surprised that Dyche decided to bring on the player who has form for getting a goal out of nothing and stealing three points on the road.

[jrgbfc]

"I’d be staggered if SD drops Vydra next week."

So would I mate.

I'd say Wood is nailed on to start next week.

[dermotdermot]

You’re missing the point - he’s done something that he never normally does, making an unenforced substitution early on, with a player just coming back from injury as well. About as un-“Dyche” like as you can get.

You, I and every other Burnley fan knows that Wood will be back in the starting eleven next game and will get a damn sight longer than 57 minutes on the pitch, whether his performance warrants it or not.

This is simply not true. Before Barnes was injured Rodriguez was brought on several times for either one of the starting two about an hour into the game. For once Rileybobs is right.

[dougcollins]

Don't know what it is about Newcastle, we always struggle to put two passes together. Must be the dazzling barcodes.

[Nonayforever]

Back to hoof ball next match.

[Rileybobs]

Back to hoof ball next match.

Like the hoof ball that we played against Arsenal and Manchester United?

[Burnleyareback2]

Dyche makes an earlier sub, people moan about. Dyche makes late subs people moan about it.

Perhaps Ballon D’or Vydra has a bad day?