ElectroClaret wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:42 pmLucky lad. I can remember when they just got half an orange.
That's the quote that allegedly cost Rodney Marsh his England place, Sir Alf didn't appreciate that kind of humour.
ElectroClaret wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:42 pmLucky lad. I can remember when they just got half an orange.
Really? Didn't take long for vydra to make way again,and get more splintersClaret-On-A-T-Rex wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:38 pmAnd for who?
Cork? Westwood? Hendrick? McNeil?
Who deserves dropping from our midfield?
It's the same situation with Gibson, it isn't that he isn't any good, he hasn't justified replacing anyone.
I think the "wait your turn and make it yours" tactic is very fair and consistent.
Whilst Mee is playing very well and very consistently at the moment, there have been times when he has deserved dropping. That didn’t happen for one reason or another. Although to be fair, BG’s cameo role in Europe didn’t turn out too well, but if we wrote off every player who had a bad start we would’ve missed out on Ade Akinbiyi showing everyone what a good striker he really was in the right set up.Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:38 pmAnd for who?
Cork? Westwood? Hendrick? McNeil?
Who deserves dropping from our midfield?
It's the same situation with Gibson, it isn't that he isn't any good, he hasn't justified replacing anyone.
I think the "wait your turn and make it yours" tactic is very fair and consistent.
Yes that’s true frank, but he would have to wait for one of the two starters to play CONSISTENTLY poorly before being given a chance don’t you think, as opposed to a quiet 55 mins then on you go our Ashley, you are in for the remainder of the season.FactualFrank wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:13 pmAt the moment, of course, but he and Wood showed earlier in the season how good they can work together.
Exactly thisbobinho wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:55 pmYes that’s true frank, but he would have to wait for one of the two starters to play CONSISTENTLY poorly before being given a chance don’t you think, as opposed to a quiet 55 mins then on you go our Ashley, you are in for the remainder of the season.
I think the main concern is that we would be looking to reinstate both Wood and Barnes as the the top two as soon as possible, REGARDLESS of how the others have been playing. Wood and Barnes would have to be poor for half a season before it was looked at. The others poor for half a game...
That’s because Dyche sees these players day in and day out and knows which players are better than others. It is generally a good idea to play your best players.bobinho wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:55 pmYes that’s true frank, but he would have to wait for one of the two starters to play CONSISTENTLY poorly before being given a chance don’t you think, as opposed to a quiet 55 mins then on you go our Ashley, you are in for the remainder of the season.
I think the main concern is that we would be looking to reinstate both Wood and Barnes as the the top two as soon as possible, REGARDLESS of how the others have been playing. Wood and Barnes would have to be poor for half a season before it was looked at. The others poor for half a game...
That's an easy one: Brownhill should replace Hendrick if he's not prepared to sign a new contract.Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:38 pmAnd for who?
Cork? Westwood? Hendrick? McNeil?
Who deserves dropping from our midfield?
It's the same situation with Gibson, it isn't that he isn't any good, he hasn't justified replacing anyone.
I think the "wait your turn and make it yours" tactic is very fair and consistent.
I agree. It generally is. Thing is, Jay and Matej are in my opinion better players than Wood and Barnes. Maybe not as effective when we play direct, but as far as football is concerned, I’d argue they are technically superior.
You’re going to have to back up the claim that Vydra is a better player than Wood. That’s one hell of a claim. Wood’s goalscoring record for us is fantastic whereas Vydra has played well for about 2 hours since signing.bobinho wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:08 pmI agree. It generally is. Thing is, Jay and Matej are in my opinion better players than Wood and Barnes. Maybe not as effective when we play direct, but as far as football is concerned, I’d argue they are technically superior.
Won’t be as effective as a pairing yet, because they won’t get the game time.
Maybe the best pairing would be Wood and Vydra? Who knows, maybe it is actually Wood and Barnes, and if it is, it means one type of football and we’d be unlikely to catch anyone by surprise. I think we are better than that. We can mix this up a little, but it needs SD to be a little braver in his choices.
My bet is that he will revert to type until his hand is forced into doing otherwise.
Better players don’t ALWAYS make a better team. England won a World Cup with that attitude, and if anyone can’t remember that far back, Burnley walloped Man Utd weeks ago fielding arguably inferior players than those used by Utd.
Spot on, has us sussed, defensive midfielder doubles up with whichever CB is nearest to the aerial ball to totally isolate our Striker that normally would go to challenge for the ball; I believe a different approach will be needed to guarantee success.ksrclaret wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:33 amMourinho tends to have our number at the Turf, and usually sits a big DCM on our target man to completely negate our threat. If Wood does play, I'd expect Eric Dier to never be more than 5 yards away from him.
I think Wood will be brought back in, but I do think Rodriguez and Vydra might just be the way to go. We'll see.
Absolutely, but not if dyche sits vydra back on the bench until he leaves the club, vydra has done nothing wrong in my opinion, the whole game from midfield forward on Saturday was poor and I see no reason why he should be singled out, I hope not against spuds, we'll see. Utc'sClaretAndBlue94 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:48 amAbove all - how nice is it that we even have this conundrum.
I'm not certain about that bud. It was as I feared with Wood sat on the bench on Saturday - Vydra had just under an hour to get a goal and it played out just as I thought it might. It seemed as though Wood was always going to get on much earlier than Dyche usually makes substitutions, as someone has pointed out, he couldn't wait to get Wood on. I hope I'm wrong but I don't think Vydra has a snowball in hells chance of starting on Saturday. JR will still be in the side and he hasn't done any better than Vydra. I wouldn't mind a Wood/Vydra start but I just don't see it. If Vydra starts or gets at least 30 minutes as a sub I will feel more confident but Saturday was just so predicatble I still think his face 'doesn't fit'.Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:38 pmAnd for who?
Cork? Westwood? Hendrick? McNeil?
Who deserves dropping from our midfield?
It's the same situation with Gibson, it isn't that he isn't any good, he hasn't justified replacing anyone.
I think the "wait your turn and make it yours" tactic is very fair and consistent.
To be honest if Wood/JR/Vydra are fit Barnes shouldn't be in the running at all, the other 3 are far better fooballers. Barnes would be at his best coming on late (but not too late) when we need a goal because when he is fresh he does scare defences but he is not, for me, a 90 minute player because he is a bit too easy for defenders to suss out if they don't get bullied by him.ashtonlongsider wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:01 amI'd be surprised if it wasn't Wood. I personally think Wood and JayRod are our best pairing up front even if Barnes was fit. Vydra has proved over the last few weeks that he has the ability to score goals at this level. He will make a good impact sub but hopefully not so late in a game should things not be going according to plan.