Foxes interest in Charlie

[houseboy]

Pope in midfield?

What a knobhead - I must have been thinking about wine - 'Pope' the Cork.

[ChorltonCharlie]

Nothing to do with hyperbole or “end product”
Taylor gets the team to the other end of the pitch with lung bursting runs - especially in the second half when other teams are tiring.
How many times this season have we seen him run 50 or 60 yards down the line and beat 2 or 3 players and win a corner or free kick - these will often lead to chances / goals. Taylor does not get an assist for these but clearly he has played a massive role in the goal. It’s the same with his combination play / overlapping with Dwight where he might not be putting in the final ball but he has been integral to the play.
His defending is good again because of his fitness and pace.
He’s not the finished article either but this season he’s up there with Chilwell as the best English left back and Chilwell’s form has taken a dip since Christmas.

When people are saying he's currently the best left back in the country behind Robertson, of course it is hyperbole. Of course it's great that he has other qualities, but that doesn't get away from the fact that he's not a good crosser of the ball. 1 assist in 65 Premier League games is pretty poor for a player who gets himself into good positions. To think that managers of teams aiming for the top 4 won't think that lack of 'end product' isn't a big issue would seem naive.

[summitclaret]

Nothing to do with hyperbole or “end product”
Taylor gets the team to the other end of the pitch with lung bursting runs - especially in the second half when other teams are tiring.
How many times this season have we seen him run 50 or 60 yards down the line and beat 2 or 3 players and win a corner or free kick - these will often lead to chances / goals. Taylor does not get an assist for these but clearly he has played a massive role in the goal. It’s the same with his combination play / overlapping with Dwight where he might not be putting in the final ball but he has been integral to the play.
His defending is good again because of his fitness and pace.
He’s not the finished article either but this season he’s up there with Chilwell as the best English left back and Chilwell’s form has taken a dip since Christmas.

Spot on that

[TVC15]

When people are saying he's currently the best left back in the country behind Robertson, of course it is hyperbole. Of course it's great that he has other qualities, but that doesn't get away from the fact that he's not a good crosser of the ball. 1 assist in 65 Premier League games is pretty poor for a player who gets himself into good positions. To think that managers of teams aiming for the top 4 won't think that lack of 'end product' isn't a big issue would seem naive.

I wasn’t saying he was the second best left back in the country - not sure many people are tbh. Though there isn’t a great deal of quality in that position even in the traditional top 6 clubs other than Liverpool they have all chopped and change their left backs in the last year or so.
There is a good argument for him being up there in terms of English left backs though.
As for his crossing I’m not sure statistics tell the full story - they rarely do for burnley. Firstly his crossing is not that bad - he digs out a lot of decent crosses when he is on the run and stretching so it’s not the best position to judge him from. When he’s doing those lung bursting runs it’s also often a case that there is no point crossing it as nobody is in the box - he is deliberately getting us up the field with a view to winning a corner or getting a free kick - which as said often leads to a goal and in many people’s books that’s as much as an assist as the person putting the dead ball in.
Oh and Leicester are top 4 - so not that naive.

[northernpowerhouse]

When people are saying he's currently the best left back in the country behind Robertson, of course it is hyperbole. Of course it's great that he has other qualities, but that doesn't get away from the fact that he's not a good crosser of the ball. 1 assist in 65 Premier League games is pretty poor for a player who gets himself into good positions. To think that managers of teams aiming for the top 4 won't think that lack of 'end product' isn't a big issue would seem naive.

Assist stats can be misleading and don't prove whether someone's a good crosser or not. Full-backs in top attacking sides get a lot more assists because they're involved in rapid counter attacks and often have men free in the box to pick out. That's not how we play. Most of Taylor's crosses are into a packed penalty area, often from deep. You're unlikely to get many assists from those no matter how good a crosser you are.

These stats might be misleading but even so Charlie Taylor's cross accuracy this season is 24% compared to 19% for Ben Chilwell, 14% for Ricardo Pereira, 22% for Trent Alexander-Arnold, 19% for Andy Roberston, 27% for Lucas Digne, 12% for Aaron Wan-Bissaka and 23% for Cesar Azplicueta. Not sure how they measure that but he seems to be doing pretty well.

[Taffy on the wing]

If we could get 15 to 20m for him, with Pieters available now and Koki in the wings we would be foolish to stop him moving to a champions league club.

We could easily reinvest that money in Hendricks replacement.

One of the daftest things i've seen you post!
You haven't been watching if you think we could replace Taylor for 15-20 mil. Just look at our record this season with and without Taylor.
I think he's a top player.....comparing him with Pieters is a joke.

[claretonthecoast1882]

We paid less than a million for Pope and Heaton Combined. Everton paid £25m for Pickford.

What we paid hardly matters. Thats not how things work.

Surely Leicester will just sign Pieters if he is a lot cheaper and just as good ?

[Spijed]

I wasn’t saying he was the second best left back in the country - not sure many people are tbh. Though there isn’t a great deal of quality in that position even in the traditional top 6 clubs other than Liverpool they have all chopped and change their left backs in the last year or so.
There is a good argument for him being up there in terms of English left backs though.
As for his crossing I’m not sure statistics tell the full story - they rarely do for burnley. Firstly his crossing is not that bad - he digs out a lot of decent crosses when he is on the run and stretching so it’s not the best position to judge him from. When he’s doing those lung bursting runs it’s also often a case that there is no point crossing it as nobody is in the box - he is deliberately getting us up the field with a view to winning a corner or getting a free kick - which as said often leads to a goal and in many people’s books that’s as much as an assist as the person putting the dead ball in.
Oh and Leicester are top 4 - so not that naive.

The complete full-back rarely exists in football these days - one that is good at both defending and attacking. Teams such as Liverpool or Man City don't need to defend as much, so any player they sign doesn't necessarily have to be good at defending anyway.

[BFC88]

Anyone who thinks Pieters is anywhere near the class of Taylor is mental.

Taylor is an outstanding talent who just gets better and better.

Hes one of the first names on the teamsheet for me and selling him would be unacceptable (especially when we dont spend any money) unless we were offered 40m upwards.

[IanMcL]

Fox off

[Dyched]

The complete full-back rarely exists in football these days - one that is good at both defending and attacking. Teams such as Liverpool or Man City don't need to defend as much, so any player they sign doesn't necessarily have to be good at defending anyway.

They can and do defend well. But full backs at the top clubs go forward create chances and goals so frequently they get known for doing that and not defending.

A sign of a top class defender is one that doesn’t switch off and is alert for the little moments he must defend correctly.

[IanMcL]

They can and do defend well. But full backs at the top clubs go forward create chances and goals so frequently they get known for doing that and not defending.

A sign of a top class defender is one that doesn’t switch off and is alert for the little moments he must defend correctly.

Can't think of many... Robertson

[UpTheClaretsFCBK]

I think Charlie might have to stay this summer. We've got a lot of outgoings to contend with this summer, as it is.

[Hedontplayforyou]

Leicester identified our Charlie as number one replacement if Chilwell leaves in the summer.

[Zlatan]

Fox off

Danny...???

[GodIsADeeJay81]

https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... r-defender

Let's see if Leicester are really interested then if Chilwell does sign for Chelsea.

If it's £50 million plus for Chilwell then we can demand a decent fee for Taylor, especially as his contract is until 2024 and he's our first choice.

[bobinho]

If we could get 15 to 20m for him, with Pieters available now and Koki in the wings we would be foolish to stop him moving to a champions league club.

We could easily reinvest that money in Hendricks replacement.

Why would we be foolish to stop him going anywhere? He’s our player, and if they want him, they will pay the going rate (providing someone at Burnley has the cojones required to not capitulate when sums over £17.50 are mentioned) or they don’t get him. He’s contracted to us. We’d be foolish to let him go anywhere unless the figure matches what we are losing. £15-£20m doesn’t cover it I’m afraid.

Please don’t post again until you learn all about the emojis that let people know you are just on a wind up or having a laugh. Let us all join in.......

[bobinho]

Charlie will play for England. I hope that is while he’s a Burnley player....

He’s THAT good.

(No emojis means I’m DEADLY serious, and writing in capitals means I REALLY mean it)

[jurek]

We'd be foolish, if not down right daft, to sell Taylor
even if a big bid came in and he wanted to go
And by big bid I mean 25, if not 30m.

Somehow don't think it will happen unless Chilwell
goes to Chelsea. And if he does then I'd set Tylor's price at 30m minimum.

[Hedontplayforyou]

Nick Pope goals conceded. 39. You can manipulate stats like that to suit any agenda.

Fact is Pieters has assisted more, scored more and tackled more than Taylor all in less games.

Are you seriously implying that Pieters is better than Taylor?

Pieters has probably made more tackles due to being out of position far too much and having to make a recovery challenge, and/or his first touch has led to the next touch being a tackle also. Pieters is often caught out of position or with having the wrong body shape whilst defending certain situations. His effort and determination can not be questioned , but Taylor is by far the better player.

[BenWickes]

Are you seriously implying that Pieters is better than Taylor?

Pieters has probably made more tackles due to being out of position far too much and having to make a recovery challenge, and/or his first touch has led to the next touch being a tackle also. Pieters is often caught out of position or with having the wrong body shape whilst defending certain situations. His effort and determination can not be questioned , but Taylor is by far the better player.

I get the feeling you're not letting Cricktfields wisdom transcend over you.

[Colburn_Claret]

If we could get 15 to 20m for him, with Pieters available now and Koki in the wings we would be foolish to stop him moving to a champions league club.

We could easily reinvest that money in Hendricks replacement.

Rubbish
He's an important part of the team, and as much as I like Pieters he isn't Charlie
The only reason to sell him is if he shows a desire to go. No point in hanging on to an unhappy player, but the fee would be a lot more than 20 m.

[Hedontplayforyou]

I get the feeling you're not letting Cricktfields wisdom transcend over you.

Only came on to have a quick gander as I couldn’t sleep and that just enraged me a tad.

[boatshed bill]

If Pieters is so much better than Taylor why aren't Leicester after him? Obvious

[tiger76]

If Leicester want him then let them dig deep, he's contracted until 2024, so we are under no pressure to sell, as mentioned above the starting price should be at least £30m, he could well play for England if he continues improving, long gone are the days when we needed to let our crown jewels leave on the cheap, and if they're genuinely interested we can drive a hard bargain for Charlie's services.

[NewClaret]

Someone on Twitter said Tarky wasn’t training today so more worried about that atm

[boatshed bill]

Someone on Twitter said Tarky wasn’t training today so more worried about that atm

There's a load of pics on the club site of pre-season training. Tarky can't be seen in any of them. Of course, he could be in quarantine. Perhaps he's had a break somewhere where (since he went) the quarantine rules have been enforced

[tiger76]

Someone on Twitter said Tarky wasn’t training today so more worried about that atm

I've always thought Tarky was the most likely to go for big money this summer, mainly because he's only got 2 years left on his contract, whereas the rest of our highly coveted stars are tied to longer term deals, and if we don't sell him this summer then his value might drop in 12 months, even with the release clause.

If Tarks wants to go then I can understand why, and we shouldn't stand in his way, however we should hold out for top dollar, and seemingly we're sticking to our guns over the asking price, so let's see if Leicester cough off the dough or not.

[jdrobbo]

Taylor is just as good as Chilwell and has had a much better last season. If Leicester think he’s worth £20 million less than Chilwell, we might as well all just wrap-up!

[NewClaret]

I've always thought Tarky was the most likely to go for big money this summer, mainly because he's only got 2 years left on his contract, whereas the rest of our highly coveted stars are tied to longer term deals, and if we don't sell him this summer then his value might drop in 12 months, even with the release clause.

If Tarks wants to go then I can understand why, and we shouldn't stand in his way, however we should hold out for top dollar, and seemingly we're sticking to our guns over the asking price, so let's see if Leicester cough off the dough or not.

I suppose so. I’d kind of hoped he would sign an extension and stay though

Maybe better to think of it that we had extra season out of him this year if the rumoured interest last summer was true. Would’ve loved to keep this team together with one or two quality additions to see where they could go though. Can’t think of anyone that could replace him, he’s such a great player and leader!

If he’s going I hope we get on with it and don’t string out a whole “where’s Tarky?” saga all summer!!

[cricketfieldclarets]

The bites

Still going 6 months later

[Jakubclaret]

If Pieters is so much better than Taylor why aren't Leicester after him? Obvious

I get the obvious point, but you are looking at a 6 year age gap between them hence the attraction more towards CT.

[Vegas Claret]

they can have him for 65 million, otherwise they can **** off

[boatshed bill]

I get the obvious point, but you are looking at a 6 year age gap between them hence the attraction more towards CT.

I know, I was being flippant

[dougcollins]

Don't they know we don't deal with midlands clubs?

[Bigvince]

Leicester won’t pay big money for Taylor! Look what they thought Tarkowski was worth after they sold Maguire for £80 million

[Granny WeatherWax]

Taylor is just as good as Chilwell and has had a much better last season. If Leicester think he’s worth £20 million less than Chilwell, we might as well all just wrap-up!

Agreed that Taylor is as good Chilwell and that is the perfect example of why it’s so difficult for us to improve on what we’ve got in the current market.

[Tribesmen]

The thing is bigger clubs will always come around to looking at our players as they think they will get them on the cheap .
I do like Taylor i must say but have a feeling we will lose one of our stars before the season starts .

Again who will we bring in is the big question

[Guller Bull]

Is it a bit like catnip for foxes?

[tiger76]

I suppose so. I’d kind of hoped he would sign an extension and stay though

Maybe better to think of it that we had extra season out of him this year if the rumoured interest last summer was true. Would’ve loved to keep this team together with one or two quality additions to see where they could go though. Can’t think of anyone that could replace him, he’s such a great player and leader!

If he’s going I hope we get on with it and don’t string out a whole “where’s Tarky?” saga all summer!!

There's no evident sign of Tarks signing an extension, so that's leaves our board with a tough call to make if a decent bid comes in, the advantage we have is his release clause is pretty high, and that might deter suitors who are sniffing, I do agree we need this sorting one way or the other, and the last thing we want is Tarks going out the door at the 11th hour, if he's going then we need this resolved soon, to give us time to source a replacement, like you I have no idea who could fill Tarky's big boots, so in that sense I'd hope he chooses to stay with us, but I can see why Leicester would be an attractive option for him.

[Vino blanco]

Taylor, along with Pope, Tarks and Wood are players I really want to keep for the foreseeable future.

[tiger76]

Taylor, along with Pope, Tarks and Wood are players I really want to keep for the foreseeable future.

I'm sure we all do, but equally if big money comes calling, it's tough for clubs such as Burnley to knock back, but it would have to be big money to tempt us, thankfully they are all tied to relatively long contracts, so that means we can ask premium price for any of them should they be in demand, it's a sign of how far we've progressed that our players are attracting interest from the big boys, you'd rather that then nobody courting our stars.

[KRBFC]

One of the best left backs in the league is Taylor, improved a ton, I think £20-25Mish would be a fair price.

[Bfcboyo]

If we could get 15 to 20m for him, with Pieters available now and Koki in the wings we would be foolish to stop him moving to a champions league club.

We could easily reinvest that money in Hendricks replacement.

Hendrix is coming back possibly.

[tiger76]

Maybe Leicester will cool their interest in Charlie if they bag this guy-Leicester City are eyeing Ajax's 27-year-old Argentine left-back Nicolas Tagliafico as a replacement for Chelsea-bound England international Ben Chilwell, 23.

[Stayingup]

I remember the Leicester supposed valuation for Tarks just after selling Maguire for 80 million. It was almost derisory. They will probably under value Taylor as well. As mentioned on this thread Tsylor has been superb this season and links up well with McNeil. He seems to be able to beat a man easily. Worth a lot of money

[tiger76]

I remember the Leicester supposed valuation for Tarks just after selling Maguire for 80 million. It was almost derisory. They will probably under value Taylor as well. As mentioned on this thread Tsylor has been superb this season and links up well with McNeil. He seems to be able to beat a man easily. Worth a lot of money

If clubs such as Leicester think they can poach our stars on the cheap, then they're in for a rude awakening, we normally drive a hard bargain when we're selling, and that's one aspect the board have got right in recent years, they play hard ball when other clubs come calling.

[cricketfieldclarets]

There's no evident sign of Tarks signing an extension, so that's leaves our board with a tough call to make if a decent bid comes in, the advantage we have is his release clause is pretty high, and that might deter suitors who are sniffing, I do agree we need this sorting one way or the other, and the last thing we want is Tarks going out the door at the 11th hour, if he's going then we need this resolved soon, to give us time to source a replacement, like you I have no idea who could fill Tarky's big boots, so in that sense I'd hope he chooses to stay with us, but I can see why Leicester would be an attractive option for him.

For me get Tarks replacement in this summer. But keep Tarks at all costs. Then either sell next summer or extend before then.

[AlargeClaret]

Presume 2 from Tarks Taylor Pope McNeil will leave though I’d really like to keep Taylor and Tarky though

[tiger76]

No mention of Charlie in this Sky Sports speculation, although I suppose he could be one of the other options, but it looks like Leicester are scouting the replacement for Chilwell from Europe.

Leicester City have begun drawing up a shortlist of possible replacements for left back Ben Chilwell after his £50m move to Chelsea, with Ajax’s Nicolas Tagliafico and Atalanta’s Robin Gosens both of interest.

However, both Ajax and Atalanta are demanding a fee of around £40m - much more than Leicester are prepared to pay - and so they are also considering a host of other options.

In the case of Tagliafico, Leicester are likely to face competition from Barcelona with new manager Ronald Koeman an admirer, as well as an unnamed Bundesliga club.

A European replacement for Chilwell is Leicester's preferred option, with head of recruitment Lee Congerton very highly regarded for his international contacts and scouting methods.

It's also thought Leicester are prepared to wait until much later in the transfer window to do their deals, feeling there may be better value by doing so.

Brendan Rodgers is in no rush as he already has a vastly experienced left back in Christian Fuchs and a young, developing talent in Luke Thomas, who signed a new long-term contract at the club earlier this week.