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Re: Scousers

Post by martin_p » Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:44 am

I suspect many of the people condemning a whole city because of the actions of a few of their supporters are the same ones that get upset when we get ‘town full of racists’ chants.
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Re: Scousers

Post by houseboy » Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:48 am

Gordaleman wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:43 am
Too young eh? I'll almost gurantee I'm older than you. I've been supporting Burnleyfor 68 years and used to love watching Liverpool win the European Cup when it was a purely knockout trophy. I wonder if you even knew that was the case?
I was just waiting for your response to that post mate, it made me chuckle when he said 'you are too young'. I know you have been watching the Clarets since before I was born bud (and I'm no spring chicken).

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Re: Scousers

Post by houseboy » Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:51 am

Burnley1989 wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:15 am
Not a fan at all, dislike them more than any other club if I’m honest.
Why?

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Re: Scousers

Post by Steve1956 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:51 am

houseboy wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:43 am
Ah Steve, I came out of the closet years ago and...oops...sorry...wrong site. :lol:

On a slightly more serious note I get what you're saying about being attacked mate and that was bad, but Burnley have had their fair share of dickheads in the past and even now probably, as have most football clubs all over the world. I had no less than 3 rubbish encounters with Forest fans years ago but I don't dislike Forest or it's fans (or the city - had a fabulous p!ssed night out there a few months ago). Every club has it's idiots (I know you remember what United fans used to be like before they got all corporate) but that for me is not a reason to dislike them all. My personal experience with Scousers, even away from football, has been nothing but good, and that is, in the end, all you can go off I suppose.

Incidentally you must remember the scrapes we got into sometimes back in the 70's - a few bevvies in the Crown then over to the Turf where anything went. Looking back it was all a bit stupid but it was fun at the time.
Always the victims Ian,i respect your view of them, personally i cant stand the club,the City or its people.

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Re: Scousers

Post by houseboy » Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:52 am

Hopey1786 wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:35 am
Scousers are the vermin of England
Why?

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Re: Scousers

Post by Steve1956 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:56 am

houseboy wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:32 am
I was talking REALISTICALLY mate. Everyone on here would like Burnley to win the title but we all no it isn't going to happen. Considering SOMEONE has to win it and it is almost certainly going to be one of the big six (Leiciester excepted) who would you want to win it - it's a simple question, no need to try to logic it out bud. I personally don't want a London club to win it, or United. I don't mind City but they have had more than their fair share of 'luxury' so the only other realistic club is Liverpool. Bearing in mind they have been the standard bearers of English football for years and brilliantly so there is no-one other than us I would want as Champions (and it ain't gonna be us any time soon is it).

As for their fans I love 'em. Scousers are decent but much maligned people and the fans of BOTH clubs there I have found to be both knowledgeable and fair (mostly). I think it is odd that Liverpool get so much stick on here because it is a great place with (for me) excellent people. I think that their wit sometimes comes accross as arrogance and maybe that is what many people don't get, but if you listen they put themselves down a great deal, it's not a coincidence that the city has produced so many great comedians.
Great comedians? Tarbuck and Boardman....gimme Glaswegians any day...no one comes close

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Re: Scousers

Post by Steve1956 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:57 am

Steve1956 wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:56 am
Great comedians? Tarbuck and Boardman.?...gimme Glaswegians any day...no one comes close

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Re: Scousers

Post by houseboy » Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:58 am

Steve1956 wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:51 am
Always the victims Ian,i respect your view of them, personally i cant stand the club,the City or its people.
That's fair enough mate, you can only take as you find. Problem for some about scousers though (and not you bud) is that their opinion of them seems to be based on what they read in the papers. And we all know what The Sun thinks. ;) ;) ;)

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Re: Scousers

Post by Hopey1786 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:05 am

Its never their fault

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Re: Scousers

Post by Steve1956 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:07 am

Hopey1786 wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:05 am
Its never their fault
Like i said earlier " Always the victims "

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Re: Scousers

Post by DomBFC1882 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:10 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:19 pm
I don't get all the anti-Liverpool stuff and quite what Shankly and Paisley, two of the finest managers I've seen in English football, have to do with it I don't know.

They'll win the league, they deserve to win the league and I'd rather them win it than anyone else up there near the top.

As for Scousers, they have been absolutely fantastic at the Turf this season with our food collections, both Everton and Liverpool and Dave Kelly from Everton was a massive help to me when we were setting up Clarets for Foodbanks. I'll be forever grateful to him and Ian Byrne (Liverpool) for all the help they gave us.

And to that ridiculous comment that they are hated by everyone. You want to take a long look at yourself making nonsensical comments like that.
Bang on the money CT
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Re: Scousers

Post by TVC15 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:10 am

Nothing against them at all.
Daughter went to university there and she absolutely loved the place.
I worked in Manchester for 30 years and working with city and united fans for so long United fans especially were the most arrogant bitter fans I have ever come across.

That said from a purely footballing point of view I loved to watch the United team with Giggs, Scholes etc and after they themselves went for so long without winning the title I was pleased when they did. I feel the same about Liverpool now because they are a great side to watch and enjoy watching them. I also have great memories of their teams with Keegan, Daglish, Steve Heighway etc - how could you not enjoy them winning European cups when they were representing England ?

Of course peoples dislike of teams or places are tainted by individual memories...but for me from a footballing point of view it just comes and goes based on the teams / managers at the time. I could not stand Souness as a player or an individual so wanted them to do badly when he became manager - and they did !
Felt exactly the same about United under Mourinho - just like I do now about Spurs. How anybody can dislike Liverpool more than a team managed by that despicable pr-ick personally I cannot understand.

Plenty of teams I just don’t like because I never have - Blackburn, Bolton, Leeds, Arsenal etc.

Hardly makes an of us closet reds though does it ?!!!
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Re: Scousers

Post by Peebs89 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:12 am

It's no coincidence that Liverpool's form has dipped since Henderson has been out of the side.

I'm convinced Liverpool would have won the league in 2014 if he hadn't got a straight red v City late in the season — it was during his suspension that they lost to Chelsea and had their tummies tickled in the second half v Palace, effectively handing the title to City.

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Re: Scousers

Post by TVC15 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:14 am

Steve1956 wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:07 am
Like i said earlier " Always the victims "
Typical irrational statement - kind of stance The Sun took about Hillsborough.
Would you say that about United and how they commemorate the Munich disaster every year ? (which of course they are entitled to do).
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Re: Scousers

Post by Burypaddy » Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:21 am

Worked in manchester for over 30 years then moved to skelmersdale for 5 years and i know which supporters/people i would prefer. Their humour is second to none and very welcoming even knowing i was a burnley fan whereas in manchester you dont exist as they are up their own arses.
Give me scousers anytime.
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Re: Scousers

Post by Gordaleman » Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:26 am

elwaclaret wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:55 pm
You are obviously too young to remember how they were Shankley-Paisley—Fagan-Evens-Dalgleash twenty year +

They made Arsenal fans look humble

God forbid it’s more than a one off.
Total garbage. Their fans are fantastic and understand football better than anyone else. You obviously have an agenda against them but they have always been great when I've been to games there.

Not sure if it's still allowed with all seater stadia, but Everton and Liverpool fans used to mix on the terraces and there was never a hint of trouble. Where else would you see that?

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Re: Scousers

Post by elwaclaret » Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:42 am

Gordaleman wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:26 am
Total garbage. Their fans are fantastic and understand football better than anyone else. You obviously have an agenda against them but they have always been great when I've been to games there.

Not sure if it's still allowed with all seater stadia, but Everton and Liverpool fans used to mix on the terraces and there was never a hint of trouble. Where else would you see that?
You my friend are entitled to you view, as am I
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Re: Scousers

Post by tiger76 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:47 am

Peebs89 wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:12 am
It's no coincidence that Liverpool's form has dipped since Henderson has been out of the side.

I'm convinced Liverpool would have won the league in 2014 if he hadn't got a straight red v City late in the season — it was during his suspension that they lost to Chelsea and had their tummies tickled in the second half v Palace, effectively handing the title to City.
Spot on Henderson's their heartbeat,ditto Laporte at Man City,it just shows that despite the large squads these days,the absence of key players can even impact the biggest clubs.

Henderson missing a few PL games won't make much difference as they're so far ahead,but they'll be desperate to get him back for the CL.

I find some of the comments on this thread bizarre even by UTC standards,why would anybody hate any club,dislike maybe but hate :?,i reserve my hatred for murderers,paedophiles and terrorists,football isn't that important to get so worked about.

If Liverpool go on to win the league,which i'm sure they will,good luck to them,they were incredibly unlucky last season,97 points and only 1 league defeat all season,would in any normal season ensure you lift the title.

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Re: Scousers

Post by Gordaleman » Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:48 am

elwaclaret wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:42 am
You my friend are entitled to you view, as am I
Yes, I am and it seems to be a view held by most on here. ;)

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Re: Scousers

Post by Steve1956 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:48 am

TVC15 wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:14 am
Typical irrational statement - kind of stance The Sun took about Hillsborough.
Would you say that about United and how they commemorate the Munich disaster every year ? (which of course they are entitled to do).
Wouldnt know about that i dont and have never read the Sun.

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Re: Scousers

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:50 am

elwaclaret wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:42 am
You my friend are entitled to you view, as am I
Although yours has absolutely no logic, just bitterness.
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Re: Scousers

Post by ElectroClaret » Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:55 am

What about Everton fans, Hopey?
Are you including them in this general hate-in?

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Re: Scousers

Post by Hibsclaret » Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:57 am

I have to admit to chuckling a bit to their rendition of Merry Christmas Everton chant.

That said I’ve never liked the club since the 80s when they seemed to get all the decisions or on occasion appeared to be very lucky. Our Milk Cup semi first leg being a good example of how lucky they could be...and as for the day they last won the title, I was there in the away end with a QPR supporting mate of mine when they got a penalty for someone being fouled about a yard outside the box...

The year Arsenal beat them to the title was quite funny I recall....

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Re: Scousers

Post by elwaclaret » Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:04 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:50 am
Although yours has absolutely no logic, just bitterness.
In your opinion. Do you have any basis for my bitterness?

On the contrary. My life has rarely been smoother (except my dad’s health).

In fact I’m currently looking forward to several digs in archives, over the coming weeks research. The national football archive in particular.

Knowing me you’ll know how buzzing I am about access to that lot being confirmed.
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Re: Scousers

Post by Caballo » Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:21 am

ElectroClaret wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:55 am
What about Everton fans, Hopey?
Are you including them in this general hate-in?
I don't know about Hopey but my experience is that by and large Everton fans are a decent bunch, the other lot, not so much.
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Re: Scousers

Post by snapcrackleandpop » Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:24 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:08 am
Alisson 65m, Keita 60m, Fabinho 45m, Van Dijk 75m, Salah 40m, Ox 38m, Mane 45m, Wijnaldum 30m Firmino 43m Lallana 35m Lovren 28m

And many others

:roll: :roll: :roll:
Like I said self generated cash not billions in oil money a la City & Chelsea.
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Re: Scousers

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:25 pm

I like the team, but f**k me some of their fans are pearl clutchers. Think nothing of calling Burnley all sorts but call them "bin dippers" in jest and they call you a dirty tory and google how deprived burnley is and lecture you.

Bellends need to calm down ;)

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Re: Scousers

Post by TVC15 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:26 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:48 am
Wouldnt know about that i dont and have never read the Sun.
So you don’t know anything about what I am referring to ?
Do you not have a TV or read any other papers either ? It’s been reported on just a few times in the last 25 years plus.

Tell me why do you think they are “always the victim” ?
What makes them different to United fans ?

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Re: Scousers

Post by TVC15 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:35 pm

snapcrackleandpop wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:24 pm
Like I said self generated cash not billions in oil money a la City & Chelsea.
A number of the prices he quoted were not surprisingly exaggerated.
Mane and Salah for example were £30m each and now worth nearer to £150m each.

Also forgotten that they sold Coutinho for £135m, Ibe for £16m, Solanke for £20m, Ings for £20m etc.
Their net spend combined with the value of their current squad is about as impressive a transfer record as any team in the world in the last 5 years.

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Re: Scousers

Post by Dyched » Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:40 pm

TVC15 wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:35 pm
A number of the prices he quoted were not surprisingly exaggerated.
Mane and Salah for example were £30m each and now worth nearer to £150m each.

Also forgotten that they sold Coutinho for £135m, Ibe for £16m, Solanke for £20m, Ings for £20m etc.
Their net spend combined with the value of their current squad is about as impressive a transfer record as any team in the world in the last 5 years.
Before he bough Minamino the net spend was £78m. Incredible.

To sell Coutinho arguably their best player at that moment to but Allison and VVD is genius. What club would do that?

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Re: Scousers

Post by COBBLE » Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:46 pm

Goobs wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:17 am
Just for balance would you like to list some of the players they have sold in there and what their net spend comparative to the othe big 6 - 8 clubs is like then it gives us a better basis for judgement?

Perhaps the people who should feel most pain at that list should be Southampton fans.

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Re: Scousers

Post by JohnDearyMe » Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:09 pm

Hopey1786 wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:35 am
Scousers are the vermin of England
Are you as hateful towards any other groups of people or just ones from Liverpool?

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Re: Scousers

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:14 pm

Scousers and himself I would guess.
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Re: Scousers

Post by Spike » Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:16 pm

Do prefer the Mickey mousers to Man U but as was rightly pointed out thats with them only winning the Top four cup in recent times.

The garbage they spouted about the Gnomelss injury was most annoying

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Re: Scousers

Post by RingoMcCartney » Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:23 pm

Burypaddy wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:21 am
Worked in manchester for over 30 years then moved to skelmersdale for 5 years and i know which supporters/people i would prefer. Their humour is second to none and very welcoming even knowing i was a burnley fan whereas in manchester you dont exist as they are up their own arses.
Give me scousers anytime.
Saw your poster name couldn't help but think of this

https://youtu.be/E0KAcT_3T1Y

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Re: Scousers

Post by Steve1956 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:47 pm

TVC15 wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:26 pm
So you don’t know anything about what I am referring to ?
Do you not have a TV or read any other papers either ? It’s been reported on just a few times in the last 25 years plus.

Tell me why do you think they are “always the victim” ?
What makes them different to United fans ?
Heysel has been erased from the history books.
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Re: Scousers

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:49 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:47 pm
Heysel has been erased from the history books.
In fairness it was Chelsea fans to blame for Heysel, Liverpool fans said so

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Re: Scousers

Post by Dejavu » Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:54 pm

Not by Juventus fans it hasn't.

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Re: Scousers

Post by TVC15 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:56 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:47 pm
Heysel has been erased from the history books.
No it hasn’t.

You must have got one hell of a beating that day many years ago to feel this much hatred and tarnish half a million people with the same brush for 30 or 40 years.

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Re: Scousers

Post by Steve1956 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:37 pm

TVC15 wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:56 pm
No it hasn’t.

You must have got one hell of a beating that day many years ago to feel this much hatred and tarnish half a million people with the same brush for 30 or 40 years.
Grown men attacking my sister....yes my sister ...salt of the earth are Scousers. :roll:
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Re: Scousers

Post by Steve1956 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:44 pm

Dejavu wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:54 pm
Not by Juventus fans it hasn't.
No not by Juve fans just by those wonderful salt of the earth Scousers

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Re: Scousers

Post by TVC15 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:49 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:37 pm
Grown men attacking my sister....yes my sister ...salt of the earth are Scousers. :roll:
And you don’t think there are idiots like this in every town or city ?
I’ve seen Burnley fans do similar things many many times.
I’ve never seen fans as bad as Leeds.
United have more hooligans than any club.
Chelsea full of racist national front idiots.
Celtic and Rangers are animals - Celtic did a lot worse in Burnley than Liverpool have ever done and I saw what Rangers did first hand in Manchester for that Europa league final and in 45 years of following football I have never seen anything like it.
Etc etc

The moral of the story being every place has its scumbags. Hating a whole population on that basis is a lot of wasted hate....
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Re: Scousers

Post by Steve1956 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:50 pm

TVC15 wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:49 pm
And you don’t think there are idiots like this in every town or city ?
I’ve seen Burnley fans do similar things many many times.
I’ve never seen fans as bad as Leeds.
United have more hooligans than any club.
Chelsea full of racist national front idiots.
Celtic and Rangers are animals - Celtic did a lot worse in Burnley than Liverpool have ever done and I saw what Rangers did first hand in Manchester for that Europa league final and in 45 years of following football I have never seen anything like it.
Etc etc

The moral of the story being every place has its scumbags. Hating a whole population on that basis is a lot of wasted hate....
Ok.

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Re: Scousers

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:52 pm

Seen some clutching pearls at the "sign-on" and gerrard slipped songs last night, i mean how do they cope with such thin skin?

I've lost count of the number of times i've had to laugh at people with decidedly un-scouse accents sing how they are "loyal supporters, we come from liverpool". give it a rest bellends

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Re: Scousers

Post by tim_noone » Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:10 pm

Hope I'm allowed to dislike Liverpool fans. Watching the scenes live at heysel was horrific. And then we played em in a friendly not long after Hillsborough in a friendly at turf moor.we lost 1..5 we were in div 4 ? And we were Sh!t so the scouse "Lady" called us. Maybe she was correct but under the circumstances and reflecting on the latter disaster it left a "Bitter" Taste in the mouth.

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Re: Scousers

Post by Steve1956 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:12 pm

tim_noone wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:10 pm
Hope I'm allowed to dislike Liverpool fans. Watching the scenes live at heysel was horrific. And then we played em in a friendly not long after Hillsborough in a friendly at turf moor.we lost 1..5 we were in div 4 ? And we were Sh!t so the scouse "Lady" called us. Maybe she was correct but under the circumstances and reflecting on the latter disaster it left a "Bitter" Taste in the mouth.
Not allowed Tim...Quick delete your post before they see it. :lol:

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Re: Scousers

Post by CaptJohn » Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:21 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:11 am
Scousers are kind hearted and generous to all opposition fans as long as they are not Cockneys,Mancs or Wools(anyone from Lancashire) and Leeds(most of the football world hate Dirty Leeds)
Their offspring will even offer to mind your car(for a small consideration )This is so you can watch the game safe in the knowledge that all the wheels will still be on it when you return.
But wobetide you ,if like we will do so this season,win at Anfield,then things get really nasty. I am fortunate to have taught in Liverpool and can put on a passable Scouse accent,which has served me well in the good old days when fans mixed together on the terraces
This was useful when Ian Brennans rocket helped us to a very rare win at the Theatre of Thieves.
All said, being brought up close to Merseyside,I dont begrudge the Scallies the title.
Sooner them than anyone else except the Super Clarets of course UTC
Sorry Neil I can't agree. I dislike the Red half of Merseyside with a vengeance and as for their fans being friendly that is a load of bo**ocks. I'd laugh my head off if they managed to screw this one up.
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Re: Scousers

Post by Ptangyangkipperbang » Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:50 pm

Apollo440
The Beatles
Big in Japan
The Boo Radleys

The Coral
Deaf School
Echo and the Bunnymen
Billy Fury
Half Man Half Biscuit
The Merseybeats
OMD
Pink Military
The Real People
The Searchers
Teardrop Explodes
Wah!
The Wild Swans
Just a few reasons why I think scousers are ok

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Re: Scousers

Post by Caballo » Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:35 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:49 pm
In fairness it was Chelsea fans to blame for Heysel, Liverpool fans said so
Actually it was the shithouse Juventus fans, if they'd have stood their ground it wouldn't have happened. Straight out of the mouths of some of those cheeky chirpy chappies.

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Re: Scousers

Post by martin_p » Thu Mar 05, 2020 1:40 pm

Ptangyangkipperbang wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:50 pm
Apollo440
The Beatles
Big in Japan
The Boo Radleys

The Coral
Deaf School
Echo and the Bunnymen
Billy Fury
Half Man Half Biscuit
The Merseybeats
OMD
Pink Military
The Real People
The Searchers
Teardrop Explodes
Wah!
The Wild Swans
Just a few reasons why I think scousers are ok

Half Man Half Biscuit are from the Wirral I’ll have you know!
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