Flybe

[tarkys_ears]

Dead.

No surprise. Basket case, circling the drain for years.

I wonder who will fill their void.

[paulatky]

This is due to reduction in passengers because of the Corona virus.
The world wide economic effects of the virus will be very damaging to all of us

[tarkys_ears]

I think you'll find flybe was ****** about a decade before coronavirus.

[cricketfieldclarets]

Almost booked a flight with them to Exeter. Luckily seemed more hassle than worth so travelling by train from Manchester.

Been on about it for ages haven't they?

[tarkys_ears]

Never been on a flybe flight with more than about 10 people on it.

Their pricing was ********. Usually £10 for a fully booked flight to Glasgow or about £300 on an empty one.

Shame, I really liked the E195 jets, the most comfortable narrow bodied plane.

[thatdberight]

This is due to reduction in passengers because of the Corona virus.
The world wide economic effects of the virus will be very damaging to all of us

Devastation predicted by the people who know most about these things.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51720267

"...the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD)... forecast growth of just 2.4% in 2020"

It's just as well I love gruel.

[paulatky]

The financial impact will be equally as devastating as the health impact. Job losses ,cut back in hours,house price decline , world wide recession. Cheaper petrol one upside

[Tribesmen]

Naff so bang go's my flights to Manchester , had to book others flights last night but out of Dublin which is a pain as Knock is only down the road from me .

[AlargeClaret]

You wonder how this lot survived so long absolute desperado company

[Top Claret]

Was it not Jack Walker who originally founded flybe?

[joey13]

Was it not Jack Walker who originally founded flybe?

Correct ,and was called Jersey European Airways

[joey13]

This is due to reduction in passengers because of the Corona virus.
The world wide economic effects of the virus will be very damaging to all of us

Nothing to do with Corana , that’s being used as a convenient excuse

[ClaretAndJew]

Correct ,and was called Jersey European Airways

No it was founded in 1979 by John Hobin but sold it to Jack Walker in 1983.

[evensteadiereddie]

I'm surprised the Venkys didn't buy it under the impression that airlines simply cannot fail...

[Top Claret]

Flybe have been struggling for years. I remember years ago the share price crashing. Only people to make money from this lot have been Jack Walker, or was the Walker Trust who sold out years ago?

[joey13]

No it was founded in 1979 by John Hobin but sold it to Jack Walker in 1983.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flybe

[Stayingup]

This is due to reduction in passengers because of the Corona virus.
The world wide economic effects of the virus will be very damaging to all of us

Only partly due to the virus. Sadly Flybe has been teetering on the brink for a long time. They are the only airline with extensive internal connections. London Airlines - we know as BA - has hardly any. Scrappung APD -Browns folly - might have helped.

[cricketfieldclarets]

Fair play to the rail companies. Get a lot of stick. From myself included. But they’ve announced anyone with a Flybe ticket can use their services for free to get to their destination.

[ClaretAndJew]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flybe

Right, Flybe, but the company that came from Flybe was founded by Hobin.

[Local cricketer]

Only one man profiting from this and that's Simon Calder.

Everytime I turn my tv or radio on he is on. More airtime than Ben Shepherd

[Blackrod]

Used to fly to fly to Channel Islands on Jersey European regularly. It will affect a lot of local communities short term but someone else will step in. Airlines are very precarious businesses. Flown with some good ones that have gone to the wall.

[paulatky]

Nothing to do with Corana , that’s being used as a convenient excuse

Everything to do with the virus. Its the final straw.

Other airlines will go the same way and you will see mergers as they try to cut costs due to reduction in passengers.

[paulatky]

Only partly due to the virus. Sadly Flybe has been teetering on the brink for a long time. They are the only airline with extensive internal connections. London Airlines - we know as BA - has hardly any. Scrappung APD -Browns folly - might have helped.

The reduction in passengers as a result of the vrus fears have pushed them over the brink.

It will be a similar situation with many companies across different industries.

The economic effects will be huge and impact everyone in terms of job losses,reduction in hours, pension funds ,house price decline and world wide recession.

The only upside is cheaper petrol which is already happening

[Spijed]

Its the final straw.

Other airlines will go the same way and you will see mergers as they try to cut costs due to reduction in passengers.

Flybe was going to go bust anyway.

[Top Claret]

Walker Trust are a canny lot who have long since got rid of all their Sh!t investments. Just imagine being lumbered with a can of worms like BRFC

[joey13]

Everything to do with the virus. Its the final straw.

Other airlines will go the same way and you will see mergers as they try to cut costs due to reduction in passengers.

It really has nothing to do with the virus but if you want to believe everything you are told on the news then fair play

[boatshed bill]

Good. Too much air travel is doing its share of damage to the environment.

[AlargeClaret]

It really has nothing to do with the virus but if you want to believe everything you are told on the news then fair play

While they were without a doubt gonna go sooner or later , been on their arse for 2 yrs,any last ditch rescue ( unlikely anyway) was totally scuppered with the potential of the corona virus to hammer a market which works on wafer thin margins . Though a convenient excuse for the brass

[Firthy]

This will hit the island bad. A lot of our financial businesses depend on Flybe flights, we only have Easyjet as an alternative and all their flights are already fully booked. They were always call Flymaybe over here so was a failure waiting to happen. Won't affect me personally but could hit our economy badly if other operators don't replace them.

[Local cricketer]

Good. Too much air travel is doing its share of damage to the environment.

I will remember that when I'm on my 4th holiday of the year in a few weeks

[evensteadiereddie]

Only four ?

[edison]

I used their Belfast-Manchester route a lot, but at least Manchester is well-served from other airports/airlines here

[boatshed bill]

I will remember that when I'm on my 4th holiday of the year in a few weeks

Their is precious little hope for the planet

[longside72]

They were still selling flights yesterday !!! We fly to amsterdam in the morning and nearly booked flight to manchester with them , luckily saw a post on fbook from someone about them going bust.

[MACCA]

Booked to go amsterdam in may, does anyone have any advice on what to start doing.
Will I have flights run by a different firm?
Do I get my cash back?
Do i need to book new flights immediately then deal with the rest later

[cricketfieldclarets]

Used to fly to fly to Channel Islands on Jersey European regularly. It will affect a lot of local communities short term but someone else will step in. Airlines are very precarious businesses. Flown with some good ones that have gone to the wall.

The profit margins on the flights are frighteningly low. Or in Flybe case non existent.

One of my customers is a major airline. I’ve been behind the scenes at the airport to see how much work and expense is involved in one flight. It’s scary. No wonder it’s £8 a small Heineken on Ryanair.

[cricketfieldclarets]

Booked to go amsterdam in may, does anyone have any advice on what to start doing.
Will I have flights run by a different firm?
Do I get my cash back?
Do i need to book new flights immediately then deal with the rest later

The flight costs are the least of your worries going to Amsterdam. You need a mortgage for a pint in the grasshopper.

[Stayingup]

The reduction in passengers as a result of the vrus fears have pushed them over the brink.

It will be a similar situation with many companies across different industries.

The economic effects will be huge and impact everyone in terms of job losses,reduction in hours, pension funds ,house price decline and world wide recession.

The only upside is cheaper petrol which is already happening

No doubt it will affect airline passenger numbers. I remember SARS when I was in Asia. Many of the flights were barely 50% full. Great for travelling back from Asia having spare seats but not for a good reason.

[BigF]

Do any Premier League clubs use airlines for flights to games, (Manchester/ Newcastle to Southampton for example)? Wonder of it will affect them.

[MACCA]

The flight costs are the least of your worries going to Amsterdam. You need a mortgage for a pint in the grasshopper.

I'm very fortunate that them things dont really effect me, however not sure whether to book new flights, wait to see any statement release etc, or whether I'll get money back/new travel subsidised.

First time I've booked myself as I'm garbage with all this technology it always costs me more doing things like this myself. I'm drenched behind the ears

[cricketfieldclarets]

I'm very fortunate that them things dont really effect me, however not sure whether to book new flights, wait to see any statement release etc, or whether I'll get money back/new travel subsidised.

First time I've booked myself as I'm garbage with all this technology it always costs me more doing things like this myself. I'm drenched behind the ears

What do you drink Smirnoff ice?

[Paul Waine]

I'm very fortunate that them things dont really effect me, however not sure whether to book new flights, wait to see any statement release etc, or whether I'll get money back/new travel subsidised.

First time I've booked myself as I'm garbage with all this technology it always costs me more doing things like this myself. I'm drenched behind the ears

Hi Macca, if you paid with a credit card - unless they were very cheap flights - I believe the credit card will refund you. It might be the same, though I'm not certain if you used a debit card. Otherwise, if you are owed money by a business that's gone bust you join the list along with everyone else and when it's all sorted you may get nothing or next to nothing back. There can be more fortunate outcomes, but I wouldn't expect it with Flybe as there will be others with more senior claims.

If you need to travel then you will need to buy new tickets. You may also have heard that airlines are cancelling flights. Maybe Eurostar is your answer?

Good luck.

[MACCA]

Hi Macca, if you paid with a credit card - unless they were very cheap flights - I believe the credit card will refund you. It might be the same, though I'm not certain if you used a debit card. Otherwise, if you are owed money by a business that's gone bust you join the list along with everyone else and when it's all sorted you may get nothing or next to nothing back. There can be more fortunate outcomes, but I wouldn't expect it with Flybe as there will be others with more senior claims.

If you need to travel then you will need to buy new tickets. You may also have heard that airlines are cancelling flights. Maybe Eurostar is your answer?

Good luck.

Thanks for the response, I paid on credit card as heard that was the safest way.
So regards that, do i ring the bank first to tell them what's happened and see what they suggest?

I should possibly book new flights then so I dont miss out or have to pay massive premium when they fill up with people in the same boat. It was from Manc to Amsterdzm, so presume they'll be many in the same boat as it was bank holiday weekend.

[MACCA]

What do you drink Smirnoff ice?

Nope, strongbow, but if none on draft, I'll get lager,l but it has to be the good quality stuff.
None if this pissy carlsberg, carling or Fosters rubbish.

[Paul Waine]

Thanks for the response, I paid on credit card as heard that was the safest way.
So regards that, do i ring the bank first to tell them what's happened and see what they suggest?

I should possibly book new flights then so I dont miss out or have to pay massive premium when they fill up with people in the same boat. It was from Manc to Amsterdzm, so presume they'll be many in the same boat as it was bank holiday weekend.

Yes, I think that's a good idea to call your credit card issuer and tell them that you paid £x to Flybe for flight - and they've now gone bust, before you can fly. The bank may be able to reverse the charge on your credit card immediately. If not, I'd expect that they will advise you what you need to do next.

It will be interesting to see how much demand there is for new flights. I've got flight with BA this weekend (Austria). I've heard that BA and Easyjet have cancelled a lot of flights, from mid-March onwards, as their bookings are down and/or people are changing plans.

So, you may find that ticket prices don't get bumped up, or you may find that as flights have been cancelled the remaining demand is above supply.

Enjoy Amsterdam. I was there for a long w/end at the end of April last year. One of my favourite cities.

[cricketfieldclarets]

Hi Macca, if you paid with a credit card - unless they were very cheap flights - I believe the credit card will refund you. It might be the same, though I'm not certain if you used a debit card. Otherwise, if you are owed money by a business that's gone bust you join the list along with everyone else and when it's all sorted you may get nothing or next to nothing back. There can be more fortunate outcomes, but I wouldn't expect it with Flybe as there will be others with more senior claims.

If you need to travel then you will need to buy new tickets. You may also have heard that airlines are cancelling flights. Maybe Eurostar is your answer?

Good luck.

good suggestion euro star is great and on offer atm

[cricketfieldclarets]

Nope, strongbow, but if none on draft, I'll get lager,l but it has to be the good quality stuff.
None if this pissy carlsberg, carling or Fosters rubbish.

you wont get strongbow (the carling of cider) for less than 7 euro a bottle in Amsterdam.

[MACCA]

you wont get strongbow (the carling of cider) for less than 7 euro a bottle in Amsterdam.

How dare you label Strongbow in that way, there's far worse cider out there than Strongbow, the Carlsberg option, woodpecker, Thatchers and Blackthorn just to name a few.
But as for 7 euro a bottle, I'm not going to get smashed every night so shouldn't be an issue, I may just drink a couple with my evening meal.

[Paul Waine]

How dare you label Strongbow in that way, there's far worse cider out there than Strongbow, the Carlsberg option, woodpecker, Thatchers and Blackthorn just to name a few.
But as for 7 euro a bottle, I'm not going to get smashed every night so shouldn't be an issue, I may just drink a couple with my evening meal.

If you buy on draft, you need to understand that the Dutch like to serve beer/lager with a lot of froth.

Heineken is, of course, everywhere in Amsterdam, including my now favourite "zero" 0.0%.

[MACCA]

Cheers Paul, I've started the dispute this morning through my bank, so the ball has started rolling, they advised me to book new flights and leave them to do the work for me, and a good chance of getting some money back.

Im clueless with 90% of things with a power button