Our Tactics/Style of Play/Formation (technical question)

[Claret-On-A-T-Rex]

I'm reading a book about football tactics, I'm sure many of you know it, "Inverting The Pyramid".
I was wondering what tactics/formation and style of play we have under Dyche and if it has recognizable origins or influences?

[IanMcL]

I would not ask us!

[Devils_Advocate]

I think Dyche was influenced heavily by Royal Shrovetide football and a lot of his tactics and style of play can be seen in this early version of the game

[dsr]

Sean Dyche has always been keen on the idea of winning games by scoring goals and not letting them in. Tactics which are often overlooked in modern football analysis.

[Bosscat]

https://youtu.be/3hPG-aCE3RE

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[boatshed bill]

Basically SD uses similar tactics to those employed by the originators of the game and modified by the Mongol hordes.
Pundits now call it Dinosaur football

[Bosscat]

Basically SD uses similar tactics to those employed by the originators of the game and modified by the Mongol hordes.
Pundits now call it Dinosaur football

I havent seen our strike force on horseback throwing a dead goat to each other

[boatshed bill]

I havent seen our strike force on horseback throwing a dead goat to each other

Or an opponent's head?

[Ashingtonclaret46]

It doesn't matter how you play, what tactics you use etc., the object of the game is still the same --sore more goals than your opponent!
Brighton 14,297 passes to score 32 goals ----- 28 pts: Norwich 12,915 passes to sccore 25 goals ----21 pts:
Bournemouth 11,291 passes to score 28 goals -- 27 pts: Sheff Utd 10,718 passes to score 29 goals -----40 pts:
Palace 10,687 passes to score 25 goals ---------36 pts: Watford 10,564 passes to score 27 goals ---- 27 pts:
Clarets 9,066 passes to score 33 goals ---------38 pts: Newcastle 9.038 passes to score 24 goals -----32 pts:

Only Sheffield United above us in the table and both Norwich and Bournemouth in the bottom 3, in spite of all those passes.
It's a funny old game.

[Spiral]

Liverpool played Dejan Lovren in the same 4-3-3 they've been playing all season and lost 3-0 to Watford. Take that in.

[Claret-On-A-T-Rex]

Thanks so far, I'm still looking into it, I know we aren't famous for playing out from the back and a lot of people on here have criticized Dyche's tactics as hoofball but I also read that we press quite highly on the pitch too.
I'll keep researching.

[superdimitri]

Our pressing has changed a lot this season. From the onset that's been the biggest change. We also mix passes a lot more than we used to.

In our first premier league seasons we mastered the low block using the work rate of our wingers in defence. Our weakness back then was getting results vs teams around us since we created very little with such a defensive setup.

Now we press a lot faster than we used to and keep a higher line of engagement. There's a fine line in our final third where suddenly we drop the press and stand off creating that low block we have been famous for.

It's this transition that's been hard to pull off and is probably why we have shipped a lot more goals against good opposition in the first part of this season.

What famous system is this most similar too? Well you could argue it's a mix of total football in defence, gegenpress with a low defensive line and a more traditional 442 in attack. The main deviation from the classic 442 in attack seems to be the way we setup depending on our full backs and wide midfielders. Taylor overlaps more whilst McNeil creates space and when Pieters plays he usually sits deeper giving McNeil a free role.
On the right flank right now Hendrick tends to hold up the ball whilst Bardsley overlaps or sometimes even underlaps. With Lowton he sits deep and rarely gets to the byline but when Gudmundson plays too the emphasis is more on creating space on the inside so he can cut in to cross.

[Claret-On-A-T-Rex]

Excellent, thank you superdimitri

[houseboy]

I havent seen our strike force on horseback throwing a dead goat to each other

Be patient Boss - be patient.

[Claret-On-A-T-Rex]

Amazed to find a big part of the invention of tactics in football was from Burnley lad Jimmy Hogan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Hogan