Taylor left a gap open at the back, which was exposed when Jay lost the ball. Ben had to make a decision and was a centimetre away from an inch perfect tackle.

He's won us far more points than he's cost us this season that's for sure.

What about giving Vydra stick for missing his chances?

Stalbansclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:01 pm

Yes..that's exactly it. I cannot get my head around why, after watching that cracking game and terrific performance from us, the thing that you are moved to highlight for everyone is a mistake, which we all knew about anyway, evidencing that in your opinion Ben Mee isn't good enough to play for England.

All your marks on rate the player, the thread that will be run after today's 'cracking game and terrific performance', will be 10 then?

If you don't do much you never make mistakes he is a great defender

No Ney Never wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:18 pm

Are you thick, or purposely ignoring my reply above to ClaretTony?

Neither.

Dark Cloud wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:20 pm

A guy who loves the club, is an amazing servant to the club and to a large extent epitomises the club. He's brilliant in so many ways, but doesn't play for a top 6/7 club or for England for a reason. He can be absolutely fantastic, but sometimes makes the odd rick. That's why we have him and tbh, I'm glad we have him because he's still miles better than MOST other PL defenders.

Miles better? He’s simply not.

He’s played how many PL seasons for Burnley now? Players that are better than most don’t play that long for a team like Burnley. Compare him to Trippier, Keane or Ings. 1 PL season is all it took before someone came and took them away.

It’s just claret tinted specs nonsense. Brighton fans will say Dunks one of the best. Wolves, Coady, Newcastle laselles, etc etc

Claretmatt4 wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:22 pm

Taylor left a gap open at the back, which was exposed when Jay lost the ball. Ben had to make a decision and was a centimetre away from an inch perfect tackle.

He's won us far more points than he's cost us this season that's for sure.

What about giving Vydra stick for missing his chances?

Again it's that thing on here where it's impossible to stay on the subject because some folk think it's an attack on Burnley FC.

I have said many times that he isn't good enough for and will never play for England.

Was it a shocker from Ben? Yes

Does it mean we don't want to see him in a Burnley shirt again? No

Did he have a good game overall? Not bad, but he's played better.

Do we love Ben Mee? Of course. He's a Claret that will be remembered for a very very long time.

And I thought the Eric Dier song was the most embarrassing thing from today.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:41 pm

Unfortunate with the pen and otherwise excellent today - but some always have to find a scapegoat

It's the age we live in Tony, unfortunately

Dyched wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:29 pm

Miles better? He’s simply not.

He’s played how many PL seasons for Burnley now? Players that are better than most don’t play that long for a team like Burnley. Compare him to Trippier, Keane or Ings. 1 PL season is all it took before someone came and took them away.

It’s just claret tinted specs nonsense. Brighton fans will say Dunks one of the best. Wolves, Coady, Newcastle laselles, etc etc

I totally see what you're saying, BUT how many top PL defenders (or goalkeepers for that matter) don't make a costly error every now and again? Look at Stones just as an example?? Need I say more???

No Ney Never wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:44 pm

Will never be an England international. Yet again this season, he gifts the opposition.

What a load of bo11ocks

Dark Cloud wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:47 pm

I totally see what you're saying, BUT how many top PL defenders (or goalkeepers for that matter) don't make a costly error every now and again? Look at Stones just as an example?? Need I say more???

They all do. Goalkeepers:Defenders directly get the blame when goals are conceded. Me personally don’t see the big deal with it. Strikers miss chances time and time again but never get slated for making mistakes. It’s one of those things. If defenders defended at 100% all the time they’d never be any goals.

Burnleyareback2 wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:43 pm

And I thought the Eric Dier song was the most embarrassing thing from today.

Could you repeat it buddy i didnt quite catch how it went?

Steve1956 wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:55 pm

Could you repeat it buddy i didnt quite catch how it went?

I’m trying to forget it ever happened.

RingoMcCartney wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:26 pm

Neither.

Really! Even after I'd written 'Plenty of reasons why we only took a point from today's match'. You open your post suggesting that I blame Mee for loosing us points today. Ok, whatever!

Burnleyareback2 wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:56 pm

I’m trying to forget it ever happened.

it sounded embarrassing.

Steve1956 wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:53 pm

What a load of bo11ocks

Gone then, what is bo11ocks about that statement?

No Ney Never wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:59 pm

Gone then, what is bo11ocks about that statement?

Every letter.

Steve1956 wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 08, 2020 12:02 am

Every letter.

Engaging or bellend? Tonight, bellend.

No Ney Never wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:29 pm

Who’s looking for a scapegoat and for what? Plenty of reasons why we only took a point from today's match.
Simple fact is that he will never be an England international and he has gifted to the opposition not for the first time this season. It was a p1ss poor penalty to give away.

I suggest you go and watch another team then. Maybe when you see how bad others are, you might appreciate him more. Ben Mee was outstanding today and the only reason he hasn't ALREADY been picked for England is because he plays for unfashionable Burnley. Even Tarky is struggling to get in the England squad and you can guarantee that Pickford will start in goal for the next England game, even though Pope is head and shoulders better. If those three played for Man Utd, they'd play every game.

Claretmatt4 wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:22 pm

Taylor left a gap open at the back, which was exposed when Jay lost the ball. Ben had to make a decision and was a centimetre away from an inch perfect tackle.

He's won us far more points than he's cost us this season that's for sure.

What about giving Vydra stick for missing his chances?

Actually didn't mean to 'Like' your post because Vydra was excellent when he came on. The game changed when he did and we looked far more likely to score. OK, he missed a chance but Wood missed a sitter. Why not have a go at him?

No Ney Never wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:18 pm

Are you thick, or purposely ignoring my reply above to ClaretTony?

Our team plays really well tonight but you don't want to mention that, you would rather try to pull our captain apart. Yes it was a bad decision from Ben Mee for the penalty but he was rock solid tonight as he usually is.

Who would you play with Tarky if Ben Mee isn't good enough for our team?

Claretmatt4 wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:22 pm

Taylor left a gap open at the back, which was exposed when Jay lost the ball. Ben had to make a decision and was a centimetre away from an inch perfect tackle.

He's won us far more points than he's cost us this season that's for sure.

What about giving Vydra stick for missing his chances?

I think if you look at the tackles Ben has made that ended up as penalties, you would see that most were due to someone else's error beforehand.

Gordaleman wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 08, 2020 12:07 am

I suggest you go and watch another team then. Maybe when you see how bad others are, you might appreciate him more. Ben Mee was outstanding today and the only reason he hasn't ALREADY been picked for England is because he plays for unfashionable Burnley. Even Tarky is struggling to get in the England squad and you can guarantee that Pickford will start in goal for the next England game, even though Pope is head and shoulders better. If those three played for Man Utd, they'd play every game.

Why should I go and watch another team? That really is a stupid, pitiful comment to make. Once again, just for the stupid among us, it's got fa to do with my appreciation of him as one of our players.
Incidently, Tarks has been picked to join the squad the past few times they've got together, but he's had to pull out.
Pope is a squad regular.

No Ney Never wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 08, 2020 12:20 am

Why should I go and watch another team? That really is a stupid, pitiful comment to make. Once again, just for the stupid among us, it's got fa to do with my appreciation of him as one of our players.
Tarks has been picked to join the squad the past few times, but he'shad to pull out.
Pope is a squad regular.

Well if you don't want to change teams, try to appreciate the one you've got. Ben Mee is untouchable. Just about every pen he's ever given away, was because someone else f*cked up before him, as was the case today.

No, Tarks hasn't been in recent squads, probably because he was having some inconsistent games, especially when Sarfgate was watching. Yes Pope was there, but he should have been playing ahead of Pickford in the opinion of many.

Targetman wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 08, 2020 12:11 am

Our team plays really well tonight but you don't want to mention that, you would rather try to pull our captain apart. Yes it was a bad decision from Ben Mee for the penalty but he was rock solid tonight as he usually is.

Who would you play with Tarky if Ben Mee isn't good enough for our team?

Who’s pulling our captain apart? All I've said is that the penalty he gifted was poor, which you agree with, and that he'll never be a England international. That's it, that's all I've said. Why are so many supposedly intelligent blokes going on like women on the rag? (Apologies to any females on here, truth is I've never known women on the rag go on as bad as some on here ).

Gordaleman wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 08, 2020 12:28 am

Ben Mee is untouchable.

Years back, on coronation Street, Hilda Ogden won a prize of a stay in a posh hotel. And when she came back, she told Bet Lynch about a little bit of sugar that hadn't been washed off a cocktail glass. Which, as Bet said, was because she was the type of person who liked things just a little better if they weren't perfect and she could pick a hole.

No Ney (sic) Never is like Hilda Ogden. Just accept it, or ignore him if you can't. It's no big deal.

Gordaleman wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 08, 2020 12:07 am

I suggest you go and watch another team then. Maybe when you see how bad others are, you might appreciate him more. Ben Mee was outstanding today and the only reason he hasn't ALREADY been picked for England is because he plays for unfashionable Burnley. Even Tarky is struggling to get in the England squad and you can guarantee that Pickford will start in goal for the next England game, even though Pope is head and shoulders better. If those three played for Man Utd, they'd play every game.

If Ben Mee was that good do you honestly not think someone would have come in for him, like they did with Keane/Trippier?

He's ruined my weekend

Blackburn_Claret wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 08, 2020 1:13 am

He's ruined my weekend

Belmtard

No Ney Never wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:44 pm

Will never be an England international. Yet again this season, he gifts the opposition.

What would you have liked Ben Mee to have done? Stand back and let him have a clear shot on goal?

Zlatan wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 08, 2020 1:20 am

Belmtard

Yes he is

Maybe after he had missed the ball by a couple of minutes he might have kept his boot down but he instinctively took his back leg. Can’t complain about the decision to award the penalty. It happens.

If we are going to point fingers it was jay rod whos poor touch left us exposed..

Ben consistently gets to balls he has no write to get to. Yesterday he was covering for Taylor who was stranded upfield. It never ceases to amaze me how little a lot of our fans know. This should be a thread about how he so nearly made a brilliant challenge. He makes so many challenges he is bound to come a cropper more often than most. We are lucky to have him.

Gordaleman wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 08, 2020 12:28 am

Well if you don't want to change teams, try to appreciate the one you've got. Ben Mee is untouchable. Just about every pen he's ever given away, was because someone else f*cked up before him, as was the case today.

No, Tarks hasn't been in recent squads, probably because he was having some inconsistent games, especially when Sarfgate was watching. Yes Pope was there, but he should have been playing ahead of Pickford in the opinion of many.

Jesus wept!

Might I suggest that bearing in mind football teams win and lose possession that every single penalty ever conceded will have someone making an error prior to the player committing the foul to give away the penalty.

It was a ridiculous tackle by Mee. He has gotten away with a few in recent weeks and today his luck ran out.

The frustration is that it completely changed the game. I can’t remember Pope making a save of any note (because we defended well) yet we gifted them a goal.

Also, did Pope not start the last England game or have I imagined that?

"Also, did Pope not start the last England game or have I imagined that?"

Yes, a nothing match but I'll bet Pickford starts the next.

As for Ben Mee, he misjudged a tackle having been left in a sh*t position by others but according to you it was a ridiculous tackle. What was he supposed to do, let him stroll through and score without even trying to stop him? Richard Head.

“ This should be a thread about how he so nearly made a brilliant challenge”

Honestly?

It was a ridiculous challenge.

It was a shocking tackle and he will know it. In slow motion so the Spurs player had plenty of time to find a little contact.
He should either go for the block or run on the angle to slow the Spurs player down.

He played well for most of the game though and has bounced back from poor performances already this season.

Gordaleman wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:47 am

"Also, did Pope not start the last England game or have I imagined that?"

Yes, a nothing match but I'll bet Pickford starts the next.

As for Ben Mee, he misjudged a tackle having been left in a sh*t position by others but according to you it was a ridiculous tackle. What was he supposed to do, let him stroll through and score without even trying to stop him? Richard Head.

It was a qualifier so a ‘competitive’ game.

He has to play in them before he can play in a World Cup final......that’s how it works!

As for Richard Head, grow up you prick!

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:41 pm

Unfortunate with the pen and otherwise excellent today - but some always have to find a scapegoat

Yep remember when it used to be players like Jensen, Eagles, Edgar and McDonald who were the scapegoats. I guess some fans just cant help themselves

arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:54 am

It was a qualifier so a ‘competitive’ game.

He has to play in them before he can play in a World Cup final......that’s how it works!

As for Richard Head, grow up you prick!

You're the one that wants to grow up. Players make mistakes under pressure and Mee had been put under pressure by his own team mates. Why not blame them instead? Or why not blame Pope for diving the wrong way for the Penalty? Games are won and lost on slight errors and Mee's takle was a fraction from being a good one.

Mee has taught Keane and Tarky how to play CH and without him, we'd be a much weaker team. Try appreciating that instead of slagging Captain Ben off becuse he made you cry. Do you think that you're the only one who was disappointed at the result?

Serious question, are you an adult?

Dyched wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:29 pm

Miles better? He’s simply not.

He’s played how many PL seasons for Burnley now? Players that are better than most don’t play that long for a team like Burnley. Compare him to Trippier, Keane or Ings. 1 PL season is all it took before someone came and took them away.

It’s just claret tinted specs nonsense. Brighton fans will say Dunks one of the best. Wolves, Coady, Newcastle laselles, etc etc

You think Keane is better than Mee? I guess you haven't watched him since he joined Everton then?

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:01 am

Yep remember when it used to be players like Jensen, Eagles, Edgar and McDonald who were the scapegoats. I guess some fans just cant help themselves

Good effort but sadly a little too late, that one's already been done.

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:22 pm

Yet John Stones somehow manages to keep getting picked for England despite the whole world knowing he's an accident waiting to happen.

Different position obviously, but same for Pickford, Chilwell, Dier, etc

jrgbfc wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 08, 2020 1:02 am

If Ben Mee was that good do you honestly not think someone would have come in for him, like they did with Keane/Trippier?

Is it made public every enquiry about our players?

No Ney Never wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:16 am

Good effort but sadly a little too late, that one's already been done.

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:01 am

Yep remember when it used to be players like Jensen, Eagles, Edgar and McDonald who were the scapegoats. I guess some fans just cant help themselves

I remember when we had a run on the scapegoat being the left back, didn't matter who was there, they got the blame for everything apart from the fall of man...

That's because we'd not had a good left back for about a million years until Ward showed up.