Not sure how that wasn't a penalty. It looked clear as day to me and if that happens outside the area it's a free kick.

FactualFrank wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:43 pm

Not sure how that wasn't a penalty. It looked clear as day to me and if that happens outside the area it's a free kick.

All the media thinks so

Don't get me started again. Fuming

1 reason.

Fat John Moss

Ref bottled it,same thing happened outside the box a minute later,and he awarded a free kick and yellow carded Sanchez.

If only the PL had some form of review system in place,that would solve all these problems wouldn't it.

Why wasn’t it reviewed?

Is anyone really surprised when you have a ref like that. Absolutely appalling display.

DCWat wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:48 pm

Why wasn’t it reviewed?

That’s a good question

DCWat wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:48 pm

Why wasn’t it reviewed?

I thought Sky said it was

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:50 pm

Is anyone really surprised when you have a ref like that. Absolutely appalling display.

One of the worst I've ever seen.

To brandish nine yellows? There was two at most, unbelievable.

Michael Dawson on Sky agreed it was a penalty

Think everyone who saw it thought 'penalty', except the plank with the whistle.

Sean also said on Sky that Moss changed the way he refereed the game after Spurs backroom staff had a go at him at half time - that is a big thing to say to the media

Very unlike that of Sean.

If moss did give a penalty VAR would have reversed the decision. The referee whoever it was on VAR clearly didn’t think it was a penalty as VAR didn’t even look at it.

Clear pen

Nailed on pen. As for var was that the same var that give no push on gomes by wilson for bournemouth!!! Get rid!!!

I don't think VAR gave it because by the time they received a text message to come off the Xbox and watch the foul, the full time whistle had blown.

I think yet again VAR has proved it solves nothing. It is administered for media benefit, and therefore for media friendly clubs benefit by having another layer of protection from defeat. Funny how all the dodgy decisions still usually benefit the bigger club.

Chester Perry wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:00 pm

I thought Sky said it was

I’m not sure but if it was being reviewed, shouldn't the screen have shown as much, and there should then have been an announcement of no penalty.

Poor defending, poor refereeing and poor from VAR. A mess.

Anyone know the minutes of the incidents?

Just so that we can submit them to that knob Mourinho.

54-55 the Wood penalty incident.

I assume that Moss told VAR it was outside the area so could not be reviewed. He may have thought so from 35 yards away

Chester Perry wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:06 pm

Sean also said on Sky that Moss changed the way he refereed the game after Spurs backroom staff had a go at him at half time - that is a big thing to say to the media

Bloody hell, the sh!t will hit the fan with that if it is indeed true.

Blimey Sean, go for it son.

It was a pen but VAR will only overturn clear and obvious errors. Now we know it was but they don’t want to make their buddy look bad.

Cheated, full stop

Delia was bending Moss's ear all game then gave hin a gentle reminder about the way it should be reffed
Delia even patted Moss at the final whistle
Obviously congratulating for a job well done
This was the mosr appalling example of bias I have seen in a long while

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:25 pm

Delia was bending Moss's ear all game then gave hin a gentle reminder about the way it should be reffed
Delia even patted Moss at the final whistle
Obviously congratulating for a job well done
This was the mosr appalling example of bias I have seen in a long while

It is not that long since Athens

Funkydrummer wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:55 pm

Bloody hell, the sh!t will hit the fan with that if it is indeed true.

Blimey Sean, go for it son.

quoted verbatim in this BBC report (near the end)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51685406

Absolute disgrace. Never has it been clearer that English Football is every bit as bent as the Latin leagues. The death march of football as a true sport continues.

Because VAR were already in Jose’s bad books after the Norwich game. Could upset the twohat twice in a week.

Or they were still asleep!

Chester Perry wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:06 pm

Sean also said on Sky that Moss changed the way he refereed the game after Spurs backroom staff had a go at him at half time - that is a big thing to say to the media

I said exactly the same thing. There was such a marked difference between Moss in the first half and second half something must have happened to cause it.

There's no doubt that Moss changed his refereeing style. In the first half he did very well at letting things go and not blowing for everything. In the second half it was a free kick for everything (except pushing by Tottenham) and a booking in cases where it was an actual foul.

bfcmik wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:51 pm

I assume that Moss told VAR it was outside the area so could not be reviewed. He may have thought so from 35 yards away

I thought it was outside the box tbh...I was 75 yards away though ...we had enough chances to win without penalties though.

tim_noone wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:46 pm

I thought it was outside the box tbh...I was 75 yards away though ...we had enough chances to win without penalties though.

It wasn’t outside the box and whether Moss thought it was or it wasn’t it should have been checked.

No idea why it wasn't given by VAR.

It's a clear and obvious foul, in the box. Moss didn't think so, so it's a clear and obvious error.

I'd go as far as to say it was a more obvious error than the penalty VAR did award us against Bournemouth. Its exactly the sort of incident VAR was brought in to deal with.

Chester Perry wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:40 pm

quoted verbatim in this BBC report (near the end)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51685406

Good it's about time this bias got called out,that said many neutrals will argue that our goal should have been chalked off for handball,even though by the letter of the law is wasn't as the goal occurred during the next phase of play.

What's more concerning is the amazing transformation in the referee's performance after HT.

martin_p wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:52 pm

It wasn’t outside the box and whether Moss thought it was or it wasn’t it should have been checked.

I haven't seen it a second time.. I was shocked they got a penalty ..but again I was in Jimmy mac Lower.

tim_noone wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:03 pm

I haven't seen it a second time.. I was shocked they got a penalty ..but again I was in Jimmy mac Lower.

Neither have I, but I’m in the longside upper so probably had a better view.

Image shows he was poleaxed

claretspice wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:54 pm

No idea why it wasn't given by VAR.

It's a clear and obvious foul, in the box. Moss didn't think so, so it's a clear and obvious error.

I'd go as far as to say it was a more obvious error than the penalty VAR did award us against Bournemouth. Its exactly the sort of incident VAR was brought in to deal with.

Suspect it is because we were playing against one of the 'big teams'. They clearly got to him over the interval

Spurs player clearly plays the man and is nowhere near the ball so it’s a foul plain and simple.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:50 pm

That’s a good question

VAR didn’t even look at it

The given penalty was one of those myst make sure I touch your foor and fall over' cheating exercises.

The smashing into Wood was the clearest of real penalties.

Unfortunately, Premier League rules apply. Controlling clubs get advantage, for the good of the league.

No doubt the ref was reminded of this at H/T and fulfilled his duty.

Corrupt, inept or both.

FactualFrank wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:43 pm

Not sure how that wasn't a penalty. It looked clear as day to me and if that happens outside the area it's a free kick.

It was against Burnley, so it doesn't count.

The scouse spitter commentating on the game said when asked about the Ben Mee foul "was the foul inside the box" after they rerun it several times he said when contact was made it was on the line so its in the box making it a penalty.

When a ball hits the crossbar comes down on the line it's not a goal. When the ball runs along the touchline it's not a throw in.

So how is it counted "in the box" and a penalty when it's on the line.

ClaretMov wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:03 pm

The scouse spitter commentating on the game said when asked about the Ben Mee foul "was the foul inside the box" after they rerun it several times he said when contact was made it was on the line so its in the box making it a penalty.

When a ball hits the crossbar comes down on the line it's not a goal. When the ball runs along the touchline it's not a throw in.

So how is it counted "in the box" and a penalty when it's on the line.

"On the line" is inside. When the ball is over the goalline, it is on the field of play. When the ball (or foul, or alleged foul) is on the penalty area line, it is in the penalty area.

ClaretMov wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:03 pm

The scouse spitter commentating on the game said when asked about the Ben Mee foul "was the foul inside the box" after they rerun it several times he said when contact was made it was on the line so its in the box making it a penalty.

When a ball hits the crossbar comes down on the line it's not a goal. When the ball runs along the touchline it's not a throw in.

So how is it counted "in the box" and a penalty when it's on the line.

Why do they have to mess with the laws of the game every year.

For over a century, a player taking a throw in had to have both feet BEHIND the line. Now, as long as some part of their feet is touching the line, it doesn't matter how far into the field of play they are.

Corner kicks used to be taken from within the corner quadrant, now it can be outside so long as it overhangs the quadrant.

Offside used to be a ref or linesman's decision. Now it takes five minutes on VAR.

Goalkicks used to have to leave the penalty box, now they don't.

Why can't they stop messing with the game we used to love?