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Post match problems
As I left the ground tonight there seemed to be a problem at the traffic lights. A couple of fans shouting at a car which I assume didn’t let them cross the road, think it was a Rover 25.
They shouted at the car, then gave it a couple of bangs. It then tried to drive off and hit the truck in front.
Meanwhile a lot of cocky cockneys singing and looking for trouble after the game.
Hope it was a trouble free night but I doubt it.
They shouted at the car, then gave it a couple of bangs. It then tried to drive off and hit the truck in front.
Meanwhile a lot of cocky cockneys singing and looking for trouble after the game.
Hope it was a trouble free night but I doubt it.
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I saw it. Wouldn’t usually condone someone smashing his car window but the driver deserved everything he got. Reckless driving
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Didn’t see the window smashed just a couple of bangs on the car. Then it hit the van.
A lot of pesky blinder cockneys around, looked like it would kick off
A lot of pesky blinder cockneys around, looked like it would kick off
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There was a couple of minor scuffles near the train station as well.
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Allowing cars down Belvedere rd immediately after fans are let out has led to some dangerous incidents over the last few years. The idiot in this car starting tooting his horn and then accelerated recklessly through the angry crowd. Some of them chased him and battered the car. He then panicked tried to accelerate again and hit a stationery van. Only at that point did the police get involved. He could easily have killed several people.
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They use to close Belvedere Road from the Fire Station. Not sure why they stopped doing that.clansman wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:54 amAllowing cars down Belvedere rd immediately after fans are let out has led to some dangerous incidents over the last few years. The idiot in this car starting tooting his horn and then accelerated recklessly through the angry crowd. Some of them chased him and battered the car. He then panicked tried to accelerate again and hit a stationery van. Only at that point did the police get involved. He could easily have killed several people.
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I suppose it’s because people park at cricket club and want to get away. However he hadn’t come out of the car park there he had come down belvedere. Don’t think he was a fan just annoyed people were in his way!!
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In the scuffle, a police horse backed into a guy trying to get past. Looks like his leg was hurt badly
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Cricket club isn’t ideally situated but they just need to stop them turning left and make them turn right.
Could even do what BFC do and not let anybody leave the car park for a while after.
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Scuffles outside the Prinny Royal Dyche after the match, coppers shoving people apart.
Looked a bit handbags.
Looked a bit handbags.
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Saw that car as we were coming out. It was smashed to bits at that point. There was a woman in the passenger seat.Burnleyareback2 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:46 pmAs I left the ground tonight there seemed to be a problem at the traffic lights. A couple of fans shouting at a car which I assume didn’t let them cross the road, think it was a Rover 25.
They shouted at the car, then gave it a couple of bangs. It then tried to drive off and hit the truck in front.
Meanwhile a lot of cocky cockneys singing and looking for trouble after the game.
Hope it was a trouble free night but I doubt it.
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They don't let any cars out of the cricket club until we'll after the game has finished.
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A Rover 25, was he like 80 year old?
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Re: Post match problems
Leaving Turf Moor after a game has been a disaster for many years which could be avoided by simply stationing a policeman at the exit of the Cricket Field and another policeman at the crossroads. The club completely ignores the traffic problems after the game. Imagine if there were 75,000 at the game or even 30,000 - 40,000 as at the Turf in the past.
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There is a barrier and a steward at the exit to the cricket club until about 15/20 minutes after the game but that doesn't stop cars coming out of the side streets onto Belvedere Road or coming from the Fire Station end.MT03ALG wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:42 amLeaving Turf Moor after a game has been a disaster for many years which could be avoided by simply stationing a policeman at the exit of the Cricket Field and another policeman at the crossroads. The club completely ignores the traffic problems after the game. Imagine if there were 75,000 at the game or even 30,000 - 40,000 as at the Turf in the past.
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The club don’t have to imagine there is 75,000 though do they. They just have to deal with the 20,000 they know it’s going to be.MT03ALG wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:42 amLeaving Turf Moor after a game has been a disaster for many years which could be avoided by simply stationing a policeman at the exit of the Cricket Field and another policeman at the crossroads. The club completely ignores the traffic problems after the game. Imagine if there were 75,000 at the game or even 30,000 - 40,000 as at the Turf in the past.
Neither do they have to think about the 40,000 we used to get - at a time remember when there was hardly any people drove.
Getting away from almost all football grounds is difficult - I’ve been to a lot lot worse than Burnley.
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Not sure just what you expect the club to do about traffic when it's Lancashire County Council and the Police who are responsible for road safety? The club has no jurisdiction on highways (other than Harry Potts Way).MT03ALG wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:42 amLeaving Turf Moor after a game has been a disaster for many years which could be avoided by simply stationing a policeman at the exit of the Cricket Field and another policeman at the crossroads. The club completely ignores the traffic problems after the game. Imagine if there were 75,000 at the game or even 30,000 - 40,000 as at the Turf in the past.
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Just finding Selhurst Park is a challenge.
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Why would the club be at fault for traffic management ffs... I would suggest the Police presence would take that responsibilityMT03ALG wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:42 amLeaving Turf Moor after a game has been a disaster for many years which could be avoided by simply stationing a policeman at the exit of the Cricket Field and another policeman at the crossroads. The club completely ignores the traffic problems after the game. Imagine if there were 75,000 at the game or even 30,000 - 40,000 as at the Turf in the past.
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The Copper in the Middle of the road directing traffic never had such problems.
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They are not supposed to let them out of the cricket ground at all until the traffic has cleared.
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I might be exaggerating here but I'm sure it took us about 2 hrs to get off the Wembley car park after the Play off final...lots and lots worse places than the Turf.
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The club do not ignore it and have worked hard with Burnley FC Supporters Groups to improve things which has been done by not having the traffic lights at the Wellington operational for a period of time.MT03ALG wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:42 amLeaving Turf Moor after a game has been a disaster for many years which could be avoided by simply stationing a policeman at the exit of the Cricket Field and another policeman at the crossroads. The club completely ignores the traffic problems after the game. Imagine if there were 75,000 at the game or even 30,000 - 40,000 as at the Turf in the past.
But it is not the club’s responsibility and neither now is it the police.
I’m not sure what happened yesterday but saw some of the aftermath but we will take this up again because further improvements need to be made and that includes a block on vehicles being allowed to leave the cricket club until it is safe to do so.
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They were letting people out from the cricket club straight after the game.The guy on the barrier nearly hit me with it,letting a car out .
Slightly off topic,why can the club not put some decent lighting up in the exit route from the ground,next to the cricket club?
Slightly off topic,why can the club not put some decent lighting up in the exit route from the ground,next to the cricket club?
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On the way to the ground last night I commented to my friend that Spurs had brought a "firm" with them and there could be trouble. I saw them crossing the road from the station and the after the match they were gobbing off on the way back up to Tesco's. There were one or two scuffles en-route near the culvert.
I heard the bang when the car hit the van and then it all seemed to go a bit crazy at the crossroads.
It was a weird atmosphere TBH as the niggle from the pitch seemed to rub off on the fans IMHO.
I heard the bang when the car hit the van and then it all seemed to go a bit crazy at the crossroads.
It was a weird atmosphere TBH as the niggle from the pitch seemed to rub off on the fans IMHO.
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No they weren't. It took me a good 5 minutes after the end of the game to walk up through the cars on the cricket field and there was an orange barrier across the exit with a steward manning it. So it wasn't straight after the match that cars were allowed to exit.Stevie2112 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 3:32 pmThey were letting people out from the cricket club straight after the game.The guy on the barrier nearly hit me with it,letting a car out .
Slightly off topic,why can the club not put some decent lighting up in the exit route from the ground,next to the cricket club?
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Poor horse!Guitargeorge wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:49 amIn the scuffle, a police horse backed into a guy trying to get past. Looks like his leg was hurt badly
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I went down in a friend's car, but my Dad went on one of the coaches. He said he could have got off the coach, gone to the pub, had several pints and been back before it had got out. So 2 hours probably isn't exaggerating.
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I don't think its cars leaving the Cricket Club CT... we walk out that way and they have a barrier in place to keep cars in untill the pedestrian traffic has dropped substantially.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 3:28 pmThe club do not ignore it and have worked hard with Burnley FC Supporters Groups to improve things which has been done by not having the traffic lights at the Wellington operational for a period of time.
But it is not the club’s responsibility and neither now is it the police.
I’m not sure what happened yesterday but saw some of the aftermath but we will take this up again because further improvements need to be made and that includes a block on vehicles being allowed to leave the cricket club until it is safe to do so.
There are usually a couple of cars coming down Belvedere Road though...
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I witness most home games the barrier being moved by the 'steward' positioned at the entrance/exit to the cricket club to allow the first couple of cars arriving there to leave, straight into crowds of people leaving the ground.
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If I wasn’t on the game I would make damn sure I knew when not to travel near Turf Moor. Every game you see bemused motorists trying to get through the lights on Yorkshire St
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Car park should be closed by a locked barrier when the final whistle goes for 30 minutes. I've seen so many near misses with cars trying to barge their way out as people are walking past the entrance of the cricket club. I suspect Burnley CC would be dead against this as presumably it would put people off parking on there if they had a longer delay after the game so hitting their match day profits. Should be taken out of their hands though in my opinion. We had to wait for ages to leave Villa on our coaches in a very similar lay out
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Yes they were,were you there when i was ?Obviously not. As i stated,they let cars out straight after the game ended!!Leisure wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 4:27 pmNo they weren't. It took me a good 5 minutes after the end of the game to walk up through the cars on the cricket field and there was an orange barrier across the exit with a steward manning it. So it wasn't straight after the match that cars were allowed to exit.
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Thanks - think we need to monitor it again and see what can be done. Besides the cricket club, I witnessed a car moving far too quickly along that stretch of Belvedere Road, travelling from the traffic lights and heading up towards the fire station. The situation has improved for the pedestrians with the traffic lights on red but there are continuing problems on Belvedere Road.Sean Dyche's Watch wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 6:01 pmI witness most home games the barrier being moved by the 'steward' positioned at the entrance/exit to the cricket club to allow the first couple of cars arriving there to leave, straight into crowds of people leaving the ground.
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I usually park on Belvedere Road and after the game im usually rushing to get home but for some reason pedestrians just cross and walk in front of my car without looking and don't even care. Can the club do something about the inconsiderate fans not giving a toss about on coming traffic.
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I blame Sean Dyche. Think he’s taken his eye off the ball here...
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Regardless of what pedestrians do you have to always be cautious. Pedestrians have the right to walk wherever they want, apart from a motorway.
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Pedestrians have the right to walk wherever they want
what a load of rubbish
Rule 1
Pavements (including any path along the side of a road) should be used if provided. Where possible, avoid being next to the kerb with your back to the traffic. If you have to step into the road, look both ways first. Always show due care and consideration for others.
Rule 2
If there is no pavement, keep to the right-hand side of the road so that you can see oncoming traffic. You should take extra care and
be prepared to walk in single file, especially on narrow roads or in poor light
keep close to the side of the road.
It may be safer to cross the road well before a sharp right-hand bend so that oncoming traffic has a better chance of seeing you. Cross back after the bend.
what a load of rubbish
Rule 1
Pavements (including any path along the side of a road) should be used if provided. Where possible, avoid being next to the kerb with your back to the traffic. If you have to step into the road, look both ways first. Always show due care and consideration for others.
Rule 2
If there is no pavement, keep to the right-hand side of the road so that you can see oncoming traffic. You should take extra care and
be prepared to walk in single file, especially on narrow roads or in poor light
keep close to the side of the road.
It may be safer to cross the road well before a sharp right-hand bend so that oncoming traffic has a better chance of seeing you. Cross back after the bend.
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As others have said they may have a steward/barrier at the CF exit but they have still let cars out of there.
Stop the traffic coming from the fire station and turning left out of Holcombe Drive or right out of Ridge/Holbert etc that would help ease the issue
Stop the traffic coming from the fire station and turning left out of Holcombe Drive or right out of Ridge/Holbert etc that would help ease the issue
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Doesn't matter anyway as when Mr Corona takes hold we'll be playing behind closed doors!!!
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People would be more inclined to hang about until the traffic died down, all you need is some collapsible tables & a few tea urns with polystyrene cups, you have to defrost/demist the car, maybe ring the missus up & check the final scores ect, heading into a bottleneck is the least preferred option.
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Here are some rules also pertinent
Rule 147
Be considerate. Be careful of and considerate towards all types of road users, especially those requiring extra care (see Rule 204).
do not allow yourself to become agitated or involved if someone is behaving badly on the road. This will only make the situation worse. Pull over, calm down and, when you feel relaxed, continue your journey.
slow down and hold back if a road user pulls out into your path at a junction. Allow them to get clear. Do not over-react by driving too close behind to intimidate them.
Rule 170
Take extra care at junctions. You should
watch out for pedestrians crossing a road into which you are turning. If they have started to cross they have priority, so give way
Rule 194
Allow pedestrians plenty of time to cross and do not harass them by revving your engine or edging forward.
Rule 147
Be considerate. Be careful of and considerate towards all types of road users, especially those requiring extra care (see Rule 204).
do not allow yourself to become agitated or involved if someone is behaving badly on the road. This will only make the situation worse. Pull over, calm down and, when you feel relaxed, continue your journey.
slow down and hold back if a road user pulls out into your path at a junction. Allow them to get clear. Do not over-react by driving too close behind to intimidate them.
Rule 170
Take extra care at junctions. You should
watch out for pedestrians crossing a road into which you are turning. If they have started to cross they have priority, so give way
Rule 194
Allow pedestrians plenty of time to cross and do not harass them by revving your engine or edging forward.
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How do you know just when the game ended if you were at the exit to the cricket club when it supposedly ended? When I got there 5 minutes after the final whistle there was a barrier across the exit.Stevie2112 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 6:35 pmYes they were,were you there when i was ?Obviously not. As i stated,they let cars out straight after the game ended!!
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Some of the Accy Clarets coaches did that!FactualFrank wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 4:35 pmI went down in a friend's car, but my Dad went on one of the coaches. He said he could have got off the coach, gone to the pub, had several pints and been back before it had got out. So 2 hours probably isn't exaggerating.
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It was closed and the barrier across when i walked through after the game. I nip through the gate at the back of the cricket club and walk up along their path as it's quicker than staying on the football clubs path up to Belvedere Road. It was shut then as i know the guy who mans it and we always have a quick exchange about the game as i pass him.Stevie2112 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 6:35 pmYes they were,were you there when i was ?Obviously not. As i stated,they let cars out straight after the game ended!!
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It will never catch on....But maybe the Concourse bars should operate for an hour after the game letting people unwind have a Drink /Brew etc. Easing the congestion to a degree and let the traffic flow.Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:22 pmPeople would be more inclined to hang about until the traffic died down, all you need is some collapsible tables & a few tea urns with polystyrene cups, you have to defrost/demist the car, maybe ring the missus up & check the final scores ect, heading into a bottleneck is the least preferred option.
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And when he was there they were letting cars out. Like he said were you there when he were?
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Hundred percent. Reading do it. Brighton do. Spurs do.
Extra money for club too.
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I've seen it work in other environments, holding people for even 20 would be noticeable, it was only a unproven idea within a football carpark environment, heading into a bottleneck you'd rather hang back, having any sense you would. If you stay for longer you get a free cuppa, maybe a small charge, some folk instantly log on twitter/FB ect which takes time up.
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