Dermot Gallagher on the non-penalty award

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Dermot Gallagher on the non-penalty award

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:16 pm

He says it was the correct decision because Davinson Sánchez was going for the ball - wasn't Ben Mee when Spurs got their penalty? I'm certainly not doubting the Mee pen decision but Gallagher's explanation of the one we should have got is downright ridiculous.

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Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:18 pm

Ive read that Keith Hackett felt it was a penalty

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Post by Claretmatt4 » Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:19 pm

I guess the difference is that the player Mee fouled had possession of the ball and Ben didn't whilst the aerial battle was a 50/50

Dont get me wrong, he's wrong. But that's likely their reason for it.

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Post by Murger » Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:21 pm

Dermot Gallagher is a massive bellend. He never disagrees with the refs decision.
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Post by MT03ALG » Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:22 pm

Agreed Tony. Going for the ball and not getting the ball are completely different scenarios. Missing the ball and attacking the player in the back would usually lead to a free-kick as demonstrated shortly after the 'penalty' incident when Moss awarded a foul against Wood but outside the penalty area !!

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Post by Erasmus » Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:23 pm

He was clearly floundering on this one, and his statement that it wasn't a foul because the player was going for the ball was indeed ridiculous. That's just not a rule, but I think he was just a bit desperate and felt he had to say something. With hindsight I'm sure he will realise he made a fool of himself.

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Post by claretblue » Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:41 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:18 pm
Ive read that Keith Hackett felt it was a penalty
so did Stevie Wonder! :roll:

:D

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Post by Hibsclaret » Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:55 pm

Dermot Gallagher is an absolute joke and a great example of how refs are clueless and making an absolute dog’s breakfast of VAR. If someone like him can’t make any sense 2 days after the game what chance does the onfield ref or the VAR have.....


Err Dermot.....most fouls are committed by someone going for the ball.....

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Post by Bordeauxclaret » Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:55 pm

Great news. Should make defending a lot easier going forward.
Mee and Tarkowski in particular will be thrilled with this.

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Post by Mondsley » Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:14 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:18 pm
Ive read that Keith Hackett felt it was a penalty
Can't argue with that. But he also said that from the incident Spurs broke away and scored!!! Not the best observational skills.

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Post by Bordeauxclaret » Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:17 pm

Mondsley wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:14 pm
Can't argue with that. But he also said that from the incident Spurs broke away and scored!!! Not the best observational skills.
That’s the Keith we remember.

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Post by dsr » Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:19 pm

Claretmatt4 wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:19 pm
I guess the difference is that the player Mee fouled had possession of the ball and Ben didn't whilst the aerial battle was a 50/50

Dont get me wrong, he's wrong. But that's likely their reason for it.
So if you dive in feet first for a fifty-fifty and get there late, would Gallagher say that's not a foul either?

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Post by FactualFrank » Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:30 pm

It's very difficult to take him seriously, as he no doubt has friendships with certain referees and so any bordering decisions he'll simply back the ref's initial decision. In theory, it's an interesting idea to have a retired referee on, but whenever I've seen him it shouts out as him having an ulterior motive for his decision.

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Post by JohnMac » Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:48 pm

Fred booked for diving - Not enough contact to warrant going down.

Lamela was barely tickled by Ben Mee, his foot was going over as soon as he knew the tackle was coming.

Dual standards and fwiw if Lamela was a penalty then Fred's was nailed on!

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Post by turfytopper » Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:01 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:16 pm
He says it was the correct decision because Davinson Sánchez was going for the ball - wasn't Ben Mee when Spurs got their penalty? I'm certainly not doubting the Mee pen decision but Gallagher's explanation of the one we should have got is downright ridiculous.
I think he's just at re-written the laws of association football....which used to state , 'playing the man before the ball is always a foul'.

How can he defend the indefensible?

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Post by elwaclaret » Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:10 pm

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Post by thelaughingclaret » Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:16 pm

Wood should’ve gone down. To get a penalty you have to hit the deck. I admire Dyche for wanting his players to be honest but that honesty cost us 2 points. It’s practically the rule now that a penalty won’t be given unless the player fouled goes down and holds there head or smacks the floor. That’s football now. We need to adapt to it I’m afraid.

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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:17 pm

turfytopper wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:01 pm
I think he's just at re-written the laws of association football....which used to state , 'playing the man before the ball is always a foul'.

How can he defend the indefensible?

These are Gallagher's words:

I don't think it's a penalty. He's going for the ball, it's not a penalty. When people aerially challenge, it's inevitable there's going to be physical contact.

Have to say the two in the studio with him disagreed strongly with his opinion.
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Post by Bosscat » Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:29 pm

thelaughingclaret wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:16 pm
Wood should’ve gone down. To get a penalty you have to hit the deck. I admire Dyche for wanting his players to be honest but that honesty cost us 2 points. It’s practically the rule now that a penalty won’t be given unless the player fouled goes down and holds there head or smacks the floor. That’s football now. We need to adapt to it I’m afraid.
I thought Woody did hit the deck after being clattered in the back....

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Post by Claret32yrs » Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:44 pm

Seen penalties given for far less. Was a penalty for me. Practically a rugby tackle. On a sidenote. Watched that Mee tackle on the Spurs player and it was like slow motion for me. Penalty, unfortunately yes but he didn't half go down easily.

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Post by BennyD » Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:31 pm

I watched the game with a Spuds fan and he said he thought it was a nailed on penalty, as did I.

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Post by IanMcL » Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:35 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:55 pm
Dermot Gallagher is an absolute joke and a great example of how refs are clueless and making an absolute dog’s breakfast of VAR. If someone like him can’t make any sense 2 days after the game what chance does the onfield ref or the VAR have.....


Err Dermot.....most fouls are committed by someone going for the ball.....
Actually, Ben Mee was going for the ball but Sanchez only went for the player!

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Post by IanMcL » Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:39 pm

Claret32yrs wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:44 pm
Seen penalties given for far less. Was a penalty for me. Practically a rugby tackle. On a sidenote. Watched that Mee tackle on the Spurs player and it was like slow motion for me. Penalty, unfortunately yes but he didn't half go down easily.
He waited until he could touch Mee's leg. Hardly touched it but fell down like a lump anyway, as that was his plan.

Prem refs are the weakest anywhere.l in the world and treat a touch as a legit reason for a pen, if it is one of 'the teams' but a clatter in the back, flattening an opponent is 'going for the ball's, if by said teams, in their own box.

Prem is fixed for the few, who bring on the TV revenue and sign the world stars. Something we all have to live with.

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Post by dsr » Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:09 pm

Depends on how you define a trip. If you define it as taking action that causes a player to fall over, then it wasn't a penalty. If you define it as touching someone who chooses to fall over, then it was.

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Post by dsr » Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:11 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:17 pm
These are Gallagher's words:

I don't think it's a penalty. He's going for the ball, it's not a penalty. When people aerially challenge, it's inevitable there's going to be physical contact.

Have to say the two in the studio with him disagreed strongly with his opinion.
Strange that. Since I have been watching football, I have often seen fouls given for aerial challenges where two players went for the ball but one of them was late. Surely I would have remembered if there had ever been a referee who never gave such a foul - it would have stood out while Gallagher was refereeing?

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