Drinkwater headbutts teammate

[Steve1956]

Not only is he a bellend,hes also not very good,don't know his history but should he be filed under.."one good season"

[JohnMac]

He could definitely do with some help as he is either mentally unstable, a drunk or a bit of both. I also suspect like a lot of highly paid footballers, he may expect the Club to take responsibility for his irresponsibility and pay for his treatment.

[ecc]

Bit of a pattern developing here.

[BOYSIE31]

Many of us did. I for one thought he was an excellent calculated gamble.

Many including me did not as he had not kicked a ball in anger for 12 months - and proved correct

[KateR]

I thought he would be a good signing for us, we all know what happened and then thought, well he's had his wake up call, just watch him go at Villa.

Obviously he doesn't give a Jota

In many ways I think it's very sad and hope he comes through this but he is his own worst enemy.

[evensteadiereddie]

He should wangle a move to a lower league club. Blackpool, for instance, a place where he could throw his money around, sup and fight as much as he wanted.

[Jakubclaret]

I thought he would be a good signing for us, we all know what happened and then thought, well he's had his wake up call, just watch him go at Villa.

Obviously he doesn't give a Jota

In many ways I think it's very sad and hope he comes through this but he is his own worst enemy.

Agree, he’s already achieved what most footballers won’t ever achieve in there careers in a lifetime & he’s likely to be a millionaire, maybe that’s enough, still doesn’t excuse him fighting in nightclubs or headbutting fellow professionals, he should retire or behave himself & knuckle down to getting his career back on track.

[Tall Paul]

Many including me did not as he had not kicked a ball in anger for 12 months - and proved correct

There's a first time for everything, I suppose.

[KateR]

Agree, he’s already achieved what most footballers won’t ever achieve in there careers in a lifetime & he’s likely to be a millionaire, maybe that’s enough, still doesn’t excuse him fighting in nightclubs or headbutting fellow professionals, he should retire or behave himself & knuckle down to getting his career back on track.

Totally agree no excuse, however there may be an underlining reason that none of us know about, mental health etc. I am convinced he will look back later when he is much older and think/know what an idiot he has been and am sure he will berate himself much more than any of us or Villa/Chelsea fans for example.

For us it's his 10 minutes of infamy, for him I suspect it will be a lifetime of regrets, regardless of how much money he has, although I agree it will soften the blow.

[Jakubclaret]

Totally agree no excuse, however there may be an underlining reason that none of us know about, mental health etc. I am convinced he will look back later when he is much older and think/know what an idiot he has been and am sure he will berate himself much more than any of us or Villa/Chelsea fans for example.

For us it's his 10 minutes of infamy, for him I suspect it will be a lifetime of regrets, regardless of how much money he has, although I agree it will soften the blow.

Put it this way, I think lots of us would happily trade lifestyles with him despite the demons in the locker.

[KateR]

Put it this way, I think lots of us would happily trade lifestyles with him despite the demons in the locker.

Fully understood, however as I say, be careful what you wish for, but in this case you're safe I'm sure lol

[Tinribs]

Do you have nothing else to do in your life other than spend hours digging up quotes just to try to have a go at other people

Just an idea - but why not try and make a constructive comment on the subject yourself

Hes one of the crew on here who spend hours trying to dig people out for having a viewpoint.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Something I’m good at , I hardly post on here anymore ,anyhow thanks for confirming you did big him up and make yourself look completely stupid yet again,well done

You should be able to prove quite simply me bigging him up then shouldn't you ?

Be honest with the likes of you on here it is hard for most to look stupid. Look forward to seeing the posts of me bigging him up. Cheers

[Claret-On-A-T-Rex]

He should wangle a move to a lower league club. Blackpool, for instance, a place where he could throw his money around, sup and fight as much as he wanted.

Blackpool is his paradise.

[Rileybobs]

With the incredible man-management skills and faith that Dean Smith has shown in Drinkwater I fully expect Drinkwater to save Villa's season and avoid relegation, probably at our expense.

[ClaretTony]

With the incredible man-management skills and faith that Dean Smith has shown in Drinkwater I fully expect Drinkwater to save Villa's season and avoid relegation, probably at our expense.

From what I’ve read in the last two days, Dean Smith could be out of Villa before Drinkwater.

[Rileybobs]

From what I’ve read in the last two days, Dean Smith could be out of Villa before Drinkwater.

Interesting. Seems a bit late in the day to sack him, but the momentum of a new manager could just see them over the line.

[dsr]

"Mentally ill" seems a bit excessive. "Idiot who never learned self-control" might be nearer.

[Spiral]

Put it this way, I think lots of us would happily trade lifestyles with him despite the demons in the locker.

We shouldn't speculate on his mental health, nor should we use euphemisms such as 'demons', but he's demonstrated on a number occasions this year a lack of impulse control that could become more and more damaging as he becomes idle and no longer bound by the routines of a professional athlete. It's this which he needs to address for his own sake. The next time he decides he's fit to drive after a few bevvies could result in him hitting someone and killing them. Life ruining. The next time he decided violence is an appropriate response to a situation could see him kicking someone in the head. Potentially life ruining. I was quite particular in my use of the word 'superficial' earlier in the thread, which is all wealth is; a person's wealth might bring a level of luxury not afforded to others, but it isn't a bulwark against their own destructive impulses. It means nothing before a judge.

[Spiral]

SNAP!

[Jakubclaret]

We shouldn't speculate on his mental health, nor should we use euphemisms such as 'demons', but he's demonstrated on a number occasions this year a lack of impulse control that could become more and more damaging as he becomes idle and no longer bound by the routines of a professional athlete. It's this which he needs to address for his own sake. The next time he decides he's fit to drive after a few bevvies could result in him hitting someone and killing them. Life ruining. The next time he decided violence is an appropriate response to a situation could see him kicking someone in the head. Potentially life ruining. I was quite particular in my use of the word 'superficial' earlier in the thread, which is all wealth is; a person's wealth might bring a level of luxury not afforded to others, but it isn't a bulwark against their own destructive impulses. It means nothing before a judge.

Would you happily trade financial wealth with him, Yes or no?

[ElectroClaret]

Interesting. Seems a bit late in the day to sack him, but the momentum of a new manager could just see them over the line.

Maybe a challenge for Colin?

[Spiral]

Would you happily trade financial wealth with him, Yes or no?

What has that got to do with anything?

[Jakubclaret]

What has that got to do with anything?

Just a question I’m curious, I don’t mind answering it, I’d happily trade, if you don’t feel comfortable answering it, no probs.

[Spiral]

Are you seriously asking if I'd like lots of money? I'm still not sure what your angle is.

To elaborate a bit, I'd rather be austere and of clear conscience than wealthy and stressed. You can't escape your own head. But that's a false choice. Plenty of footballers are able to have both without harming other people. His money won't absolve him of his behaviour. I'm genuinely confused what your point is.

[Claret32yrs]

From what I’ve read in the last two days, Dean Smith could be out of Villa before Drinkwater.

Didn't even know who he was until this season (Smith) but he comes across as one of those whose been to the Mourinho/Arteta school of moaning.

[Steve1956]

Maybe a challenge for Colin?

Dont think even Fat Sam would save Villa,they concede goals for fun not a recipe for success in this league

[Jakubclaret]

Are you seriously asking if I'd like lots of money? I'm still not sure what your angle is.

To elaborate a bit, I'd rather be austere and of clear conscience than wealthy and stressed. You can't escape your own head. But that's a false choice. Plenty of footballers are able to have both without harming other people. His money won't absolve him of his behaviour. I'm genuinely confused what your point is.

I just wanted a yes or a no that’s all, you don’t want to answer fair enough.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Many including me did not as he had not kicked a ball in anger for 12 months - and proved correct

In fairness boysie you are negative about all transfers, so for the 1 that doesn't work out and claim to be correct there are 6 or 7 that you are wrong about

[Billy Balfour]

If I'd headbutted someone at work I would have been charged with common assault.

[BOYSIE31]

There's a first time for everything, I suppose.

Ha im correct more than wrong pal

[BOYSIE31]

In fairness boysie you are negative about all transfers, so for the 1 that doesn't work out and claim to be correct there are 6 or 7 that you are wrong about

Now now not all - just the last 2 years

[Spijed]

Aside from one season where Kante made Drinkwater look a million miles better than he actually is has he ever played well during the rest of his career?

He certainly doesn't seem to anymore ability than either Westwood or Cork.

[Chester Perry]

Blackpool is his paradise.

and Burnley is Babylon

[ClaretTony]

Aside from one season where Kante made Drinkwater look a million miles better than he actually is has he ever played well during the rest of his career?

He certainly doesn't seem to anymore ability than either Westwood or Cork.

Not sure how you can do a comparison between two players playing regularly and one who doesn’t play.

[turfytopper]

Villa beat us 2-1 at the Turf on NYD, signed Drinkwater six days later, got butchered 6-1 at home to City where Drinkwater made his debut, and have since picked up four points. We've picked up fifteen with one extra game played in that time. I'd say he's cursed, but in just the last eleven months he's been done for drink driving, got into an injury-causing scrap in a nightclub, and now this. Framed like that, he's a disgrace of a professional footballer and of no use to anyone at this point. The £10m he's still to pocket from Chelsea (contracted until 2022) might console him to some superficial extent, but people who pi$$ away their careers like this are usually pi$$ing away their life. It will hurt him in years to come if he doesn't address his attitude now. Needs help, if indeed he's willing to listen to anyone.

I think he should be sacked for gross misconduct...and just maybe he will as his wages are likely to be greater than any incoming transfer fee.

[Tall Paul]

Ha im correct more than wrong pal

Remember when you said our squad isn't capable of a top ten finish? Were you correct then?

[boatshed bill]

Not sure how you can do a comparison between two players playing regularly and one who doesn’t play.

Or compare two professional footballers to an absolute bell end?

[Clarets4me]

I think he should be sacked for gross misconduct...and just maybe he will as his wages are likely to be greater than any incoming transfer fee.

To be honest, he's not performed to the standards expected on the pitch, the drink-driving offense reflects poorly on his employers, and he's now blown two chances in " loan " moves to try and get his form and career back on track. He couldn't really have any complaints if Chelsea cancelled his contract.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Now now not all - just the last 2 years

I've just looked at the last 2 years worth of transfers, both in and out.

I'm not really sure what your issue is with them tbh, aside from maybe Gibson & Drinkwater we've done pretty well

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/fc-burn ... erein/1132

[cricketfieldclarets]

Many including me did not as he had not kicked a ball in anger for 12 months - and proved correct

Well done.

[cricketfieldclarets]

Agree, he’s already achieved what most footballers won’t ever achieve in there careers in a lifetime & he’s likely to be a millionaire, maybe that’s enough, still doesn’t excuse him fighting in nightclubs or headbutting fellow professionals, he should retire or behave himself & knuckle down to getting his career back on track.

I listened to a podcast with Joey Barton and Gary Neville before where he said some players achieve in a season what most don’t in a career. And that’s it. It’s enough. They lose all motivation. And fergie would get shut.

That’s what looks to have happened here. He’s no drive.

[cricketfieldclarets]

Would you happily trade financial wealth with him, Yes or no?

I for one wouldn’t.

[BurnleyFC]

It’s a shame he isn’t as hard on a football pitch, mincing about putting half arsed performances in.

[TVC15]

Aside from one season where Kante made Drinkwater look a million miles better than he actually is has he ever played well during the rest of his career?

He certainly doesn't seem to anymore ability than either Westwood or Cork.

Spot on.
He’s 30 year old and in the Premier League he’s has one maybe 2 good seasons. In his best season he had Kante and Marhez alongside him and Vardy up front having the season of his life and converting most of the chances the midfielders were giving him.
Chelsea paying £30m for him was madness - and with the benefit of hindsight Burnley and Villa taking him on loan after a couple of years of not getting anywhere near the Chelsea side was a big risk to say the least.
His lack of fitness and sharpness was the biggest noticeable issue when playing for Villa - by the time he had made his mind up what he was going to do the opposition had taken the ball off him or just ran past him !

[BOYSIE31]

Remember when you said our squad isn't capable of a top ten finish? Were you correct then?

Yes

[BOYSIE31]

Well done.

Thank you

[bobinho]

Anyway, I’m nailing my colours to the mast...

Signing DD was with hindsight, a mistake. Without that hindsight, it was absolutely the right thing to do.

Could’ve been a superb signing. Wasn’t. We move on.

[BOYSIE31]

I've just looked at the last 2 years worth of transfers, both in and out.

I'm not really sure what your issue is with them tbh, aside from maybe Gibson & Drinkwater we've done pretty well

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/fc-burn ... erein/1132

Really does not look really good when i look at that list to be honest.

[Hipper]

I wonder what Villa did to decide if Drinkwater would be a good fit for them. Would they have consulted Dyche?