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Joey Barton

Post by John Johnson 1605 » Wed Mar 11, 2020 5:42 pm

Nominated for Manager of the Month with 16 points out of 18.

Really hope he wins it and goes onto take Fleetwood up.
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Re: Joey Barton

Post by rincon » Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:02 pm

It'll be good to see Blackburn's main 'rivals' next year being the Cod Army, and with Joey rubbing their noses in it if they beat them :lol:
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Re: Joey Barton

Post by Lowbankclaret » Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:22 pm

Well done him.

I asked SD at a Q and A what would his biggest challenge.

SD said it would be working with players without his ability and adjusting his expectations but then getting the best out of them.

Looks like he might have cracked that.
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Re: Joey Barton

Post by houseboy » Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:48 pm

Joey Barton will I believe become a great manager. He has the drive, the sheer will to win, the no nonsense type of character that makes Dyche great. And he is a born leader, he showed that with us, the best captain we never had. Good on the guy.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by Vino blanco » Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:16 pm

I was on the Turf when Barton made his first team debut, I can't remember against whom but he came he came on during a fairly average performance and transformed the game totally. His positional play, his forward passing (normally into space for players to run on to), his vision were all pure class. In my eyes, he is the best midfielder we've had since the glory days, including Defour, Marney etc.
He seems to be doing a great job at Fleetwood and I am pleased for him and hope he goes on to greater things, possibly becoming our manager one day, if Sean Dyche were to decide to leave us. Well done Joey keep up the good work.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by Iloveyoubrady » Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:16 pm

houseboy wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:48 pm
Joey Barton will I believe become a great manager. He has the drive, the sheer will to win, the no nonsense type of character that makes Dyche great. And he is a born leader, he showed that with us, the best captain we never had. Good on the guy.

Yes, welcome here in 20 years when dyche retires.

Seriously though, Barton does have what it takes to be a good manager, and will have learnt a lot from Dyche regarding man management.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by claretblue » Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:32 pm

houseboy wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:48 pm
the best captain we never had
think he was captain in everything but the armband during his time with us! ;)

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by SammyBoy » Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:34 pm

I follow the Fleetwood and Cheltenham results due to Joey and Duffo being their respective managers, and they both seem to have that Dyche-like knack of grinding out results by the odd goal, and not losing too often. Never seen either team play so can't comment on the style of football but thought it interesting.
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Re: Joey Barton

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:56 pm

SammyBoy wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:34 pm
I follow the Fleetwood and Cheltenham results due to Joey and Duffo being their respective managers, and they both seem to have that Dyche-like knack of grinding out results by the odd goal, and not losing too often. Never seen either team play so can't comment on the style of football but thought it interesting.
They both speak to Dyche regularly so continue to learn from him although two completely different characters.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by Tricky Trevor » Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:52 pm

Certainly don’t argue with him if he has a cigar in his hand. Unless you are wearing glasses.
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Re: Joey Barton

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:53 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:52 pm
Certainly don’t argue with him if he has a cigar in his hand. Unless you are wearing glasses.
I believe he's given up smoking. :D

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by ecc » Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:23 pm

"They both speak to Dyche regularly so continue to learn from him although two completely different characters."

That speaks volumes about all three of them. Respect being the key word.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by Claret32yrs » Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:13 pm

Vino blanco wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:16 pm
I was on the Turf when Barton made his first team debut, I can't remember against whom but he came he came on during a fairly average performance and transformed the game totally. His positional play, his forward passing (normally into space for players to run on to), his vision were all pure class. In my eyes, he is the best midfielder we've had since the glory days, including Defour, Marney etc.
He seems to be doing a great job at Fleetwood and I am pleased for him and hope he goes on to greater things, possibly becoming our manager one day, if Sean Dyche were to decide to leave us. Well done Joey keep up the good work.
Certainly was something we lacked and to a degree still do. A midfield general. His positional play, use of the ball and the ability to grab the game by the scruff of the neck.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by Devils_Advocate » Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:21 pm

Can see Barton ending up like a pound shop version of Roy Keane. Just substitute Championship success for League One success and Sky TV for Talkshite and you have two odious peas in a pod
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Re: Joey Barton

Post by ChorltonCharlie » Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:24 am

I want Joey to do well, but wouldn't go near him as a manager of Burnley, especially at the level we're at. You can't have your manager being so unpredictable.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by JohnDearyMe » Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:10 am

Claret32yrs wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:13 pm
Certainly was something we lacked and to a degree still do. A midfield general. His positional play, use of the ball and the ability to grab the game by the scruff of the neck.
Yes he was a genuine leader on the pitch for us.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by Stayingup » Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:21 am

SammyBoy wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:34 pm
I follow the Fleetwood and Cheltenham results due to Joey and Duffo being their respective managers, and they both seem to have that Dyche-like knack of grinding out results by the odd goal, and not losing too often. Never seen either team play so can't comment on the style of football but thought it interesting.

Two great signings and was Duff the best 25k Burnley have ever spent? I just loved Barton here. He kept his cool most times under extreme provocation when playing for us. Only Lincoln he lost it a bit. but only a bit in a game where Gudmundsson was 'done' and has, seemongly, never fully recovered.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by Claret32yrs » Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:22 am

JohnDearyMe wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:10 am
Yes he was a genuine leader on the pitch for us.
As per your user name. John Deary was similar. Remember him grabbing Dean Kiely by the throat at York. He was a no nonsense general at lower level.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by Devils_Advocate » Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:30 am

Stayingup wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:21 am
Two great signings and was Duff the best 25k Burnley have ever spent?
Nope we still had to pay him a wage whilst he was here and whilst being a brilliant servant and a top bloke he was never at any stage one of our top 4 or 5 better players.

Id say paying nothing for Heaton was better value than Duff if you are gonna look at it in transfer fees alone.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by houseboy » Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:14 am

claretblue wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:32 pm
think he was captain in everything but the armband during his time with us! ;)

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Absolutely mate. He wasn't afraid to b*ll*ck anyone who he thought wasn't pulling their weight and yes, as and when the time comes (later rather than sooner though I hope) I would welcome the guy back as manager, sod all the over hyped and moaning so-called top managers, this guy will have what it takes for Burnley Football Club (but not quite yet - old Seany has a few years in him yet).
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Re: Joey Barton

Post by Stayingup » Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:42 am

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:30 am
Nope we still had to pay him a wage whilst he was here and whilst being a brilliant servant and a top bloke he was never at any stage one of our top 4 or 5 better players.

Id say paying nothing for Heaton was better value than Duff if you are gonna look at it in transfer fees alone.
I did say the best 25k SPENT.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by JohnDearyMe » Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:03 am

Claret32yrs wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:22 am
As per your user name. John Deary was similar. Remember him grabbing Dean Kiely by the throat at York. He was a no nonsense general at lower level.
Haha i bet Kiely wasn't expecting that after taking a swipe at Painter!

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by ClaretLoup » Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:17 am

Fleetwood came down to Suffolk recently and did a job on Lambert's Ipswich, although the latter are bottom of the League current form league atm so that's not difficult. In the reverse fixture, Barton tried to undermine the opposition using mind games and trapping off about Ipswich in the media. They lost to Ipswich at home & after the game he found all the articles pinned to the away dressing room wall. This time he kept his gob shut and reversed the result. However you would think that he might have worked all that out beforehand.

Having seen them play and hold Sunderland to a draw recently I would say that with limited resources Barton has done a remarkable job, they defend like Burnley and but play differently when in possession as you might expect from the type of player Barton was himself.

Re future Burnley manager, I think that unpredictability is his biggest liability, you can see him punching the likes of Mourinho on the snout rather than laughing it all off like Sean does.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by MACCA » Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:51 pm

Barton has 16 points fro. 18, with only a 93rd minute equaliser for Sunderland at the stadium of light the only marker on otherwise a perfect run. He even had some banter in the post match interview with the Sunderland fans.

There were some very tricky matches in that run too

I really hope they go up.

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by Middle-agedClaret » Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:02 pm

Isn’t he still waiting for his assault charge to be heard

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Re: Joey Barton

Post by Dark Cloud » Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:31 pm

The only guy who could be named as League One manager of the month and Tyson Fury's next opponent on the same day! A legend!!

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