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Close Scotland Off?

Post by KateR » Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:37 pm

would it be worth closing an imaginary border with Scotland for a month, let NS see how life would be after independence?

Of course I don't really believe we should, let alone think we would but just thought I'd jot it down as a fleeting thought.

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Re: Close Scotland Off?

Post by Steve1956 » Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:41 pm

KateR wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:37 pm
would it be worth closing an imaginary border with Scotland for a month, let NS see how life would be after independence?

Of course I don't really believe we should, let alone think we would but just thought I'd jot it down as a fleeting thought.
Whoaaaaaa......hang on a minute let me come home first before you cast them adrift. :D
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Re: Close Scotland Off?

Post by dougcollins » Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:49 pm

Yeah, let's cut ourselves off from as many foreigners as is humanly possible.

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Re: Close Scotland Off?

Post by thatdberight » Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:50 pm

Yes.

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Re: Close Scotland Off?

Post by CJW » Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:52 pm

Don't be daft. At least wait until May and after my holiday.
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Re: Close Scotland Off?

Post by houseboy » Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:58 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: Great idea - quick before Steve can sell up and come home. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Close Scotland Off?

Post by Steve1956 » Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:02 pm

houseboy wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:58 pm
:lol: :lol: :lol: Great idea - quick before Steve can sell up and come home. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Be careful......i know where you live. :?
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Re: Close Scotland Off?

Post by houseboy » Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:06 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:02 pm
Be careful......i know where you live. :?
How long you been up there now buddy? It certainly looks beautiful there from the pics you posted last week.

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Re: Close Scotland Off?

Post by Steve1956 » Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:13 pm

houseboy wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:06 pm
How long you been up there now buddy? It certainly looks beautiful there from the pics you posted last week.
17 months and counting Ian,been back home about five or six times in that time to visit my Mum and take in a game its either snowed or plssed it down on each ocassion after i left behind a fantastic sunny climate here,Rossendale has very strange weather and is a weird place but eventually i will come home to settle for my final years .....it is also a wonderful place to live. :)

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Re: Close Scotland Off?

Post by Gordaleman » Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:15 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:49 pm
Yeah, let's cut ourselves off from as many foreigners as is humanly possible.
Are you including that lot down the M65?

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Re: Close Scotland Off?

Post by houseboy » Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:21 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:13 pm
17 months and counting Ian,been back home about five or six times in that time to visit my Mum and take in a game its either snowed or plssed it down on each ocassion after i left behind a fantastic sunny climate here,Rossendale has very strange weather and is a weird place but eventually i will come home to settle for my final years .....it is also a wonderful place to live. :)
Hey bud if ever you come back look me up - 40-odd years is far too long. The irony is The Crown (now called the Bees Knees I think) is the only pub in Rawtenstall now. Remember when that was the staring point for about 3-4 busloads of us Clarets from Rossendale? Ha ha - you in that long coat you used to wear complaining that Paul Fletchers bin was always too heavy. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Close Scotland Off?

Post by Steve1956 » Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:27 pm

houseboy wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:21 pm
Hey bud if ever you come back look me up - 40-odd years is far too long. The irony is The Crown (now called the Bees Knees I think) is the only pub in Rawtenstall now. Remember when that was the staring point for about 3-4 busloads of us Clarets from Rossendale? Ha ha - you in that long coat you used to wear complaining that Paul Fletchers bin was always too heavy. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Paul Fletcher's bin was always way to heavy,in 1988 i ended up living next door but one to him up Newchurch one day he sent my five year old son home dressed as Ado!f Hitler along with a drawn on little tash.....ill have to dig that photo out....happy days.

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Re: Close Scotland Off?

Post by houseboy » Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:34 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:27 pm
Paul Fletcher's bin was always way to heavy,in 1988 i ended up living next door but one to him up Newchurch one day he sent my five year old son home dressed as Ado!f Hitler along with a drawn on little tash.....ill have to dig that photo out....happy days.
Adolf Hitler??? Dare I ask??? :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Close Scotland Off?

Post by Steve1956 » Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:40 pm

houseboy wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:34 pm
Adolf Hitler??? Dare I ask??? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Gimme a few weeks,the ex wife still lives in said house although Fletcher has long since moved on ill ask her to dig the photo out!
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Re: Close Scotland Off?

Post by Buxtonclaret » Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:46 pm

houseboy wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:21 pm
Hey bud if ever you come back look me up - 40-odd years is far too long. The irony is The Crown (now called the Bees Knees I think) is the only pub in Rawtenstall now. Remember when that was the staring point for about 3-4 busloads of us Clarets from Rossendale? Ha ha - you in that long coat you used to wear complaining that Paul Fletchers bin was always too heavy. :lol: :lol: :lol:

The only pub left..?
Wow...

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Re: Close Scotland Off?

Post by elwaclaret » Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:49 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:27 pm
Paul Fletcher's bin was always way to heavy,in 1988 i ended up living next door but one to him up Newchurch one day he sent my five year old son home dressed as Ado!f Hitler along with a drawn on little tash.....ill have to dig that photo out....happy days.
My mate lived across the road from you then.... Alex Matthuis (sp), he used to pall out with the Mannings baker lad that got killed on his bike (Nick).

Small world.

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Re: Close Scotland Off?

Post by houseboy » Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:55 pm

Buxtonclaret wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:46 pm
The only pub left..?
Wow...
Yeah - there are a few shops that have been turned into bars but there is now only one pub.

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Re: Close Scotland Off?

Post by Bosscat » Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:57 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:41 pm
Whoaaaaaa......hang on a minute let me come home first before you cast them adrift. :D
But you could be contageous Steve ffs...

You will have to go into Quarantine and Self Isolate :D

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Re: Close Scotland Off?

Post by houseboy » Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:00 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:57 pm
But you could be contageous Steve ffs...

You will have to go into Quarantine and Self Isolate :D
Don't they all have to do that when they pass Carlisle? :lol:
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Re: Close Scotland Off?

Post by Buxtonclaret » Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:01 pm

houseboy wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:55 pm
Yeah - there are a few shops that have been turned into bars but there is now only one pub.

Not stopped off there for a beer in ages. But that's a surprise.
Ha. Thought the world had gone mad when The Bishop changed its name yonks ago!
I'm a Rawtenstall lad by birth.

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Re: Close Scotland Off?

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:02 pm

Can we do Yorkshire first?
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Re: Close Scotland Off?

Post by Steve1956 » Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:05 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:49 pm
My mate lived across the road from you then.... Alex Matthuis (sp), he used to pall out with the Mannings baker lad that got killed on his bike (Nick).

Small world.
Lived up there,Heightside Ave 88 to 06 cant remember Alex though,remember the Manning boy getting killed though,they were probably a lot younger than me children of parents that lived up there possibly but like you say the world is a very small place these days.

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Re: Close Scotland Off?

Post by Steve1956 » Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:07 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:57 pm
But you could be contageous Steve ffs...

You will have to go into Quarantine and Self Isolate :D
Already in quarantine buddy,i want to be fit and healthy to travel down and watch us relegate Brighton on the last day of the season
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Re: Close Scotland Off?

Post by Bosscat » Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:09 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:07 pm
Already in quarantine buddy,i want to be fit and healthy to travel down and watch us relegate Brighton on the last day of the season
Whenever that may be :roll:

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Re: Close Scotland Off?

Post by Steve1956 » Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:11 pm

Buxtonclaret wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:01 pm
Not stopped off there for a beer in ages. But that's a surprise.
Ha. Thought the world had gone mad when The Bishop changed its name yonks ago!
I'm a Rawtenstall lad by birth.
The Bishop is a Indian restaurant now,the Shepherd 's White Lion Railway Tavern and i think the Ashworth Arms on Bacup rd is still going with Melvin Harrison still the landlord he must be in his 80s
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Re: Close Scotland Off?

Post by Steve1956 » Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:15 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:09 pm
Whenever that may be :roll:
A nice sunny day in July would be a fitting way to say goodbye to Brighton :)
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Post by Claret32yrs » Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:21 pm

KateR wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:37 pm
would it be worth closing an imaginary border with Scotland for a month, let NS see how life would be after independence?

Of course I don't really believe we should, let alone think we would but just thought I'd jot it down as a fleeting thought.
It did cross my mind this morning, simply because in a situation as serious as this. Surely all the nations devolved or otherwise Government's should be singing from the same same hymn sheet. No point limiting crowds to 500 in Edinburgh, then there's a gig in Berwick where crowds are ok at 5,000 strong and 2,000 Jocks attend. Defeats the whole point.

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Re: Close Scotland Off?

Post by houseboy » Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:36 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:11 pm
The Bishop is a Indian restaurant now,the Shepherd 's White Lion Railway Tavern and i think the Ashworth Arms on Bacup rd is still going with Melvin Harrison still the landlord he must be in his 80s
Ashworths always looks closed up when I pass it mate. Went past the other day and it doesn't look like the windows have been cleaned in a year. It was shut anyway. White Lion is still going I think and the Shepherds but the town centre pubs are all gone bar the old Crown. Even the Queens is gone now and that was a haunt of mine for years - played more gigs there than I've had hot dinners. The Sun was ploughed into the ground years ago. The Rams Head has been a couple of things but I think it's a hair dressers now. Old House at Home up Newchurch Road long gone. The Railway was changed to the Riverside Inn but don't what is going on there now. Not sure if it was a Chinese at one point. Not been up Bury Road in ages and I used to live just up from there as you know. The thing is Rawtenstall died years ago mate but there are definite signs that it is getting a new lease of life as me and my wife were saying only last week. Some expensive shops on Bank Street (a friend of mine has one), there are some trendy-ish bars and property is still on the pricey side. Main problem now is the traffic, it's bloody awful at peak times and it seems that roadworks are a permanent fixture these days.

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Re: Close Scotland Off?

Post by KateR » Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:40 pm

I like Brighton as a place though.

Blackpool early July without the Scots would go bankrupt surely.

We do have a timeshare mid August on the bank of Bonny Loch Lomond but already decided not using this year, nothing to do with the virus though.

My eldest moved to Ramsbottom recently and was very pleasantly surprised with the bars/pubs there as had not been in decades in reality.

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Re: Close Scotland Off?

Post by Steve1956 » Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:41 pm

houseboy wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:36 pm
Ashworths always looks closed up when I pass it mate. Went past the other day and it doesn't look like the windows have been cleaned in a year. It was shut anyway. White Lion is still going I think and the Shepherds but the town centre pubs are all gone bar the old Crown. Even the Queens is gone now and that was a haunt of mine for years - played more gigs there than I've had hot dinners. The Sun was ploughed into the ground years ago. The Rams Head has been a couple of things but I think it's a hair dressers now. Old House at Home up Newchurch Road long gone. The Railway was changed to the Riverside Inn but don't what is going on there now. Not sure if it was a Chinese at one point. Not been up Bury Road in ages and I used to live just up from there as you know. The thing is Rawtenstall died years ago mate but there are definite signs that it is getting a new lease of life as me and my wife were saying only last week. Some expensive shops on Bank Street (a friend of mine has one), there are some trendy-ish bars and property is still on the pricey side. Main problem now is the traffic, it's bloody awful at peak times and it seems that roadworks are a permanent fixture these days.
I'm on a Rossendale forum on Facebook Ian,just asked them about the Ashworths it's still open and Melvin is still running it at 85 years old.

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Re: Close Scotland Off?

Post by Buxtonclaret » Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:42 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:11 pm
The Bishop is a Indian restaurant now,the Shepherd 's White Lion Railway Tavern and i think the Ashworth Arms on Bacup rd is still going with Melvin Harrison still the landlord he must be in his 80s
Left Rawtenstall as 2 yo.
But later on spent school hols at my Grandma's all through 60s.
Before I was old enough to drink, remember Stan Wainwright was the landlord of the Bishop Blaize.
With his handle bar moustach and violins decorating the walls. :) He could play too!
His sidekick, Polish Eddie used to take me to the Turf before I was allowed to go myself.
Both old family friends.
Still shared a beer with them until the mid/late 80s passing through on my way to the Turf. :)
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Re: Close Scotland Off?

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Steve1956 wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:07 pm
Already in quarantine buddy,i want to be fit and healthy to travel down and watch us relegate Brighton on the last day of the season
You've got till May next year to do that, according to the worst case scenario merchants on here :D
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Re: Close Scotland Off?

Post by Steve1956 » Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:49 pm

rob63 wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:46 pm
You've got till May next year to do that, according to the worst case scenario merchants on here :D
God loves a doom merchant :lol:

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Re: Close Scotland Off?

Post by Steve1956 » Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:51 pm

Just got told Melvin Harrison is still the landlord at the Ashworths hes 85 and been in there since 1970 thats some innings as a landlord these days...well played Melvin.!

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Re: Close Scotland Off?

Post by houseboy » Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:52 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:41 pm
I'm on a Rossendale forum on Facebook Ian,just asked them about the Ashworths it's still open and Melvin is still running it at 85 years old.
For goodness sake that might explain a few things. Every time I go past the door is shut and as I said it looks derelict. I don't personally know Melvin - how long has he had it because a mate of mine's dad used to have it in the 80s. Is his surname Ralphs? Did he used to live in Canada at one point? Colin Ralph was a mate of mine back in the day but as it happened we were also at school together for a short time when he just came back from Canada.

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Re: Close Scotland Off?

Post by IanMcL » Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:54 pm

KateR wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:37 pm
would it be worth closing an imaginary border with Scotland for a month, let NS see how life would be after independence?

Of course I don't really believe we should, let alone think we would but just thought I'd jot it down as a fleeting thought.
I think Scotland had that thought first!
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Re: Close Scotland Off?

Post by KateR » Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:59 pm

Ian,
I wondered when you would appear lol, much later than I thought to be honest :)

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Post by AlargeClaret » Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:10 pm

Seems the Scots are spreading this almost as fast as the Welsh . While I appreciate Wales is a poverty strewn country of little value and even less education,I’d have expected slightly better from the Scots . Yes there’s obesity ,alcoholism, drug use,simpletons and a diet rooted in chocolate and chip fat but St Nicola of Sturgeon should have surely told them to stay out of spoons for a few days...

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Re: Close Scotland Off?

Post by IanMcL » Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:43 pm

KateR wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:59 pm
Ian,
I wondered when you would appear lol, much later than I thought to be honest :)
I was elsewhere scrambling about and visiting an old lady, before the ban sets in!

Glad you think of me though Kate! ;)
This closing the world is not good.
Stay well.
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Re: Close Scotland Off?

Post by IanMcL » Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:46 pm

0 cases in the Western Isles and Orkneys.

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Post by KateR » Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:48 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:46 pm
0 cases in the Western Isles and Orkneys.
so this would be tick in the isolate yourself box then. is it not?
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