ST Renewals - General Concensus?

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by Bfcboyo » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:20 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:01 pm
S127 in CF stand, please do the decent thing and escort me out in person :cry:
Oh your one of those are you. Revelling in the good old days in the CFS . I will let you continue your punishment and remain in there for now.
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Chicken...??? You yellow boyo...???

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Leave the fishing to me amateur.

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by Zlatan » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:24 pm

Bfcboyo wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:20 pm
Oh your one of those are you. Revelling in the good old days in the CFS . I will let you continue your punishment and remain in there for now.
Chicken...??? You yellow boyo...???

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Bfcboyo wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:20 pm

Leave the fishing to me amateur.
He who can’t use the quote function properly calling me amateur :lol:

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:27 pm

I’ve warned once that if this bickering continues then there will be no option but to remove you from posting.
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Post by Zlatan » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:34 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:27 pm
I’ve warned once that if this bickering continues then there will be no option but to remove you from posting.
I hope you don’t mean me CT! Just pointing out how daft the posts were...

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by dsr » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:47 pm

As has been pointed out, we don't know what's happening. Therefore it is blindingly obvious to me, at least, that the early bird period and the reserve-your-own-seat period should continue until they do know what's happening. Simples.

I have no idea why this hasn't been announced already, except that presumably to the club, it isn't so simple. But if they don't extend the early bird period, it means they want people to commit to buying a ticket for something that may or may not happen, and if it does happen, they don't know when. That's no way to run a business. Yoiu don't get the holiday companies saying that they want you to book a holiday but they don't know when you will be able to go or how long it will last.

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Post by Woodleyclaret » Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:07 am

It cant last foreever and with aurorenew it just carries on
My school has shut till futher notice but my contract finishes in April.
My worry is the students taking GCSE and A level this Summer.There is still no real word about how these grades will be awarded

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Post by karatekid » Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:07 am

What is the email address to cancel next seasons ST. I am on continuous DD now but unfortunately I have just been told by my employer that because of the huge drop in orders just lately and for the foreseeable future I will be on short time working from Monday. I need to make some cutbacks immediately.
Damn this virus. 🙁

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by Dy1geo » Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:16 am

karatekid wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:07 am
What is the email address to cancel next seasons ST. I am on continuous DD now but unfortunately I have just been told by my employer that because of the huge drop in orders just lately and for the foreseeable future I will be on short time working from Monday. I need to make some cutbacks immediately.
Damn this virus. 🙁
Claret Tony with your contacts to the club can you pass this message on to the powers that be. The club should do what the banks are doing and let people take payment holidays from April to July and then put the Direct Debit over 8 months so at least people like the poster don’t lose their seats.
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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by Grumps » Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:26 am

dsr wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:47 pm
As has been pointed out, we don't know what's happening. Therefore it is blindingly obvious to me, at least, that the early bird period and the reserve-your-own-seat period should continue until they do know what's happening. Simples.

I have no idea why this hasn't been announced already, except that presumably to the club, it isn't so simple. But if they don't extend the early bird period, it means they want people to commit to buying a ticket for something that may or may not happen, and if it does happen, they don't know when. That's no way to run a business. Yoiu don't get the holiday companies saying that they want you to book a holiday but they don't know when you will be able to go or how long it will last.
I suggest you go on the holiday websites, as they are certainly selling holidays for times it is unlikely that the holiday will take place.

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by Spike » Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:38 pm

renewed automatically .

the things you want to survive this crisis must be maintained so that we can resume as soon as possible.

short term gain may give you a lifetime of pain if you stop funding things that you will want when normality returns and that doesnt just apply to Burnley FC
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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by Roosterbooster » Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:11 pm

This has been bugging me for some time. I'll renew, but obviously many won't until the future is clearer. Latest advice is that the measures could be in place for most of the year. So it would seem impossible to complete 2 full seasons by June next year. I'd aim to complete the season by December, and then have half seasons Jan to June the year after by splitting each league into 2 based on positions. I'd cancel this years European competitions, and guarantee knockout stage next year for all those still in the competition. And cancel next seasons League cup. Get the PL teams to guarantee more cash flow down the leagues for next 10 years, and offer low interest loans so clubs survive. And as an incentive, offer a European place to the winner of the Playoff cup. Top 2 in each league (other than PL (A), where top 2 who arent automatically in Europe go through) entered into a knock out competition. So even the lowest league teams have something huge to play for. Might not be Europe, but a tie against a top team

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by Gordaleman » Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:55 pm

Don't know if this has been posted previously but it may answer a few questions fans are asking. It's on the BFC Webpage.

Tickets & Hospitality FAQ's
We understand that due to these unprecedented events that there may be some confusion around the 2019/2020 Premier League fixtures and how this relates to match tickets and season tickets.

Burnley FC and the Premier League are aiming to ultimately ensure that supporters receive a conclusion to the 2019/2020 season and as such all Premier League fixtures are simply 'postponed' until such time as the season can be completed in full. Any match or hospitality tickets purchased for these postponed games will still be valid if the fixture is rearranged, and a new date is confirmed. 2019/2020 season tickets will still be valid for the rearranged matches at Turf Moor. Please note that as the 2019/2020 season is set to be completed as matches are 'postponed', the final direct debit payment in March will still be taken as scheduled.

Supporters who have purchased or autorenewed for a 2020/2021 earlybird season ticket will be unaffected by the issues caused by the Coronavirus disruption and will eligible to attend 2020/2021 Premier League matches at Turf Moor when the season starts. The earlybird deadline ends on 31st March and season tickets are still on sale click here for more.

Once rearranged fixture dates for postponed matches (both home & away) have been officially confirmed any supporters who cannot attend at that time will be eligible for a refund - this is applicable for match tickets only and not for season ticket holders. Details to be made available in due course once rearranged fixture dates are released.

At this stage the England U21 v Turkey U21 International fixture, set for Monday 30th March, is postponed with a potential rearranged fixture date to be confirmed in due course.

https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/clu ... ronavirus/
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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by Darthlaw » Fri Mar 20, 2020 6:21 pm

So, in layman’s terms:

Deadline is still in a week, even though we don’t know when the new season may start. Just give us your money blindly, please, even though you don’t know if you can afford it, nor when you’ll get what you’ve bought.

If you bought individual tickets for the remaining home games and can’t make it, you can have your money back. If you have a ST, tough ****.

I have to be honest, with this approach, and say I’m disappointed, if not unsurprised.
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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by Bfcboyo » Fri Mar 20, 2020 6:39 pm

Spike wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:38 pm
renewed automatically .

the things you want to survive this crisis must be maintained so that we can resume as soon as possible.

short term gain may give you a lifetime of pain if you stop funding things that you will want when normality returns and that doesnt just apply to Burnley FC
Utter nonsense. Lock your money away for your family is priority as we do not know how bad things will get.

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by Goalposts » Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:35 pm

always leave my renewal to last week of early bird , just found out that ticket office is now closed for the foreseeable future.

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Post by beddie » Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:13 pm

Think I've lost the plot. I can't seem to find a link that takes you to the season ticket renewals where you log in first and can see all your history etc. I just want to renew. Any help appreciated.

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Post by Grumps » Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:39 pm

Darthlaw wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 6:21 pm
So, in layman’s terms:

Deadline is still in a week, even though we don’t know when the new season may start. Just give us your money blindly, please, even though you don’t know if you can afford it, nor when you’ll get what you’ve bought.

If you bought individual tickets for the remaining home games and can’t make it, you can have your money back. If you have a ST, tough ****.

I have to be honest, with this approach, and say I’m disappointed, if not unsurprised.
Being a season ticket holder, I don't know the rules around individual match tickets, would you normally get a refund if you cannot attend a rearranged game? Surely the same rules should apply to season ticket holders, even if its a reduced figure because we don't pay the top price per game.

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by Zlatan » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:11 pm

beddie wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:13 pm
Think I've lost the plot. I can't seem to find a link that takes you to the season ticket renewals where you log in first and can see all your history etc. I just want to renew. Any help appreciated.
https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/tic ... n-tickets/

All detail here including links to online purchase. May be easier from PC instead of phone though

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Post by beddie » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:36 pm

Zlatan. Thank you very much for that. I'll sort it on the lap top. Thanks again.
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Post by dsr » Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:20 am

Grumps wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:39 pm
Being a season ticket holder, I don't know the rules around individual match tickets, would you normally get a refund if you cannot attend a rearranged game? Surely the same rules should apply to season ticket holders, even if its a reduced figure because we don't pay the top price per game.
Normally you don't get a refund if you're a season ticket holder and can't make a game. One of the reasons season ticket holders get a reduced price per game is because they won't attend every game.

On the other hand, some clubs have recognised that these are not normal circumstances. Accrington Stanley, for example, offered all their season ticket holders the chance to cancel their season tickets and claim a refund, with 5 games to go. This was before all matches were cancelled and was in acknowledgement of the fact that some supporters, old and young, would be unable, unwise, or simply unwilling to attend while the virus was running.

Maybe Accrington can afford to make special arrangements for special circumstances but Burnley can't? I doubt that.

What would it cost the club to simply say that the early bird period is extended indefinitely, until we know what's happening. As it stands, I am even considering buying a ticket for Stanley instead. After all, a lot of our games are on telly.

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Post by Bfcboyo » Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:21 am

BFC have the reserves to get through this and are not announcing anything in the hope that the herd continue to pay for nothing for the next 6 months.

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Post by mdd2 » Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:53 am

That's great news Bfcboyo. Given contracts have to be honoured, I doubt the dry powder will last very long as I doubt Sky will be paying out.

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Post by agreenwood » Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:11 am

I’m not renewing my ST until I know there’ll be a season to watch.

If I lose the seat I’ve had for the last 10 years and have to sit somewhere else, then so be it.
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Post by CnBtruntru » Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:13 am

Darthlaw wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:53 pm
Good point but lots of people going to be facing some financial uncertainty in the next few weeks, even 'real' fans. FACT.

I certainly wouldnt decry someone who, facing the choice of a ST renewal or food/mortgage/essential cost, chose to prioritise the essentials over outlaying for something so up in the air.
The old long ball quip again eh. ;)
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Post by Stayingup » Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:49 am

I need to renew this week. Can someone advise should I go to the ground or can I do it on line?

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Post by Zlatan » Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:57 am

Stayingup wrote:
Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:49 am
I need to renew this week. Can someone advise should I go to the ground or can I do it on line?
Considering the ticket office is closed I would advise online

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Post by Bfcboyo » Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:06 am

mdd2 wrote:
Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:53 am
That's great news Bfcboyo. Given contracts have to be honoured, I doubt the dry powder will last very long as I doubt Sky will be paying out.
They need to tell the very well off players that as the season is off the pay will be suspended. I'm sure they can take it.

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Post by 2 Bee Holed » Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:34 am

Can someone remind me please;
I you are on a 12mth continuous direct debit
when is the last payment or the 19/20 season taken and
when does the first payment or the 20/21 season start?

I feel duty bound to honour the 19/20 season whenever that ends!
but as things stand, I am not sure the 20/21 season will happen.

Had the government yesterday guaranteed that everyone would earn 80% of their normal wage
and not omit 11m of the workforce, I might not be having to think like this.

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Post by karatekid » Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:37 pm

karatekid wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:07 am
What is the email address to cancel next seasons ST. I am on continuous DD now but unfortunately I have just been told by my employer that because of the huge drop in orders just lately and for the foreseeable future I will be on short time working from Monday. I need to make some cutbacks immediately.
Damn this virus. 🙁
I emailed the ticket office yesterday and with a huge amount of sorrow I have cancelled my renewal. I was paying over £50 a month for my two ST's as I take my son on with me. He is gutted but he understands the situation that I and a lot of other people find themselves in. It's a shame the club didn't freeze payments or come up with some other way to help out the fans before the deadline for renewals.

Yesterday the Gov't closed all the gyms. Today my gym emailed me to say they were freezing payments immediately until they re-open. I was going to cancel the membership but now I may not have to.

Hopefully it won't be too long before things get back to normal. As Arnie once said ' I'll be back'. ;)

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Post by Bfcboyo » Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:56 pm

Club needs to show some decency and suspend direct debits. Players need to show decency and accept a lower wage until things are back to normal. Taking full pay on the disgusting amounts of money footballers get at a time like this pure greed and an insult to society.
This should be across all the leagues above a set salary. They are no longer gods they are now just overpaid runners until football resumes. And I hope this pandemic has a knock on effect and brings the amount of money in the top leagues down to a sensible level across the world.
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Post by Grumps » Sat Mar 21, 2020 5:06 pm

Bfcboyo wrote:
Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:56 pm
Club needs to show some decency and suspend direct debits. Players need to show decency and accept a lower wage until things are back to normal. Taking full pay on the disgusting amounts of money footballers get at a time like this pure greed and an insult to society.
This should be across all the leagues above a set salary. They are no longer gods they are now just overpaid runners until football resumes. And I hope this pandemic has a knock on effect and brings the amount of money in the top leagues down to a sensible level across the world.
Yes the club should do more, but not sure why the players should take a pay cut. As far as iam aware they are still training, and therefore still working, just because they earn huge sums doesn't mean they can just take a pay cut, their lifestyle will be based on their wage, I doubt they have £300 per month mortgages to service.

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Post by IanMcL » Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:12 pm

What day is St Renewals day?

Is there a procession with an icon?

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Post by Pimlico_Claret » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:01 am

Grumps wrote:
Sat Mar 21, 2020 5:06 pm
Yes the club should do more, but not sure why the players should take a pay cut. As far as iam aware they are still training, and therefore still working, just because they earn huge sums doesn't mean they can just take a pay cut, their lifestyle will be based on their wage, I doubt they have £300 per month mortgages to service.
They might be training but they aren't playing, job description reduced unless we decide to rename them trainers. Not sure there's much sympathy at the moment for multi millionaires who are sitting at home untouched by what's going on.

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Post by Grumps » Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:59 am

Pimlico_Claret wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:01 am
They might be training but they aren't playing, job description reduced unless we decide to rename them trainers. Not sure there's much sympathy at the moment for multi millionaires who are sitting at home untouched by what's going on.
How are they untouched?

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Post by wilks_bfc » Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:02 am

Grumps wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:59 am
How are they untouched?
Don’t you know that once you become a professional footballer you become immune to all things us “normal” people have to cope with.

Things like mental health, depression, addictions & picking up viruses
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Post by PutTheWheelieBinsOut » Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:47 am

If the deadline isn't extended it shows the absolute contempt the club as for it's own supporters. Supporters who could be on lower hours, pay cuts and having to take time off to look after their children.

The club can easily do this and extend the deadline for current season ticket holders to the end of July, if they choose not to it's shameful.
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Post by Pimlico_Claret » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:50 am

Grumps wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:59 am
How are they untouched?
Financially I meant

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Post by Grumps » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:08 am

There's a lot of other workers untouched financially, depends on your occupation. Just because they get paid more doesn't mean they should take a pay cut. Unless you've never been to a burnley game, or never paid for sky, you've happily paid towards their wealth, plus in reality they will be on less at the moment, as their wages are very much bonus based, goals scored, clean sheets, win bonus etc
Yes, nurses doctors police fire etc etc should all get paid more, but that's always been the case.

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Post by Zlatan » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:54 am

Pimlico_Claret wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:50 am
Financially I meant
That’s alright then. Money can buy health

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Post by Pimlico_Claret » Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:05 am

Zlatan wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:54 am
That’s alright then. Money can buy health
Never said it did, though it seems useful in accessing the virus tests.

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Post by Zlatan » Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:21 am

Pimlico_Claret wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:05 am
Never said it did, though it seems useful in accessing the virus tests.
I know. It can’t buy them intelligence either, with many going to Cheltenham races and catching a cold...

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by claret2018 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:09 pm

Anyone buying a season ticket for next season now is throwing money down the toilet. No one knows what is going to happen, and it’s looking less likely every day that next season will take place at all

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Post by Barry_Chuckle » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:13 pm

Surely if you renew your ST and the season never takes place, the club are duty bound to make a full refund.

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Post by claret2018 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:19 pm

Barry_Chuckle wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:13 pm
Surely if you renew your ST and the season never takes place, the club are duty bound to make a full refund.
Presumably, if the club still exists

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Post by Barry_Chuckle » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:29 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:19 pm
Presumably, if the club still exists
Really? It's a virus not Armageddon :roll:

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by Bosscat » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:37 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:09 pm
Anyone buying a season ticket for next season now is throwing money down the toilet. No one knows what is going to happen, and it’s looking less likely every day that next season will take place at all
Buying Toilet paper is money "down the toilet" but some mad b**tards are clearing the shelves of Bog Roll.
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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by claret2018 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:44 pm

Barry_Chuckle wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:29 pm
Really? It's a virus not Armageddon :roll:
It’s looking like economic Armageddon is a possibility, depending on how the next few weeks pan out. I certainly wouldn’t rule out half of all businesses today not existing by Christmas

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by Grumps » Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:09 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:44 pm
It’s looking like economic Armageddon is a possibility, depending on how the next few weeks pan out. I certainly wouldn’t rule out half of all businesses today not existing by Christmas
Why?

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