ST Renewals - General Concensus?

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ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by Darthlaw » Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:50 pm

Where is everyone up to on this? Have you renewed, will you renew in the early bird or are you waiting to see if the club does anything different?

I have to be honest and say I will be waiting till the very last moment and will probably renew but I do think the club should look to extend the deadline, given the uncertainty.

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by evensteadiereddie » Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:51 pm

Renewed.

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by Devils_Advocate » Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:52 pm

Real fans renew....FACT

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by Darthlaw » Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:53 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:52 pm
Real fans renew....FACT
Good point but lots of people going to be facing some financial uncertainty in the next few weeks, even 'real' fans. FACT.

I certainly wouldnt decry someone who, facing the choice of a ST renewal or food/mortgage/essential cost, chose to prioritise the essentials over outlaying for something so up in the air.
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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by Murger » Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:55 pm

What about the current direct debits? If for arguments sake the season is cancelled, what happens then?

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:56 pm

Mine is on auto renewal in any case but it is going to become a problem

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by Devils_Advocate » Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:56 pm

Darthlaw wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:53 pm
Good point
Thanks

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:57 pm

Murger wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:55 pm
What about the current direct debits? If for arguments sake the season is cancelled, what happens then?
There is only one payment to go and that is next week. Current plan is to finish the season so nothing to do yet, but if the season doesn't finish then we'll have to see what happens then.
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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by Vintage Claret » Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:58 pm

Like many others I pay on DD so it just renews automatically unless I cancel which I can't bring myself to do at the moment.

Trying to think positive and have something to look forward to when the crisis is over.
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Post by Funkydrummer » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:10 pm

Auto renewed as, luckily, not affected financially by coronabastard.

If we miss some matches this season the club will most likely give credit towards next season's
tickets. Also they may delay taking the direct debits for a month or so for next season to help ease the burden
for those that are affected.

Either way, it's a very difficult environment, but the club will no doubt come up with a solution as soon
as they can.

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by Bfcboyo » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:39 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:52 pm
Real fans renew....FACT
Renewing is fine just would expect all payments are on hold until normal service resumes.

You may not get to see a live match for 7 months. And the club have enough money to see them through. So why anybody would pay in the meantime is beyond me.

The world needs mugs though.

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by houseboy » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:43 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:52 pm
Real fans renew....FACT
Nice cast DA. ;)
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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by martin_p » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:49 pm

I suspect they’ll see what the renewal figures are like in a weeks time and decide on extending the deadline or not then. I haven’t renewed yet, although if push comes to shove I’ll do it at the last minute, but it’s a fair point about those whose livelihood’s are affected by the virus who may not have the cash to spare at the moment even for a direct debit payment. I think given the season will (at best) be extended until the end of June they should be looking to extend the early bird deadline as well.
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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by Murger » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:16 pm

The only reason I ask about the current direct debit payment is that I'm about to be put on short time with what's going on. Losing 4/5 days pay a month. Every penny counts.

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by paulatky » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:20 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:57 pm
There is only one payment to go and that is next week. Current plan is to finish the season so nothing to do yet, but if the season doesn't finish then we'll have to see what happens then.
No way will the season be finished unless it restarts in March 2021.

The club should extend the deadline for renewing
aswell as saying no further direct debits will be taken until football starts again. Many households will be affected financially by this crisis.

Mortgage payments and rental payments are to be put on hold for 3 months at least and likely much longer.

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:20 pm

Murger wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:16 pm
The only reason I ask about the current direct debit payment is that I'm about to be put on short time with what's going on. Losing 4/5 days pay a month. Every penny counts.
Can appreciate that - but there is only one payment remaining which should make things easier.

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by paulatky » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:27 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:20 pm
Can appreciate that - but there is only one payment remaining which should make things easier.
Payments for games we are unlikely to see.

When football returns to gain entry will cost 3 bog rolls ,as bog rolls have become the global currency.

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:29 pm

paulatky wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:27 pm
Payments for games we are unlikely to see.

When football returns to gain entry will cost 3 bog rolls ,as bog rolls have become the global currency.
We are heading into positive territory here, not long since you were trying to tell people the world will end and we are all gonna die now you are admitting football will return.

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by martin_p » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:29 pm

paulatky wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:27 pm
Payments for games we are unlikely to see.

When football returns to gain entry will cost 3 bog rolls ,as bog rolls have become the global currency.
Used to see bog rolls being taken on the match regularly during the late 70s/early 80s.

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by Grumps » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:31 pm

paulatky wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:27 pm
Payments for games we are unlikely to see.

When football returns to gain entry will cost 3 bog rolls ,as bog rolls have become the global currency.
Bog rolls will be worthless, people have enough for years and years having read all your posts saying the world is ending

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by Burnleyareback2 » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:33 pm

Done.

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by Beehole67 » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:42 pm

Renewed mine this morning but not sure if I've made the right decision. Other payments may become a priority over the next few months.
But at least the hope of seeing live football again next season is something to look forward to.

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by Bosscat » Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:05 pm

We renewed on the 1st day of Early Bird option...

Why wouldn't we ...

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Post by beddie » Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:13 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:05 pm
We renewed on the 1st day of Early Bird option...

Why wouldn't we ...
Shine off :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by beddie » Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:13 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:05 pm
We renewed on the 1st day of Early Bird option...

Why wouldn't we ...
Show off :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by Bosscat » Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:31 pm

beddie wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:13 pm
Shine off :lol: :lol: :lol:

beddie wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:13 pm
Show off :lol: :lol: :lol:
P**s Off :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by SalisburyClaret » Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:41 pm

If you don't want to continue with your direct debits and auto renew you need to get the letter back to the club by tomorrow. You can also email them - there's no date set for this but can assume you'd better get it done today/tomorrow

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by paulatky » Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:43 pm

Grumps wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:31 pm
Bog rolls will be worthless, people have enough for years and years having read all your posts saying the world is ending
Welcome back.

Your post 3 weeks ago that” how do we know the number of cases hadnt peaked already “sums up your understanding of this issue

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by The Enclosure » Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:13 pm

Auto renewed on direct debit.

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by yorkyclaret » Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:29 pm

Renewed mine a while back, not the first day though, I have no doubt the club will do the right thing.

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Post by Claretforever » Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:30 pm

I drove past the Park View late this afternoon and it was busy. That convinced me that everything was going to be fine, so I’m renewing. ;)

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Post by paulatky » Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:46 pm

Claretforever wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:30 pm
I drove past the Park View late this afternoon and it was busy. That convinced me that everything was going to be fine, so I’m renewing. ;)
The fact that people are not heeding the advice makes it more unlikely that football will start again.

When are people going to realise the seriousness of the situation

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Post by paulatky » Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:49 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:41 pm
If you don't want to continue with your direct debits and auto renew you need to get the letter back to the club by tomorrow. You can also email them - there's no date set for this but can assume you'd better get it done today/tomorrow
I was told over the phone by the ticket office that the deadline for sending the email cancellation was 30th March.
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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by clarethomer » Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:57 pm

I think the problem the club have is about making a decision around the current season payments we have made for games not seen;
  • Games postponed until 30th April
  • Government have announced today they expect (guess) that it will be 12 weeks before we see the otherside of the peak.
  • We don't know how long beyond those 12 weeks the restrictions will last - if the guess is accurate
  • The season could be extended indefinitely
Regardless, they could at least offer people financially impacted by the pandemic to request that they have their ST cancelled for the rest of the season and refund offered.

The easy problem to resolve is next season and pause taking money for this.

For me, the fairest option should be (which may not be the easiest to manage);
  • Allow people on the 12 month contract to amend their DD to be reduced to £1 should they want to commit to next season and have this for the next 3 months with the understanding that from month 4 - the shortfall would be equally spread over the remaining 8/9 months
  • Allow people to leave their DD as it is



Regardless of what they do - there should be some reassurance that nobody will be out of pocket financially.

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by IanMcL » Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:59 pm

My dd will continue. Life goes on. Something to look forward to.

I do understand that for some, that will not be an option, in the weeks to come.

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by Zlatan » Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:00 pm

I renewed mine yesterday.

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Post by Pimlico_Claret » Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:24 pm

Be nice if the millionaire players offered to forgo a tiny percentage of their wages to help the situation.

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by Grumps » Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:36 pm

paulatky wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:43 pm
Welcome back.

Your post 3 weeks ago that” how do we know the number of cases hadnt peaked already “sums up your understanding of this issue
As per usual you either misquote or leave bits outs, as in the... Nobody knows... Which followed the quote above.,which three weeks ago was very relevant, whereas your claim we'd have thousands of deaths by now isnt

Anyway this discussion should be on another thread, which lots of people have already left because of your outrageous claims.

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Post by clarethomer » Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:46 pm

I am happy to leave my DD running but for those who are economically/financially impacted, the club should be acting quickly to assist those people and making them aware of what their options are.

That is not a criticism of the club because they are probably working through things and could already be helping people that have already been in contact.

With the power/speed of their media channels - I can't see how it can't be done swiftly when they have agreed a way forward.
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Post by Bfcboyo » Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:05 pm

With multiple tickets in hospitality I really don't want to continue paying 500 a month without the footy on. I will be asking payments to be paused for the upcoming season until we know what is happening.

For all the paupers in the stands it shouldn't be such of a big task to carry on with payments.

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Post by Barry_Chuckle » Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:37 pm

Bfcboyo wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:05 pm
With multiple tickets in hospitality I really don't want to continue paying 500 a month without the footy on. I will be asking payments to be paused for the upcoming season until we know what is happening.

For all the paupers in the stands it shouldn't be such of a big task to carry on with payments.
What an arrogant post.
Be it £500 a month or £30 per month, it makes no difference, but to refer to others as "paupers" indicates that you are a bellend Sir :roll:
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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by Bosscat » Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:40 pm

Bfcboyo wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:05 pm
With multiple tickets in hospitality I really don't want to continue paying 500 a month without the footy on. I will be asking payments to be paused for the upcoming season until we know what is happening.

For all the paupers in the stands it shouldn't be such of a big task to carry on with payments.
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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by Bfcboyo » Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:42 pm

Barry_Chuckle wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:37 pm
What an arrogant post.
Be it £500 a month or £30 per month, it makes no difference, but to refer to others as "paupers" indicates that you are a bellend Sir :roll:
Patronising people like yourself saying the pandemic still allows you to pay your 30 pounds a month don't understand others situations only shows your tunnel vision. If I knew your seat number I'd have you banned.

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by Barry_Chuckle » Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:54 pm

[/quote]
If I knew your seat number I'd have you banned.
[/quote]

S127 in CF stand, please do the decent thing and escort me out in person :cry:
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Post by Bfcboyo » Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:15 pm

Barry_Chuckle wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:54 pm
If I knew your seat number I'd have you banned.
[/quote]

S127 in CF stand, please do the decent thing and escort me out in person :cry:
[/quote]

Oh your one of those are you. Revelling in the good old days in the CFS . I will let you continue your punishment and remain in there for now.

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Post by Bfcboyo » Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:17 pm

If anybody knows the clown in row S seat 127 of the cricket field stand please say hi from me when the football resumes in 2021.

And he continued his direct debit and is now in tatty clothes because he didn't listen to people with more sense than money.

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by Barry_Chuckle » Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:32 pm

Bfcboyo wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:17 pm
If anybody knows the clown in row S seat 127 of the cricket field stand please say hi from me when the football resumes in 2021.

And he continued his direct debit and is now in tatty clothes because he didn't listen to people with more sense than money.
You're embarrassing yourself now :oops:
You are correct on one thing though, I have continued my D/Debit, and it appears that I'll be able to utilise the seat when footy returns seen as my ban never materialised. :lol:

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Post by Bfcboyo » Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:38 pm

Barry_Chuckle wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:32 pm
You're embarrassing yourself now :oops:
You are correct on one thing though, I have continued my D/Debit, and it appears that I'll be able to utilise the seat when footy returns seen as my ban never materialised. :lol:
Your right I'm absolutely red with embarrassment. I wanted a salmon and got a carp. I'll let you go now I hope you had a good time being weighed.

UTC

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by Zlatan » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:01 pm

Bfcboyo wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:15 pm
If I knew your seat number I'd have you banned.
S127 in CF stand, please do the decent thing and escort me out in person :cry:
[/quote]

Oh your one of those are you. Revelling in the good old days in the CFS . I will let you continue your punishment and remain in there for now.
[/quote]
Chicken...??? You yellow boyo...???

:D

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Re: ST Renewals - General Concensus?

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:16 pm

Very hard to see how the players can still be paid millions while fans and broadcasters want their money back.

It isn’t normal employment, it may be legally but if people start dying in their thousands and getting unemployed in their millions it will feel different to see all those Bentleys continue to cruise into the car park.

Relevance to season tickets? It feels like this whole business model is hanging on a thread and I for one struggle to see business as usual in 2020/21. It feels like something major will change, once the virus has passed, the whole mood will be different. I’m very wary of committing that much dosh in the meantime. None of us may have much left by then.

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