When will this madness end ?

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When will this madness end ?

Post by SmudgetheClaret » Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:48 am

In all my days I've never known a subject have so many different opinions for example - "It's a fake virus" " This is a war" " It was released by China" " America is responsible" etc etc etc, But what I would really like to know is when do people think the restrictions to our everyday lives will end if at all ?

A, A couple of weeks.
B, About a month.
C, 6 weeks tops.
D, It's as Boris says 12 weeks should sort it.
E, Social distancing needs to last a year so a year.
F, It all depends on if we do as we are instructed.
G,The rumoured 18 months.
H,Sorry guys this is your new life with further bans to come 1984/NWO.

I could say just for a bit of fun but I'm not seeing much smiling lately (apart from the memes which are hilarious).

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Re: When will this madness end ?

Post by box_of_frogs » Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:54 am

Somewhere between C and D.

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Re: When will this madness end ?

Post by taio » Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:56 am

Between D and E and dependent on F.

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Re: When will this madness end ?

Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:59 am

I reckon it will be 6 months (if everyone adheres to what guidelines state) and 12 months for things to return to anywhere resembling normality

It's just a gut feeling I have
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Re: When will this madness end ?

Post by mikeS » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:00 am

The strict lockdown implemented in China seems to have worked according to the WHO’s data. The number of tests carried out in some other South Asian countries also seems to have detected cases early and that’s has helped.
There’s no guarantee that it won’t return anywhere until a tested and working vaccine has been developed.

The WHO is a good place for regular updates and tracking where the cases are, this is just one view from a few days ago.
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Re: When will this madness end ?

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:00 am

F is going to be the key.

The fact that people are sodding off on to their holiday destinations within the UK and potentially taking the virus with them just shows how stupid a large chunk of the population are.
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Re: When will this madness end ?

Post by evensteadiereddie » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:03 am

I don't know, you'd have thought you'd have been pretty safe walking out on the hills yesterday, wouldn't you ? :lol:



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-51994504
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Re: When will this madness end ?

Post by Enty1974 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:04 am

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Re: When will this madness end ?

Post by paulatky » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:05 am

18+ months
The only exit strategy from lockdown is a vaccine or herd immunity.
Is the world in 18 months something you will want to be part of

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Re: When will this madness end ?

Post by evensteadiereddie » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:06 am

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Re: When will this madness end ?

Post by Caballo » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:09 am

paulatky wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:05 am
18+ months
The only exit strategy from lockdown is a vaccine or herd immunity.
Is the world in 18 months something you will want to be part of

Christ, I bet you're fun to be quarantined with!
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Re: When will this madness end ?

Post by Suratclaret » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:17 am

My feeling is that most of this year can be written off unless there is some scientific breakthrough the like of which has never been seen before. The virus now seems to be taking off here in Thailand where it seems the majority of people arn't taking it anywhere near as seriously as they should. Health provision to cope with this virus is woefully short here and it seems to be up to each provincial governor( province = county) to decide how drastic the action should be.

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Re: When will this madness end ?

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:21 am

evensteadiereddie wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:06 am
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That's Numberwang!
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Re: When will this madness end ?

Post by paulatky » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:22 am

Caballo wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:09 am
Christ, I bet you're fun to be quarantined with!
I have always been a realist.

Not once this season did I think we would be relegated not even after Villa.

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Re: When will this madness end ?

Post by evensteadiereddie » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:23 am

There's no need to be like that, Family !

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Re: When will this madness end ?

Post by gandhisflipflop » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:24 am

Hopefully very very soon.

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Re: When will this madness end ?

Post by tim_noone » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:27 am

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:24 am
Hopefully very very soon.
Not when people of burnley are still panic buying and forming lengthy queues at Tescos apparently this morning? :roll:

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Re: When will this madness end ?

Post by gandhisflipflop » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:30 am

tim_noone wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:27 am
Not when people of burnley are still panic buying and forming lengthy queues at Tescos apparently this morning? :roll:
It's crazy. I'm going to have to go to Tesco this morning, it will be my 3rd attempt this week to get some milk. Family have offered some of theirs but why should they have to give up theirs? I'm not desperate it's annoying more than anything.

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Re: When will this madness end ?

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:46 am

I'm convinced some people want their predictions to be correct, even if it means it being a lot longer than most people expect. There's been far too many, "I said all this 2 weeks ago" - "nobody listened when I said"... nobody gives a **** about whether your prediction was correct.
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Post by pushpinpussy » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:48 am

It will end a lot sooner if the Chinese government provide a more honest account of why this all unfolded.
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Re: When will this madness end ?

Post by CombatClaret » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:52 am

paulatky wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:05 am
18+ months
The only exit strategy from lockdown is a vaccine or herd immunity.
Is the world in 18 months something you will want to be part of
This.
As widespread testing becomes available large numbers of the undiagnosed who have had it & recovered will be able to be return to some kind of normality.
But a vaccine is the real exit strategy for this all to be fully resolved.
The social distancing measures are designed to prolong this so the Heath service is not swamped.
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Re: When will this madness end ?

Post by paulatky » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:53 am

FactualFrank wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:46 am
I'm convinced some people want their predictions to be correct, even if it means it being a lot longer than most people expect. There's been far too many, "I said all this 2 weeks ago" - "nobody listened when I said"... nobody gives a **** about whether your prediction was correct.
Why do you keep posting about it then.

What you mean is you dont like what might . None of us do as there is very little we can do about it,but being in denial is not an option.

Hope for the best but plan for the worst
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Re: When will this madness end ?

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:55 am

paulatky wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:53 am
Why do you keep posting about it then.

What you mean is you dont like what might . None of us do as there is very little we can do about it,but being in denial is not an option.

Hope for the best but plan for the worst
I post about it because I'm sure it's annoying most of us. This really isn't the time for a few posters to be congratulating themselves with a big "You should have listened to me, I was right - look at me". We don't care. It's annoying. I ask all those posters to stop doing it.
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Re: When will this madness end ?

Post by tim_noone » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:02 am

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:30 am
It's crazy. I'm going to have to go to Tesco this morning, it will be my 3rd attempt this week to get some milk. Family have offered some of theirs but why should they have to give up theirs? I'm not desperate it's annoying more than anything.
I bought some coffee mate the other week as milk from my supplier goes off pretty quick 4 some reason....it was a big tub £3.99. Glad I bought it now. :D

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Re: When will this madness end ?

Post by fatboy47 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:06 am

C

I remember stuff like the Foot and Mouth outbreak where hysterical numptys were squealing like stuck pigs claiming that the countryside could be clsed to the public for up to 5 years. A few short months later it was pretty much done and dusted.The current shock and awe campaign is aimed at achieving prompt compliance.
This tory government, rightly, will be getting the show back on the road asap.

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Re: When will this madness end ?

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:06 am

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:30 am
It's crazy. I'm going to have to go to Tesco this morning, it will be my 3rd attempt this week to get some milk. Family have offered some of theirs but why should they have to give up theirs? I'm not desperate it's annoying more than anything.
I'm finding the local shops have milk, but the larger supermarkets like Tesco, don't.

If you have any greengrocers, small off-licenses, small markets, try them first.
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Re: When will this madness end ?

Post by conyoviejo » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:14 am

The next steps to come?
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Re: When will this madness end ?

Post by paulatky » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:29 am

FactualFrank wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:55 am
I post about it because I'm sure it's annoying most of us. This really isn't the time for a few posters to be congratulating themselves with a big "You should have listened to me, I was right - look at me". We don't care. It's annoying. I ask all those posters to stop doing it.
Its you who keeps bringing it up for god’s sake

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Re: When will this madness end ?

Post by jrgbfc » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:36 am

FactualFrank wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:06 am
I'm finding the local shops have milk, but the larger supermarkets like Tesco, don't.

If you have any greengrocers, small off-licenses, small markets, try them first.
Yeah, i went into Colne yesterday and got pretty much everything I needed. Two big advantages of supporting my smaller, local shops and avoided the selfish, brain dead zombies who are running around supermarkets stripping the shelves bare.
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Post by tim_noone » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:42 am

FactualFrank wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:55 am
I post about it because I'm sure it's annoying most of us. This really isn't the time for a few posters to be congratulating themselves with a big "You should have listened to me, I was right - look at me". We don't care. It's annoying. I ask all those posters to stop doing it.
Take it how it's meant frank.... but you were right about wood.....remember.

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Re: When will this madness end ?

Post by tim_noone » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:44 am

evensteadiereddie wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:03 am
I don't know, you'd have thought you'd have been pretty safe walking out on the hills yesterday, wouldn't you ? :lol:



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-51994504
Looks like they're heading for the hills Eddie....

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Re: When will this madness end ?

Post by Top Claret » Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:59 am

Just got back from my local Sunday farmers market. I spent just under £20 wouldn't normally bother,
I find them expensive, but they need our support and I am one of the fortunate ones.

We shall start using our local grocers

Parked on the main road 50 yards away was a speed camera van..disgraceful that these parasites should be out picking our pockets
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Re: When will this madness end ?

Post by mdd2 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:02 pm

At the moment the how long will it last question can only be answered by that stock no idea "how long is a piece of string'

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Post by thatdberight » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:04 pm

Top Claret wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:59 am

Parked on the main road 50 yards away was a speed camera van..disgraceful that these parasites should be out picking our pockets
Because coronavirus means all other laws should be shelved.

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Post by evensteadiereddie » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:05 pm

tim_noone wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:44 am
Looks like they're heading for the hills Eddie....


"We'll keep a welcome in the hillside...."


"No, we won't, **** off home. Find your own fresh air !" :lol:

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Post by Top Claret » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:07 pm

thatdberight wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:04 pm
Because coronavirus means all other laws should be shelved.
Didn't say that at all. We have road side speed cameras to deal with speeding drivers, why we need guys out in vans on a Sunday morning is ridiculous in these hard financial times
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Post by paulatky » Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:41 pm

mdd2 wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:02 pm
At the moment the how long will it last question can only be answered by that stock no idea "how long is a piece of string'
Or you could look at the facts and make an educated guess.

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Post by UnderSeige » Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:06 pm

CombatClaret Wrote: As widespread testing becomes available large numbers of the undiagnosed who have had it & recovered will be able to be return to some kind of normality.
But a vaccine is the real exit strategy for this all to be fully resolved.
I think that is the key. If a successful vaccine can be produced and rolled out, we can get back to some sort of normality fairly quickly. This may take a year or perhaps a little longer.

In the meantime, the government are working on increased testing. Apparently there is an antibody test ( test to find out if people have already had it). On one of Chris Martenson's daily updates he was saying that 'La Republica' had reported on a antibody test of 3000 random Italians who thought that they had not had the virus. The result was that between 50% and 75% had already had it without showing any symptoms.

Once the antibody test can start to be rolled out, those who test positive can then be released back into society without restriction. Gradually people can get back to work. Eventually, a vaccine will be available.

I think that by this time next year the lights will start to come on again.

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Post by dsr » Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:32 pm

conyoviejo wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:14 am
The next steps to come?
The one about "no more than one person in a car at any time" seems ridiculously harsh. If I take my mother (as I did yesterday) for a ride in the country, so the only times we are out of doors is the time spent crossing the pavement from the front door to the car, how is that harmful to anyone - us or anyone else? We didn't even open the window, let alone get out of the car!

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Post by dsr » Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:35 pm

paulatky wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:05 am
18+ months
The only exit strategy from lockdown is a vaccine or herd immunity.
Is the world in 18 months something you will want to be part of
I thnik you are having to adjust your predictions downwards just so you can remain king of the pessimists. What are you expecting the world to be like now? I mean, if in 18 months we are all 20% poorer and have far rewer people over 80 years old, we aren't talking "back to the stone age", we're talking "back to the 1970's". And theseventies, with all their problems, were never that bad.

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Post by thatdberight » Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:41 pm

People forget we are doing this by choice. Plan B = 6 - 8 weeks of hell, hundreds of thousands dead and off we go again. If it becomes unmanageable, that plan could be forced on us.

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Post by tim_noone » Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:48 pm

The time to be really Worried is if the Birds start dropping from the trees.

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Post by FactualFrank » Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:50 pm

UnderSeige wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:06 pm
In the meantime, the government are working on increased testing. Apparently there is an antibody test ( test to find out if people have already had it). On one of Chris Martenson's daily updates he was saying that 'La Republica' had reported on a antibody test of 3000 random Italians who thought that they had not had the virus. The result was that between 50% and 75% had already had it without showing any symptoms.
Blimey that's a lot!

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Post by dushanbe » Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:52 pm

In these situations governments tend to give the worst case scenario. If that comes to pass, they've been prophetic, if not, then the measures have mitigated things, they can't be wrong either way.

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Post by FCBurnley » Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:52 pm

No normality until a vaccine is available. Here in America they are trying aiming for one within 6 months but that is unlikely. Normality will never return unless the public realize the seriousness of the current situation and respond accordingly. Just read Charlie Austin tested positive and thinks he contracted it at Cheltenham Festival. Can’t believe a pro sportsman would take that risk. Irresponsible in my opinion

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Post by bodge » Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:54 pm

Hope your mate in Whalley is recovering dushanbe.

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Post by dushanbe » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:02 pm

bodge wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:54 pm
Hope your mate in Whalley is recovering dushanbe.
Latest is he has a secondary infection, but is on the mend.
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Post by kentonclaret » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:02 pm

The Times football correspondent Henry Winter said this morning that football in this country would not start again until October at the earliest. Talk of a resumption in June/July just wishful thinking.

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Post by Chester Perry » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:12 pm

kentonclaret wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:02 pm
The Times football correspondent Henry Winter said this morning that football in this country would not start again until October at the earliest. Talk of a resumption in June/July just wishful thinking.
It is here for those who missed it
https://twitter.com/SundaySupp/status/1 ... 9066288128

at the earliest would be my view a quite possibly this time next year
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Re: When will this madness end ?

Post by Burnley1989 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:36 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:05 pm
"We'll keep a welcome in the hillside...."


"No, we won't, **** off home. Find your own fresh air !" :lol:
A sign on your way in to Barley, tickled me after the topic on here last year, it said something along the lines of

“Non Locals, please go home”
“Stop the Spread”

There was another that was just plain rude, can’t remember exactly what it said. I wondered if it was the same Barley is shut poster off here

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