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Mega rich

Post by claretyke » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:41 pm

Various sport people making money offers to support hospitals / nursing staff
Just wondering when our mega rich premier football stars will start helping ?

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Re: Mega rich

Post by beddie » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:45 pm

Some maybe without the publicity. Besides Giggs and Neville isn't Zaha at Palace offering NHS working staff accommodation at his 50 properties around London.

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Re: Mega rich

Post by IanMcL » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:46 pm

They have.

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Re: Mega rich

Post by Tricky Trevor » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:49 pm

Lewandowski has given €1m to the fight.

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Re: Mega rich

Post by houseboy » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:59 pm

Guardiola has given a million euros apparently. Abroad Messi has donated similar to Argentina and Barcelona. Ronaldo and Roger Federer same to various. A lot of people may say they can easily afford it but they don’t have to...they could sit it out in their mansions but they giving and giving a lot. Respect.

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Re: Mega rich

Post by Jakubclaret » Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:03 pm

claretyke wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:41 pm
Various sport people making money offers to support hospitals / nursing staff
Just wondering when our mega rich premier football stars will start helping ?
If everybody who could afford a million donated a few millions each, so millionaires & billionaires it’d apply to, you’d have this crisis sewn up In no time.

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Re: Mega rich

Post by mdd2 » Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:09 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:03 pm
If everybody who could afford a million donated a few millions each, so millionaires & billionaires it’d apply to, you’d have this crisis sewn up In no time.
Not whilst you have the population density we have. That should really read dense population who do not self isolate and stay home, do not adhere to the 2 metre rule, or social distancing and go around in groups, in reality taking the p**s.

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Re: Mega rich

Post by Jakubclaret » Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:15 pm

mdd2 wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:09 pm
Not whilst you have the population density we have. That should really read dense population who do not self isolate and stay home, do not adhere to the 2 metre rule, or social distancing and go around in groups, in reality taking the p**s.
I’m talking globally, I’m talking about throwing copious amounts of money at scientists to work 24/7, every available scientist working & the research budget into every drug possible no money no obstacle, I should have clarified it wasn’t just the UK I meant, I’m talking about rinsing bill gates & suchlike.

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Re: Mega rich

Post by Bosscat » Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:23 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:15 pm
I’m talking globally, I’m talking about throwing copious amounts of money at scientists to work 24/7, every available scientist working & the research budget into every drug possible no money no obstacle, I should have clarified it wasn’t just the UK I meant, I’m talking about rinsing bill gates & suchlike.
Perhaps "Bill Gates and Suchlike" are already actively looking for a cure and will wait until the "suchlike" who want to "rinse" them are wiped out ;)
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Re: Mega rich

Post by mdd2 » Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:25 pm

They have moved pretty quickly as it is. I don't think money is constraining efforts to find a vaccine or novel treatments.I posted elsewhere on the board but in less than 3 months they have isolated a virus, mapped its structure, developed a method to diagnose infection within a few hours (we still do not know how good it is ie sensitivity and specificity-percentage of false negatives and false positives) and pretty soon to have a test which shows those who have had infection and have antibodies. And looking at the mutations they can tell in some instances where a traveller picked up their infection.That is pretty damn good in my mind.
If they get a vaccine by the end of the year then that would be incredible.
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Re: Mega rich

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:18 pm

Listening to a chat about this on the radio and they said that it's always the celebrities/sports stars who are expected to dip into their pockets in times of need, it's never the bankers people turn too...

Wonder why the bankers can get away without having to do the same?

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Re: Mega rich

Post by Jakubclaret » Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:19 pm

mdd2 wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:25 pm
They have moved pretty quickly as it is. I don't think money is constraining efforts to find a vaccine or novel treatments.I posted elsewhere on the board but in less than 3 months they have isolated a virus, mapped its structure, developed a method to diagnose infection within a few hours (we still do not know how good it is ie sensitivity and specificity-percentage of false negatives and false positives) and pretty soon to have a test which shows those who have had infection and have antibodies. And looking at the mutations they can tell in some instances where a traveller picked up their infection.That is pretty damn good in my mind.
If they get a vaccine by the end of the year then that would be incredible.
I agree generally with the post, in relation to the costs I wasn't just talking about getting the vaccine over the line which in itself will save lives longterm, I was talking about the costs now in relation to the NHS, it's obvious to notice that there's shortages of everything in terms of nurses & PPE & beds eventually, hence recruiting the volunteers which is being discussed now on a seperate thread, more money at this present time would enable more kit, more nurses, more beds, a better standard for the people stricken with the virus, eventually a lack of money will play a part with shortages it's just a question of when, the longer it continues the need will intensify.

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Re: Mega rich

Post by chipbutty » Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:37 pm

Ben Mee got the players to have a whip round last week for the BFC Community Kitchen Foodbank. I don`t know how much it raised, but the club matched it.

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Re: Mega rich

Post by dsr » Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:45 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:15 pm
I’m talking globally, I’m talking about throwing copious amounts of money at scientists to work 24/7, every available scientist working & the research budget into every drug possible no money no obstacle, I should have clarified it wasn’t just the UK I meant, I’m talking about rinsing bill gates & suchlike.
I think you overestimate just how much money Bill Gates has. If the US government took every penny he has and started spending it at midnight tonight, they would run out of cash at 8 pm tomorrow.

How much extra benefit would it be if, say, weathermen started work on coronavirus cures? I suspect that most of the available and qualified scientists are already working on coronavirus

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Re: Mega rich

Post by dsr » Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:48 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:19 pm
I agree generally with the post, in relation to the costs I wasn't just talking about getting the vaccine over the line which in itself will save lives longterm, I was talking about the costs now in relation to the NHS, it's obvious to notice that there's shortages of everything in terms of nurses & PPE & beds eventually, hence recruiting the volunteers which is being discussed now on a seperate thread, more money at this present time would enable more kit, more nurses, more beds, a better standard for the people stricken with the virus, eventually a lack of money will play a part with shortages it's just a question of when, the longer it continues the need will intensify.
Where are these nurses coming from? You can't turn someone into a nurse just by paying them. Training takes time as well as money. There's no need to obsess about money - the government is throwing vast amounts at it. I suppose that PPE shortages could be addressed by going to the poorer nations of the world and offering them so much money that they might deprive their own nurses of PPE so that ours could have it, but is that really the aim?

If there is a shortage of PPE, or beds, or ventilators, or qualified nurses, it's because the people and equipment aren't there. Money isn't the bigger problem here.

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Re: Mega rich

Post by Chester Perry » Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:53 pm

dsr wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:45 pm
I think you overestimate just how much money Bill Gates has. If the US government took every penny he has and started spending it at midnight tonight, they would run out of cash at 8 pm tomorrow.

How much extra benefit would it be if, say, weathermen started work on coronavirus cures? I suspect that most of the available and qualified scientists are already working on coronavirus
There is also the point that Gates has committed about 90% of his wealth to his foundation - it is the largest/richest of it's kind and has been in operation for 20 years - he also persuaded Warren Buffet to add his wealth to it as well

https://www.gatesfoundation.org/

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Re: Mega rich

Post by Chester Perry » Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:52 pm

Another point about Bill Gates - he told the world to prepare for a pandemic 5 years ago - the world did not listen

https://www.ted.com/talks/bill_gates_th ... anguage=en
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Re: Mega rich

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:56 pm

claretyke wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:41 pm
Various sport people making money offers to support hospitals / nursing staff
Just wondering when our mega rich premier football stars will start helping ?
Before you started this thread.
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Re: Mega rich

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:56 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:52 pm
Another point about Bill Gates - he told the world to prepare for a pandemic 2 years ago - the world did not listen

https://www.ted.com/talks/bill_gates_th ... anguage=en
Wasn’t that from 2015?

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Re: Mega rich

Post by Chester Perry » Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:04 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:56 pm
Wasn’t that from 2015?
yeah I changed that - he has spoken again in the last few days

https://www.ted.com/talks/bill_gates_ho ... 9_pandemic

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Re: Mega rich

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:11 pm

Leeds players have all taken a pay cut so the club don't have to lay people off

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Re: Mega rich

Post by Dyched » Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:27 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:04 pm
yeah I changed that - he has spoken again in the last few days

https://www.ted.com/talks/bill_gates_ho ... 9_pandemic

Funny story about Bill. His family went to dinner and his daughter gave a $500 tip. Bill have $5 and was laughed at by the waitress. “You’re the richest man in the world and you gave $5, your daughter gave $500”. Well yes he replied, “I’m the son of a farmer, she’s the daughter of the worlds richest man”.

Somert like that anyway.

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Re: Mega rich

Post by tarkys_ears » Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:47 pm

beddie wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:45 pm
Some maybe without the publicity. Besides Giggs and Neville isn't Zaha at Palace offering NHS working staff accommodation at his 50 properties around London.
Yeah... right.

And I suppose they're all PAYE employees too.

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