Donald Trump

[ksrclaret]

Well now you come to mention it

This thread is about John so may I suggest you save your racism for uptherednecks?

[Uwe Noble]

Why not use his full name then? Rather than his middle name and surname?

No need to answer that by the way, we know the answer.

Yeah, you know sweet f.a. You've no arguments, just smear, call people racist or a bigot. Stop the virtue signalling and make a case or go back to your basement.

[ksrclaret]

Yeah, you know sweet f.a. You've no arguments, just smear, call people racist or a bigot. Stop the virtue signalling and make a case or go back to your basement.

Hi Uwe. How's it going mate? You posted on any other thread yet?

[grapidianclaret]

Yeah, you know sweet f.a. You've no arguments, just smear, call people racist or a bigot. Stop the virtue signalling and make a case or go back to your basement.

Look out. FCs big bwother is about

[grapidianclaret]

Yeah, you know sweet f.a. You've no arguments, just smear, call people racist or a bigot. Stop the virtue signalling and make a case or go back to your basement.

And it's a cellar!

[Rileybobs]

Dont know why it upsets you so much. I am proud of my name and I am sure Hussein is proud of his

You've embarrassed yourself, again.

I actually hate cowardly racism more than someone coming out and just saying how they feel. You haven't got the guts to say what you think, so you use snide little methods like calling Obama by his middle name and then hiding behind totally ridiculous excuses. You're basically a coward.

[grapidianclaret]

You've embarrassed yourself, again.

I actually hate cowardly racism more than someone coming out and just saying how they feel. You haven't got the guts to say what you think, so you use snide little methods like calling Obama by his middle name and then hiding behind totally ridiculous excuses. You're basically a coward.

Jesus Rileybobs, you better prepare for a real nasty emoji storm to come your way now.
And possibly his big bwother too.

[Devils_Advocate]

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1258 ... 56577.html

[FCBurnley]

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1258 ... 56577.html

Huffington Post and Playboy ?

[Taffy on the wing]

Huffington Post and Playboy ?

Both are more reputable than Fox News!......which is obviously where you get all your 'ideas' from.

[Erasmus]

It rather answers the question I asked myself as to why anyone could support Trump when he is so self-evidently a worthless human being and a bumbling incompetent to boot. What he displays are clear racist tendencies, sympathy for the far right, and a dislike of immigrants. Unfortunately, there are some who will back anyone who adopts such positions. Fortunately, they are a small minority of Burnley supporters, most of whom appear to be decent, intelligent folk.

[kentonclaret]

CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC to be screened this coming Thursday on PBS America (Freeview 91 and Sky 174) gives a wonderful insight into Washington DC's response compared to that of the scientific community in Washington State. Who can forget Donald Trump's early assessment of the pandemic "It's one person coming in from China".

[FCBurnley]

Latest deaths per million

Belgium 740
Spain 566
Italy 500
UK 460
France 402
Sweden 319
Holland 316
Ireland 289
USA 238

[Devils_Advocate]

Latest deaths per million

Belgium 740
Spain 566
Italy 500
UK 460
France 402
Sweden 319
Holland 316
Ireland 289
USA 238
China 3

Can you please stop with this pro China propaganda

[FCBurnley]

Just deleted China as per your request. USA stats look even better now. Thanks for your help

[Devils_Advocate]

Just deleted China as per your request. USA stats look even better now. Thanks for your help

Good work, didn't want you getting a lynching down your local Klan group for a stupid cock up like above

[FCBurnley]

Yea.Lots of new members wearing masks these days

[tiger76]

According to the fountain of knowledge Donald J Trump,the coronavirus will “go away without a vaccine”

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/global-report ... 1499.html

[bfcjg]

How can the most powerful nation on earth be run by him ?

[FCBurnley]

He was less corrupt than his opponent and had more money. It’s how America works. If you lived here you would not need to ask the question

Oh and it’s far from being the greatest nation on earth. That’s all PR

[KateR]

he said powerful not greatest but both are very subjective in how you wish to think of either and what shapes your thinking in those terms.

[FCBurnley]

Very fragile in my opinion

[KateR]

whatever

[Uwe Noble]

Good work, didn't want you getting a lynching down your local Klan group for a stupid cock up like above

Ooh look, another "wacist" argument. Obviously can't argue the point.

[tiger76]

I know it's probably pointless,but if anybody wants to have an intelligent discussion on this thread a couple of news articles to consider.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52604671

Obama's spot on in his description,it's been a shambles from the outset.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52602580

[FCBurnley]

I know it's probably pointless,but if anybody wants to have an intelligent discussion on this thread a couple of news articles to consider.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52604671

Obama's spot on in his description,it's been a shambles from the outset.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52602580

So BHO ( it’s racist to say his actual name) thinks Trumps handling of the pandemic has been a Chaotic Disaster ? If that is correct then what does it say about the Countries with far higher deaths per million which includes UK among many others ? For reference I posted the numbers yesterday.

[Devils_Advocate]

So BHO ( it’s racist to say his actual name) thinks Trumps handling of the pandemic has been a Chaotic Disaster ? If that is correct then what does it say about the Countries with far higher deaths per million which includes UK among many others ? For reference I posted the numbers yesterday.

I think you have a lack of understanding around how this virus spreads, at what rate and how it can be initially controlled. If you understand this then you will understand why at this stage deaths per capita is a really poor method to measure success and failure

If we cannot control the virus and we get 2nd, 3rd, 4th waves of this virus then the death per capita stat will become much more relevant but by that time I think the stats will paint a very different picture

[Swizzlestick]

I think it’s unarguable that our approach has been similarly chaotic.

His name is Barack Obama. Or Obama if you like. The reason you don’t call Trump ‘Donald John Trump’ but you’re highlighting Obama’s middle name is because you’re a racist.

[FCBurnley]

I think you have a lack of understanding around how this virus spreads, at what rate and how it can be initially controlled. If you understand this then you will understand why at this stage deaths per capita is a really poor method to measure success and failure

If we cannot control the virus and we get 2nd, 3rd, 4th waves of this virus then the death per capita stat will become much more relevant but by that time I think the stats will paint a very different picture

I totally understand how the virus spreads and how quickly things can change. At the moment the best yardstick we have is deaths per million. I will publish my list on a regular basis so we will be able to see if your prediction becomes a reality

[TVC15]

It’s the racists attempt to be clever - which like most racists he’s not too good at.

[Devils_Advocate]

I totally understand how the virus spreads and how quickly things can change. At the moment the best yardstick we have is deaths per million. I will publish my list on a regular basis so we will be able to see if your prediction becomes a reality

I haven't made a prediction as I have no idea at this stage if we will or will not get follow up waves of virus outbreaks.

I dont think any direct comparison of numbers be it total deaths or deaths per capita is any good as there are so many factors and nuances involved.

My view is you should judge each country individually on their own decisions and actions whilst obviously understand the wider context of what is going on and what info and learnings were available.

If you just think death per capita is a good yardstick let alone the best then no you dont really understand this virus, how its spreads and how that translates into numbers

[FCBurnley]

I think it’s unarguable that our approach has been similarly chaotic.

His name is Barack Obama. Or Obama if you like. The reason you don’t call Trump ‘Donald John Trump’ but you’re highlighting Obama’s middle name is because you’re a racist.

Well whatever you call him has suddenly come out of his 3 year isolation and seems very worried about the newly released statements and emails. I wonder why. His Covid comments are purely a political deflection tactic.

[ksrclaret]

Well whatever you call him has suddenly come out of his 3 year isolation and seems very worried about the newly released statements and emails. I wonder why. His Covid comments are purely a political deflection tactic.

Probably because we're in the middle of a pandemic that his country are making a dogs breakfast of handling. Or to put it in simpler language if you're as thick as the current incumbent, there is a nasty 'germ' doing the rounds.

John Trump needs all the advice he can get at the moment since his task force have gone down the virus. You and he should be grateful for the much needed interjection.

[FCBurnley]

I haven't made a prediction as I have no idea at this stage if we will or will not get follow up waves of virus outbreaks.

I dont think any direct comparison of numbers be it total deaths or deaths per capita is any good as there are so many factors and nuances involved.

My view is you should judge each country individually on their own decisions and actions whilst obviously understand the wider context of what is going on and what info and learnings were available.

If you just think death per capita is a good yardstick let alone the best then no you dont really understand this virus, how its spreads and how that translates into numbers

Other than by per capita how do you suggest we compare our respective countries handling
of the current situation

[FCBurnley]

Probably because we're in the middle of a pandemic that his country are making a dogs breakfast of handling. Or to put it in simpler language if you're as thick as the current incumbent, there is a nasty 'germ' doing the rounds.

John Trump needs all the advice he can get at the moment since his task force have gone down the virus. You and he should be grateful for the much needed interjection.

John Trump has a nice ring to it. Much better than the usual obscene names he gets called on here

[Devils_Advocate]

Other than by per capita how do you suggest we compare our respective countries handling
of the current situation

I dont think you can do a simple side by side comparison of country's. As per my previous post I think country's should be looked at and judged individually

You can probably break different areas down and compare country's but this would need to take into account so many natural and uncontrollable variances and have full access to data that is either not available or not universally verified (would you trust a comparison with China based on the data they are sharing) that at our level of discussion it is just pointless and impossible

Im sure lots of data scientists are working hard in the background but it will be sometime if ever before we are in a position to do complete comparisons

[FCBurnley]

I dont think you can do a simple side by side comparison of country's. As per my previous post I think country's should be looked at and judged individually

You can probably break different areas down and compare country's but this would need to take into account so many natural and uncontrollable variances and have full access to data that is either not available or not universally verified (would you trust a comparison with China based on the data they are sharing) that at our level of discussion it is just pointless and impossible

Im sure lots of data scientists are working hard in the background but it will be sometime if ever before we are in a position to do complete comparisons

Got it. I only look at the PL table when we are doing well

[Devils_Advocate]

Got it. I only look at the PL table when we are doing well

or equally I only choose the table we appear to be doing well in

My view on this has been consistent and I haven't attacked Trump and the US on their total death rates. It is you that is very selective with the news and info you trust and believe in so much that you only see something as credible if it reaffirms your bias

This is why you lose all the arguments (excluding inside your own head) and look foolish because you approach every discussion with a closed mind and an agenda not based on real facts and evidence

[FCBurnley]

Your reply has confirmed my suspicions.

[Uwe Noble]

I think you have a lack of understanding around how this virus spreads, at what rate and how it can be initially controlled. If you understand this then you will understand why at this stage deaths per capita is a really poor method to measure success and failure

If we cannot control the virus and we get 2nd, 3rd, 4th waves of this virus then the death per capita stat will become much more relevant but by that time I think the stats will paint a very different picture

All you're essentially arguing us that we can't yet judge, probably until we're out of this mess. So don't!

[Uwe Noble]

or equally I only choose the table we appear to be doing well in

My view on this has been consistent and I haven't attacked Trump and the US on their total death rates. It is you that is very selective with the news and info you trust and believe in so much that you only see something as credible if it reaffirms your bias

This is why you lose all the arguments (excluding inside your own head) and look foolish because you approach every discussion with a closed mind and an agenda not based on real facts and evidence

I think he's the only one on here who has an open mind (apart from me!). All you offer is " wacist" and emotive statements.

[FCBurnley]

I think he's the only one on here who has an open mind (apart from me!). All you offer is " wacist" and emotive statements.

To be fair he is about the only one who hasn’t played the racist card (yet)

[Devils_Advocate]

All you're essentially arguing us that we can't yet judge, probably until we're out of this mess. So don't!

I'll try my best to make this simple enough for you

President suggests at national televised briefing the injecting disinfectant into their body might be a solution to the Covid Virus - We do not need to wait until we are out of this mess to judge that this was terrible leadership

US has highest death toll for Covid Virus - We are not in a position to judge that this is a result of bad leadership

[Uwe Noble]

John Trump needs all the advice he can get at the moment since his task force have gone down the virus. You and he should be grateful for the much needed interjection.

Somebody's been on the Sherry!

[ksrclaret]

Somebody's been on the Sherry!

Hi Uwe. How's it going mate. You posted on any other thread yet?

[Uwe Noble]

I'll try my best to make this simple enough for you

President suggests at national televised briefing the injecting disinfectant into their body might be a solution to the Covid Virus - We do not need to wait until we are out of this mess to judge that this was terrible leadership

US has highest death toll for Covid Virus - We are not in a position to judge that this is a result of bad leadership

You might think that's very simple. It's as clear as mud.

[Devils_Advocate]

You might think that's very simple. It's as clear as mud.

Sorry but I tried my best

[Uwe Noble]

John Trump needs all the advice he can get at the moment since his task force have gone down the virus.
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So if you can use Trump's middle name then why can't we use Obama's?

[Uwe Noble]

To be fair he is about the only one who hasn’t played the racist card (yet)

I don't think so! See my earlier post at 9:57am. As soon as they start losing an argument they revert to their wacist smear. They gave n't got anything else. Magnanimity is wasted on them.

[ksrclaret]

John Trump needs all the advice he can get at the moment since his task force have gone down the virus.

So if you can use Trump's middle name then why can't we use Obama's?
[/quote]

Whoooooosh.

Anyway, how's it going mate. You posted on any other thread yet?