Donald Trump

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:19 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:17 pm
All well and good but what about “OBAMAGATE”?

I kid you not, I was out the other day and someone had paid for a huge billboard that simply said "obamagate"

Imagine spending your money on that

Gordaleman · Post by **Gordaleman** » Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:22 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:17 pm
All well and good but what about “OBAMAGATE”?

FAKE NEWS.

So what exact crime is Trump accusing Obama of committing?

The president himself does not seem to know. “‘Obamagate’,” he ruminated in the White House rose garden on Monday. “It’s been going on for a long time. It’s been going on from before I even got elected. And it’s a disgrace that it happened.”

Asked by a Washington Post reporter for the second time to name Obama’s exact offence, Trump replied cryptically: “You know what the crime is. The crime is very obvious to everybody. All you have to do is read the newspapers, except yours.”

Clear as mud, then.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:36 pm

There were a couple on here who got really excited by it.
Surely they know what the big idiot is on about?

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:42 pm

can't wait until he sees what is happening outside Trump Towers in New York

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:43 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:36 pm
There were a couple on here who got really excited by it.
Surely they know what the big idiot is on about?

they don't worry about facts, the just say whatever he or Fox news says

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:50 pm

Chump remakns the most unbalanced person, ever to lead a nation. I include Herr H in that list.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:26 am

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Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:05 am

I'll let you all laugh at the latest news when you wake up regarding Stone

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:05 am

When Trump can no longer hide behind being President, the FBI will have a field day on him. He’ll be in prison within 18 months.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:32 am

claptrappers_union wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:05 am
When Trump can no longer hide behind being President, the FBI will have a field day on him. He’ll be in prison within 18 months.

Hope your right.
But sadly, even after the years he's spent embarrassing their Presidential Office, can't see the Yanks wanting to make themselves 'look bad' so publicly.
Whoever follows this bumwipe is going to have a lot of cleaning up to do, at home and abroad.
He's already turned America into some comedy/horror soap opera.
And I just hope it doesn't get worse than that before they rid him. He's not finished his sociopathic reign just yet.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:35 am

I just hope that after all the **** he has given the FBI that they are building a massive case against him

AndrewJB · Post by **AndrewJB** » Sat Jul 11, 2020 8:14 am

He’s just commuted Roger Stones’ prison sentence. The law only applies to little people there.

fatboy47 · Post by **fatboy47** » Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:09 am

Buxtonclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:32 am
Hope your right.
But sadly, even after the years he's spent embarrassing their Presidential Office, can't see the Yanks wanting to make themselves 'look bad' so publicly.
Whoever follows this bumwipe is going to have a lot of cleaning up to do, at home and abroad.
He's already turned America into some comedy/horror soap opera.
And I just hope it doesn't get worse than that before they rid him. He's not finished his sociopathic reign just yet.

But...... But.. Ringo and Uwe say he's a top bloke.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:12 am

fatboy47 wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:09 am
But...... But.. Ringo and Uwe say he's a top bloke.

Expect they think Boris is Mr Integrity too.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:39 am

According to this guy Trump has 91% chance of winning the next election!

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 6.html?amp

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:49 am

He will win, it’s certain.

It doesn’t matter what he says - if he says something wrong, lies or create division, he either didn’t say it, is a hoax or fake news. Anything positive that happens is all down to him because he’s a genius

Gordaleman · Post by **Gordaleman** » Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:59 am

Buxtonclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:12 am
Expect they think Boris is Mr Integrity too.

People who think Boris and Trump are OK, presumably have the same lack of moral compass.

Holmeclaret · Post by **Holmeclaret** » Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:31 am

He will win because he makes a lot of white Americans feel better about themselves.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:23 am

and now he is trying to discredit Fauci, the guy that has represented every president for the last 40 years !

Clarets4me · Post by **Clarets4me** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:30 am

AndrewJB wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 11, 2020 8:14 am
He’s just commuted Roger Stones’ prison sentence. The law only applies to little people there.

I'm not a fan of Trump, but before you comment, you might want to have a look at the list of the 450 people that Bill Clinton used his powers to " pardon or give clemency to ", relating to their Crimes .....

12 Puerto Rican Terrorists,
Edgar & Vonna Jo Gregory, Carnival owners, who'd given Hillary's brother $107,000 as a loan, which was never repaid ..

The list of people that Bill Clinton used his powers to have their crimes " pardoned and commuted " has it's own Wikipedia page, and includes Bank robbers, Terrorists, child sex offenders, child pornographers, convicted Cocaine dealers, and his own brother, as well as Hillary's ...

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:38 am

Clarets4me wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:30 am
I'm not a fan of Trump, but before you comment, you might want to have a look at the list of the 450 people that Bill Clinton used his powers to " pardon or give clemency to ", relating to their Crimes .....

12 Puerto Rican Terrorists,
Edgar & Vonna Jo Gregory, Carnival owners, who'd given Hillary's brother $107,000 as a loan, which was never repaid ..

The list of people that Bill Clinton used his powers to have their crimes " pardoned and commuted " has it's own Wikipedia page, and includes Bank robbers, Terrorists, child sex offenders, child pornographers, convicted Cocaine dealers, and his own brother, as well as Hillary's ...

Can’t wait for the replies to the above. Although when you make a good and valid point those who swing to the left usually ignore or attempt to deflect

AndrewJB · Post by **AndrewJB** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:22 am

Clarets4me wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:30 am
I'm not a fan of Trump, but before you comment, you might want to have a look at the list of the 450 people that Bill Clinton used his powers to " pardon or give clemency to ", relating to their Crimes .....

12 Puerto Rican Terrorists,
Edgar & Vonna Jo Gregory, Carnival owners, who'd given Hillary's brother $107,000 as a loan, which was never repaid ..

The list of people that Bill Clinton used his powers to have their crimes " pardoned and commuted " has it's own Wikipedia page, and includes Bank robbers, Terrorists, child sex offenders, child pornographers, convicted Cocaine dealers, and his own brother, as well as Hillary's ...

Every president has used their power to pardon or commute, and most have used it as patronage, normally just before their term of office has ended.

As Romney said, Trump’s action broke the mould in that he’s commuted the sentence of someone convicted for lying to shield him.

Clarets4me · Post by **Clarets4me** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:40 pm

AndrewJB wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:22 am
Every president has used their power to pardon or commute, and most have used it as patronage, normally just before their term of office has ended.
As Romney said, Trump’s action broke the mould in that he’s commuted the sentence of someone convicted for lying to shield him.

On the contrary, Susan McDougal was pardoned by Bill Clinton, for her conviction for " Civil Contempt " for which she served 18 months. She incurred this sentence for refusing to answer three questions put to her by the Grand Jury during the " Whitewater Inquiry ", relating as to whether Bill Clinton had lied relating to an illegal $300,000 loan ...

As I say, I'm no particular fan of Trump ....

fatboy47 · Post by **fatboy47** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:11 pm

FCBurnley wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:38 am
Can’t wait for the replies to the above. Although when you make a good and valid point those who swing to the left usually ignore or attempt to deflect

Keep the "left" out of it sunbeam

Clinton's just another right wing greedy corrupt sleazebag yank without a socialist bone in his body.
He's just slightly less of a jumped up fascist pig than Trump...he's not Che Guevara.

AndrewJB · Post by **AndrewJB** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:12 pm

Clarets4me wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:40 pm
On the contrary, Susan McDougal was pardoned by Bill Clinton, for her conviction for " Civil Contempt " for which she served 18 months. She incurred this sentence for refusing to answer three questions put to her by the Grand Jury during the " Whitewater Inquiry ", relating as to whether Bill Clinton had lied relating to an illegal $300,000 loan ...

As I say, I'm no particular fan of Trump ....

As I said, Trump broke the mould. McDougal was pardoned after she served her sentence. I’m no fan of Clinton, but Trump has pushed the boundaries further.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:37 pm

AndrewJB wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:12 pm
As I said, Trump broke the mould. McDougal was pardoned after she served her sentence. I’m no fan of Clinton, but Trump has pushed the boundaries further.

He's kicked their constitution around like a football, and now he's just sticking two fingers up at the laws they have over there.

Poor dear is upset because someone's just told him he's not above the law regarding his tax returns.
...Plus he probably doesn't want Stone to open his mouth.

Clarets4me · Post by **Clarets4me** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:52 pm

He's also pardoned posthumously the boxer Jack Johnson, who had a conviction for breaching the " Mann Act " in 1913, ( basically taking his white girlfriend, later wife, across a state line ), it was a trumped up charge by people unhappy that Johnson was running a desegregated night club. George W Bush & Obama both denied the pardon ... highly overdue. The other thing he's done was to award posthumous " Presidential medal of Freedom's " to both Babe Ruth and Elvis Presley .... again long overdue

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:18 pm

Not sure anyone will disagree about Clinton.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:04 am

as far as incoherent inaccurate rambles go this is right up there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDaEM46_twk

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:09 am

IanMcL wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:50 pm
Chump remakns the most unbalanced person, ever to lead a nation. I include Herr H in that list.

Trump worse than Hitler

Its no wonder everyone thinks the left is bat sh*t mental is it?

exilecanada · Post by **exilecanada** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:14 am

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:04 am
as far as incoherent inaccurate rambles go this is right up there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDaEM46_twk

I watched a little of that drivel, typical Donnie nonsense. I did notice he's got a new light grey hair rinse going on though, could this be the precursor to the blue rinse, so he can blend in when in retirement in South Florida?

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:30 am

Damo wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:09 am
Trump worse than Hitler

Its no wonder everyone thinks the left is bat sh*t mental is it?

Hitler had a clear plan and could give a speech by stringing words together - Agree or disagree with Trumps policies, that's fine and a persons prerogative. It's completely irrelevant if you (or anyone) judge anybody to be left or right but there is zero doubt that Trump is incoherent and if you think any different to that then you hold no credibility whatsoever because you are letting your bias guide you. Even the pro-Trump news stations call him incoherent

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:31 am

exilecanada wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:14 am
I watched a little of that drivel, typical Donnie nonsense. I did notice he's got a new light grey hair rinse going on though, could this be the precursor to the blue rinse, so he can blend in when in retirement in South Florida?

Yeah I saw that, wondered if it was just the light.

I watched the whole thing, it was a train wreck

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:07 am

Bragging now how he's got Boris and the rest of Europe doing what's they're told on the 5g front.

Huawei aside, things are going to start getting much nastier in the States with this dangerously unhinged monster as November draws in,

fatboy47 · Post by **fatboy47** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:45 am

There hasn't been a British PM since Wilson that's stood up to the yanks.
It sure as hell won't be Johnson.

Clarets4me · Post by **Clarets4me** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:58 am

fatboy47 wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:45 am
There hasn't been a British PM since Wilson that's stood up to the yanks.
It sure as hell won't be Johnson.

" Not one bag-piper, Mr President ! " .... Wilson was quoted as saying ...

Uwe Noble · Post by **Uwe Noble** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:19 pm

Gordaleman wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:59 am
People who think Boris and Trump are OK, presumably have the same lack of moral compass.

Yeah, because we all know that you are so morally superior.

Uwe Noble · Post by **Uwe Noble** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:21 pm

I can't wait for some of the plonkers on this board to eat their words when Trump us re-elected.

Gordaleman · Post by **Gordaleman** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:24 pm

Uwe Noble wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:19 pm
Yeah, because we all know that you are so morally superior.

The difference is, I do have morals. Trump and Johnson don't.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:28 pm

Gordaleman wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:24 pm
The difference is, I do have morals. Trump and Johnson don't.

What are your morals ?

Gordaleman · Post by **Gordaleman** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:34 pm

FCBurnley wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:28 pm
What are your morals ?

Put simply, I believe in helping others in any way I can and treating people and situations in the same way I'd like to be treated by others. Trump and Johnson are only interested in helping themselves and they couldn't care less about anyone else.

You clearly have a different view but I'm not getting into a one to one argument with anyone on here.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:39 pm

Gordaleman wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:34 pm
Put simply, I believe in helping others in any way I can and treating people and situations in the same way I'd like to be treated by others. Trump and Johnson are only interested in helping themselves and they couldn't care less about anyone else.

You clearly have a different view but I'm not getting into a one to one argument with anyone on here.

Not arguing with anybody nor did I insult you. I simply asked you a fair question which you replied to. Why does that mean I have a different view to you ? Remember I only asked what morals you had

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:42 pm

Uwe Noble wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:21 pm
I can't wait for some of the plonkers on this board to eat their words when Trump us re-elected.

he may well get elected because Biden isn't great, let's not forget though, Trump only got in because of how the US political system works, he actually lost the vote and that was with a thoroughly reviled Clinton on the ticket.

Whatever happens America won't have a good President, just my opinion though that the lesser of two evils is clearly Biden.

One thing Trump has done superbly though is he has brought out all the racists and extremists into common view (left and right), we now know who they all are and hopefully they will be dealt with at some point.

As for "I can't wait for some of the plonkers on this board to eat their words when Trump us re-elected" - I've never understood this type of comment, voting for a racist conman isn't a badge of honor

Gordaleman · Post by **Gordaleman** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:44 pm

FCBurnley wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:39 pm
Not arguing with anybody nor did I insult you. I simply asked you a fair question which you replied to. Why does that mean I have a different view to you ? Remember I only asked what morals you had

Well it was a bit of a strange question then. It suggested you didn't agree. To answer it fully would have taken ages.

So let me ask you. Do you support Trump and Johnson?

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:45 pm

Morning Vegas. You up early or up late ?

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:50 pm

Gordaleman wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:44 pm
Well it was a bit of a strange question then. It suggested you didn't agree. To answer it fully would have taken ages.

So let me ask you. Do you support Trump and Johnson?

My question was about morals and had nothing to do with political support. Happy to discuss my morals if you like

Gordaleman · Post by **Gordaleman** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:53 pm

FCBurnley wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:50 pm
My question was about morals and had nothing to do with political support. Happy to discuss my morals if you like

No, I'm not as interested in your morals as you appeared to be in mine.

exilecanada · Post by **exilecanada** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:57 pm

Uwe Noble wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:21 pm
I can't wait for some of the plonkers on this board to eat their words when Trump is re-elected.

I’m a staunch Trump hater, however I’d be surprised if the isn’t re-elected. Why, you may ask? The answer is in the following proverb “There are none so blind as those who will not see”. He’s playing his base like a fiddle and they’re soaking it all up like a sponge. Also, if Biden is the best opponent the Yanks can come up with, the future doesn’t look too bright for the self-proclaimed ‘best country in the world’.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:22 pm

FCBurnley wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:45 pm
Morning Vegas. You up early or up late ?

been up since 5 for some unknown reason

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:23 pm

anyway

https://twitter.com/TheGoodLiars/status ... 43842?s=20