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Re: Donald Trump

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:04 pm
by FactualFrank
Uwe Noble wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:02 pm
Incidentally, Pete, now that you've appointed yourself as a guru for the more capable, perhaps you should go back to school and bone up on American government and politics? You're understanding of the American constitution is particularly weak.
It's Pete to friends - Turtle/Charlie to the rest of us.

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:06 pm
by claretonthecoast1882
You can imagine ImplodingWilton being right behind the ripjkrowling movement

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:06 pm
by Uwe Noble
PeterWilton wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:01 pm
Uwe Noble. You know we're laughing at you, right? The entire left is laughing at you. Sometimes we stop to pity you, but then we get back to laughing at you.

Keep supporting your oppressors. We've stopped trying to help you long ago because it's just funny at this point.
Laughing at me. This from someone who can write a line like "Keep supporting your oppressors" and keep a straight face. Yes I'm laughing a the crap you come out with.

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:09 pm
by PeterWilton
Uwe Noble wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:02 pm
Incidentally, Pete, now that you've appointed yourself as a guru for the more capable, perhaps you should go back to school and bone up on American government and politics? You're understanding of the American constitution is particularly weak.
I think I'll take education advice from someone who knows when to use a contraction and when to use a determiner.

I've demonstrated to you in as few syllables as possible how you are wrong, but you are steadfastly refusing to be corrected. This is one of the reasons we laugh at you.

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:09 pm
by Uwe Noble
By the way, would anybody like to join me in lauding Trump for his great generosity in donating his salary to the Veterans' Affairs department? How many other American Presidents have given up their salary like this?

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:11 pm
by PeterWilton
CombatClaret wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:26 pm
He's either guilty of tax fraud, a terrible businessman, or the US has the most corrupt tax code in the world"

Why not all three.

I believe the answer is yes.

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:12 pm
by PeterWilton
Uwe Noble wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:09 pm
By the way, would anybody like to join me in lauding Trump for his great generosity in donating his salary to the Veterans' Affairs department? How many other American Presidents have given up their salary like this?
Are those the same veterans he ripped off so much that the courts banned him from running any more charities? Or are they different veterans?

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:16 pm
by Uwe Noble
Pete what are you going to do when he gets re-elected?

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:17 pm
by PeterWilton
Uwe Noble wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:16 pm
Pete what are you going to do when he gets re-elected?
He won't be re-elected. A coup is different to winning an election. Would you like me to school you on that too?

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:20 pm
by Uwe Noble
Looking forward to a 6-3 conservative majority on the Supreme Court. This could go down as possibly Trump's greatest achievement.

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:21 pm
by willsclarets
Uwe Noble wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:53 am
I do realise how inconvenient it must be when someone points out the facts for you.
The facts, in their hoards, point to one conclusion. And that is Donald Trump is quite frankly a disgusting human being. His supporters seem to have a few methods of response to the mounting list of despicable things he's either said or done, i) other people behave badly too you know! ii) flat out denial any accusation has merit iii) understate the seriousness of any allegation. It's never a critical evaluation of a person who should be held to the highest standards, always the response of a wounded cat in a corner. And when I say "mounting list", it's genuinely massive. He can barely go a day without being horrific.

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:38 pm
by Uwe Noble
Here's another one for y'all. In 2016, Joe’s last year in office, the Bidens earned about $400k. In 2017 and 2918, the Bidens made more than $16.5 million. How did that happen? Has he paid his income tax on this?

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:39 pm
by PeterWilton
willsclarets wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:21 pm
The facts, in their hoards, point to one conclusion. And that is Donald Trump is quite frankly a disgusting human being. His supporters seem to have a few methods of response to the mounting list of despicable things he's either said or done, i) other people behave badly too you know! ii) flat out denial any accusation has merit iii) understate the seriousness of any allegation. It's never a critical evaluation of a person who should be held to the highest standards, always the response of a wounded cat in a corner. And when I say "mounting list", it's genuinely massive. He can barely go a day without being horrific.

They know. All Trump's supporters know exactly what he is. It's why they support him. In 2016 they had deniability. It was remotely possible they were just gullible fools, but there's no question now what he is and there's no question that it's why his supporters support him.
They are all in the basket now.

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:41 pm
by Uwe Noble
willsclarets wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:21 pm
The facts, in their hoards, point to one conclusion. And that is Donald Trump is quite frankly a disgusting human being. His supporters seem to have a few methods of response to the mounting list of despicable things he's either said or done, i) other people behave badly too you know! ii) flat out denial any accusation has merit iii) understate the seriousness of any allegation. It's never a critical evaluation of a person who should be held to the highest standards, always the response of a wounded cat in a corner. And when I say "mounting list", it's genuinely massive. He can barely go a day without being horrific.
You have no idea whether DJT is a "disgusting human being". You just believe everything you read in the liberal media. You need a lie down.

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:42 pm
by PeterWilton
Uwe Noble wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:38 pm
Here's another one for y'all. In 2016, Joe’s last year in office, the Bidens earned about $400k. In 2017 and 2918, the Bidens made more than $16.5 million. How did that happen? Has he paid his income tax on this?

Because Biden isn't a fraud he has released his tax returns.

https://joebiden.com/financial-disclosure/

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:44 pm
by martin_p
Uwe Noble wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:09 pm
By the way, would anybody like to join me in lauding Trump for his great generosity in donating his salary to the Veterans' Affairs department? How many other American Presidents have given up their salary like this?
Quite a few apparently.

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:46 pm
by PeterWilton
Uwe Noble wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:41 pm
You have no idea whether DJT is a "disgusting human being". You just believe everything you read in the liberal media. You need a lie down.

All I need now is "deep state" and I've won Trump Nut Bingo.

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:51 pm
by Holmeclaret
Uwe Noble wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:09 pm
By the way, would anybody like to join me in lauding Trump for his great generosity in donating his salary to the Veterans' Affairs department? How many other American Presidents have given up their salary like this?
So that’s why he’s barely paid any tax for over a decade. All is forgiven Don. I’m humbled by your generosity.

Presidential Debate ... 29th September

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:51 pm
by Clarets4me
The first TV Presidential Debate is due at Case Western University, Cleveland tomorrow, at 9 pm E.T. ( 2.00 am Wednesday BST ) . The moderator is FOX News's Chris Wallace, a registered Democrat. The 90 minute Broadcast will be split into six 15 minute segments on the following subjects ....

1) The records of Joe Biden and Donald Trump
2) The Supreme Court
3) Covid-19
4) The Economy
5) The integrity of the Election
6) " Race & violence in our cities "

Should be interesting for those who take an interest in such things ... ;)

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:55 pm
by Lancasterclaret
n 2017, Trump paid $750 in federal taxes, but paid

—$15,598 in Panama
—$145,400 in India
—$156,824 in the Philippines

So much for America first.

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:01 pm
by claretabroad
Uwe Noble wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:20 pm
Looking forward to a 6-3 conservative majority on the Supreme Court. This could go down as possibly Trump's greatest achievement.
This is all Mitch McConnell and he had to invent a way to bypass the consitution in order to try and get it done.

I'm not surprised by the tax revelations but they are just one of an increasingly large number of revelations that show he is unfit to be president. Any normal president would have been removed for any one of these revelations but McConnell keeps him on because he gets to pack the courts.

I expect that the forthcoming election will result in violence. Trump will go out to an early lead and will then declare himself the winner. Postal votes will start to be counted and it will become obvious that he has lost but he'll dig in and litigate those votes out of existence. Violence will ensue. This is what happens when you campaign on division and smears instead of policy. Politics in the US has become toxic and there needs to be a serious rethink about how to conduct it, I'm not holding my breath though.