I think it’s gone over DAs head (unsurprisingly). Everything that went wrong in the CPS under his tenure will be fair game - falling convictions, rape guidelines, PC hate crimes, his knighthood was for bureaucracy not advocacy and don’t even start on the number of terrorist cases he stopped!!
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So was KS tenure in that office very different to any other incumbents ?
Oh and has not virtually everyone who has held that position also not been knighted ?
“Knighted for bureaucracy” - that really is a new one !
Oh and has not virtually everyone who has held that position also not been knighted ?
“Knighted for bureaucracy” - that really is a new one !
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I like that one, can’t remember where I read it. The point they will try to reinforce is it came with the job, not because he was a brilliant advocate.
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2007 QC of the Year..............voted Leave...........married to a Jew......and the rednecks still aren't satisfied.
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How many other incumbent has gone on to be leader of the Labour Party? All his decisions will be scrutinised.
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Can we just be clear, does he or does he not dwell in a metropolitan bubble?
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If they are he will know it’s part of the territory.Burnley Ace wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:48 pmHow many other incumbent has gone on to be leader of the Labour Party? All his decisions will be scrutinised.
Just like having several children by multiple women or having sex with a pig at public school.
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Is this the standard metrpolitan bubble or Ringo's? I believe Ringo's starts just south of the M62 so he probably falls afoul of that.Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:50 pmCan we just be clear, does he or does he not dwell in a metropolitan bubble?
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Does anyone care about his children? The “mud” computer from the allegations about the Saville cover up is more likely to resonate with the right wing media.
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I’m guessing the children care that the father isn’t living with them ? Maybe the mothers care who he has left to bring up their children ?Burnley Ace wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:18 pmDoes anyone care about his children? The “mud” computer from the allegations about the Saville cover up is more likely to resonate with the right wing media.
As for Saville my guess would be that whatever you think you know about KS is purely speculation as to his involvement. But just like the right wing press will do I am sure you will continue to make sh-it up without any evidence or foundation.
But if you do have something concrete take it to the authorities rather than post it on a football messageboard. It’s hardly a trivial matter that you are talking about - the leader of major political party allegedly covering up something so terrible.
Unless of course you are just being another gossiping tit on a forum.
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To be honest, I doubt you'd fit a cigarette paper between most opposition MP's aversion to racism, and acceptance of LGBT rights. I would include SNP, PC, Green, and most LibDems in addition to Labour MPs. I don't think any of the people you're talking about would even understand what you're trying to say in terms of describing them. But then your opinions are unlikely to have been formed as a result of studying them or things they've said or done.AlargeClaret wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:35 pmWhile Nandy is likely to be a key Starmer ally and ain’t no fan of JC’s “ lot”, I think she even tried to get shut of him ? I feel she’s a little blinded by “ Guardian -esque” issues of gender fluidity, racism in everything, remaining and so forth . Not to the degree of RLB or Lammy of course . In her favour she’s relatively “ normal “ compared to the likes of Awkward Ed and Emily “ I’m working class me you know” Thornberry
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Have you done a search on “Saville and Stamer”? I’m not alleging anything, it’s already out there - 2009 CPS drop four cases against Saville due to “insufficient evidence” whilst he was head of CPS. Now the decision not to charge would not have been taken by him, he might not have even known that the Police had presented a file of evidence on Saville, why would he? Why didn’t he want an independent review into the matter?TVC15 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:35 pmI’m guessing the children care that the father isn’t living with them ? Maybe the mothers care who he has left to bring up their children ?
As for Saville my guess would be that whatever you think you know about KS is purely speculation as to his involvement. But just like the right wing press will do I am sure you will continue to make sh-it up without any evidence or foundation.
But if you do have something concrete take it to the authorities rather than post it on a football messageboard. It’s hardly a trivial matter that you are talking about - the leader of major political party allegedly covering up something so terrible.
Unless of course you are just being another gossiping tit on a forum.
John Worboys? Drs caught on tape offering gender selected abortions - “not in the public interest”.
These are accusations already in the public domain. Aggi asked “it will be interesting to see what attack lines people go with” and I was giving him an example.
Big house and not working class enough are the least of his worries. As Cameron found out with the pig allegation- repeat it enough and it sticks.
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Have you done on a search on “boll-ox written on the internet” ?Burnley Ace wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 12:21 amHave you done a search on “Saville and Stamer”? I’m not alleging anything, it’s already out there - 2009 CPS drop four cases against Saville due to “insufficient evidence” whilst he was head of CPS. Now the decision not to charge would not have been taken by him, he might not have even known that the Police had presented a file of evidence on Saville, why would he? Why didn’t he want an independent review into the matter?
John Worboys? Drs caught on tape offering gender selected abortions - “not in the public interest”.
These are accusations already in the public domain. Aggi asked “it will be interesting to see what attack lines people go with” and I was giving him an example.
Big house and not working class enough are the least of his worries. As Cameron found out with the pig allegation- repeat it enough and it sticks.
There’s f’in loads of it.
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I hope to god that Corbyn can resist coming to PMQ to undermine his democratically elected new leader. I wouldn’t be surprised if he is there though. He’s there to oppose, oppose and ....oppose, just for the sake of it, I think?
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This is what we want, a spit and sawdust, flat-capped, down to earth bloke.
OK, so he and his mates used to trash restaurants and wave £50 notes in the faces of poor people.
That's the kind of leader and values we look up to, yeah ?
OK, so he and his mates used to trash restaurants and wave £50 notes in the faces of poor people.
That's the kind of leader and values we look up to, yeah ?
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That's "charisma" Eddie.evensteadiereddie wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 7:52 amThis is what we want, a spit and sawdust, flat-capped, down to earth bloke.
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OK, so he and his mates used to trash restaurants and wave £50 notes in the faces of poor people.
That's the kind of leader and values we look up to, yeah ?
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Unbelievably Corbyn is there again but this time has moved further forward, overseeing Kier Starmer from about five metres. What is he up to?
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She’s a keen remainer but had the good sense to back her local electorate who voted overwhelmingly to leave rather than presume they were all knuckle dragging nazis .nil_desperandum wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:51 pmCan't be sure what you are referring to there, but if it's a brexit related "remain" then nothing could be further from the mark. She was one of the most outspoken Labour MPs , insisting that "leaving" was the priority and was keen to get a "deal" over the line. Even during the Labour leadership campaign she referred to "remoaners" - which of course didn't go down too well with a lot of Labour supporters / /members.
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Voted leave in spite of them being knuckle-dragging Nazis. A job's a job.
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Sounds like Corbyn's still got you rattled dermot, he's returned to the backbenches, just let it go.dermotdermot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 12:34 pmUnbelievably Corbyn is there again but this time has moved further forward, overseeing Kier Starmer from about five metres. What is he up to?