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Premier League to announce season over?

Post by PremierLeagueClass » Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:16 am

According to the Udinese Director. Might be an idle comment with no basis or has he let something slip?

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Re: Premier League to announce season over?

Post by Spijed » Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:17 am

PremierLeagueClass wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:16 am
According to the Udinese Director. Might be an idle comment with no basis or has he let something slip?
Why would they announce it's over when Germany plan to re-start the season, likewise with Spain?

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Post by lakedistrictclaret » Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:20 am

Spijed wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:17 am
Why would they announce it's over when Germany plan to re-start the season, likewise with Spain?
Exactly.

And I think we've already established that most if not all Premier League clubs can't afford the loss of TV money if the season ends now
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Re: Premier League to announce season over?

Post by Steve1956 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:30 am

No chance the season being curtailed to much money to be lost and the greed will ensure it comes to a satisfactory end....
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Re: Premier League to announce season over?

Post by dsr » Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:43 am

PremierLeagueClass wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:16 am
According to the Udinese Director. Might be an idle comment with no basis or has he let something slip?
How would he know?

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Re: Premier League to announce season over?

Post by FactualFrank » Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:52 am

dsr wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:43 am
How would he know?
Linked with the owner of Watford.

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Re: Premier League to announce season over?

Post by bfcmik » Wed Apr 08, 2020 12:08 pm

There are probably several clubs, including Watford, that are hoping/praying the season is called off so they do not have to be relegated.

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Post by Spike » Wed Apr 08, 2020 12:55 pm

I wish the trash press would stop printing lies

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Post by dsr » Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:48 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:52 am
Linked with the owner of Watford.
And how would the owner of Watford know, when the owner of Burnley doesn't?

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Re: Premier League to announce season over?

Post by FactualFrank » Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:04 pm

dsr wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:48 pm
And how would the owner of Watford know, when the owner of Burnley doesn't?
I've no idea, you'll have to ask him.

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Post by Enty1974 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:25 pm

Cant believe you believed it to even start a post on it

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Re: Premier League to announce season over?

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:44 pm

This season will be completed even if they do not restart until October and quite right.
If they called it a “ no season “ now then next season would never start as teams like Leeds and WBA would put legal challenges in which could take years to resolve and at the same time would refuse to play in the Championship
So next season would be filled with no games and legal challenges

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Post by conyoviejo » Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:54 pm

DAVETHEVICAR wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:44 pm
This season will be completed even if they do not restart until October and quite right.
If they called it a “ no season “ now then next season would never start as teams like Leeds and WBA would put legal challenges in which could take years to resolve and at the same time would refuse to play in the Championship
So next season would be filled with no games and legal challenges
Id be gutted for Leeds if it wasn't completed.. :D

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Post by dsr » Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:28 pm

I still don't see who Leeds would sue if the season isn't completed. The Premier League, to claim the promotion that they haven't earned? The Football League, for not finishing the season? The government, for imposing Coronavirus restrictions? China, for setting the thing off? I can't see why they would win any of those cases.

If they had finished the season and come top, then they would have a case. That's what the Premier League promised, that the top two plus a play-off team would be promoted at the end of the season. But who can they sue to give them what they hoped might have happened if they had been able to play some more matches?

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Post by yorkyclaret » Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:29 pm

Be funny if they start it again next month, and all the teams desperately trying to not qualify for Europe.

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Post by Nonayforever » Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:41 pm

dsr wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:28 pm
I still don't see who Leeds would sue if the season isn't completed. The Premier League, to claim the promotion that they haven't earned? The Football League, for not finishing the season? The government, for imposing Coronavirus restrictions? China, for setting the thing off? I can't see why they would win any of those cases.
They would sue the first league to cancel the season, therefore denying them possible promotion.
If both leagues made a joint announcement they would sue the football league.

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Post by 1HappyClaret » Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:06 pm

The German leagues hope to restart in early May. All clubs have resumed training. Season to end by 30th June. Fans not allowed in to Stadiums until 2021 so first half of next season will also be behind closed doors.

This is from the CEO of the Bundasliga

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Re: Premier League to announce season over?

Post by dsr » Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:16 pm

Nonayforever wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:41 pm
They would sue the first league to cancel the season, therefore denying them possible promotion.
If both leagues made a joint announcement they would sue the football league.
And would they win? They would surely have to prove that the league was at fault.

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Re: Premier League to announce season over?

Post by tiger76 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:28 pm

yorkyclaret wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:29 pm
Be funny if they start it again next month, and all the teams desperately trying to not qualify for Europe.
Business as usual then in that case ;)

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Re: Premier League to announce season over?

Post by tiger76 » Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:18 pm

EFL making plans for closed door games to complete the season.

The English Football League season can be completed in 56 days when it is safe to resume amid the coronavirus pandemic, clubs have been told.

But it is assumed that matches will be played behind closed doors.

A letter sent to all 71 EFL clubs by chairman Rick Parry, and obtained by the BBC, said no training should resume until at least 16 May.

The EFL is hopeful the campaign can finish in the summer, but there is no indication when it might begin again.

All 24 sides in the Championship still had nine matches to play when the league was suspended on 13 March.

Some clubs in League One and League Two have 10 games left.

If the campaign had carried on as normal, the remaining fixtures would have been completed in 73 days up until the Championship play-off final on 25 May.

The EFL estimates it can now finish all matches within two months, including the play-offs, although plenty of sides have already played as many games in such a timeframe earlier in the season.

"How and when we return (including training) is clearly subject to change and any decisions will be taken in conjunction with the government and relevant health authorities," the letter said.

"It is our working assumption at this stage that matches will be played behind closed doors when we eventually return and as part of our contingency planning we are absolutely mindful of the need to try and mitigate the cost of this to clubs as best we can."

The EFL season is currently suspended indefinitely with the last handful of games taking place in League One and League Two on 10 March.

Several sides have already put players and staff on furlough or temporary leave. However, a £125m advance from the Premier League to the EFL and National League will not be distributed "while additional clarity is sought on other financial matters, particularly in respect to player wages".

The letter also suggested the start of next season could be delayed.

"Looking more long-term, the EFL must remain mindful of the implications that the extension of this season may have on the commencement of the 2020-21 campaign, although we will ensure there is a suitable break between the two, so as to allow clubs and staff sufficient time to regroup and prepare accordingly," it added.

"I think there will be a sigh of relief as and when we reach that point, and what is clear right now is that Covid-19 continues to present hugely challenging and uncertain times for everyone, and our thoughts are with all those directly affected by the pandemic."

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Post by dushanbe » Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:22 pm

It will be interesting to see what happens with the play off finals and FA cup final. No point playing them at Wembley if its behind closed doors, they could be played anywhere.

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Post by Chester Perry » Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:42 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:18 pm
EFL making plans for closed door games to complete the season.

The English Football League season can be completed in 56 days when it is safe to resume amid the coronavirus pandemic, clubs have been told.

But it is assumed that matches will be played behind closed doors.

A letter sent to all 71 EFL clubs by chairman Rick Parry, and obtained by the BBC, said no training should resume until at least 16 May.

The EFL is hopeful the campaign can finish in the summer, but there is no indication when it might begin again.

There is a huge issue with the behind closed doors - it will actually cause many clubs to lose more money - @AndyhHolt spelt it out quite clearly this morning

All I hear about from football leaders, newspapers, the media, the @FA @EFL @premierleague @PFA etc. is the need to finish this season.

I understand this. @SkyFootball and @UEFA are clowns for making threats to future income about this.

We don’t need added pressure to make...

…..wrong decisions here.

All our players and staff are furloughed @ASFCofficial save 4 to keep some communication and grass cut.

There’s no hope of finishing this season any time soon, unless it’s behind closed doors.

But this is massively costly because to get back up and..

...running we’d have to un-furlough the club a month in advance and for the period until the season is finished.

Say 3 months for 50 folk. £375,000 alone. It does not include all the other costs of stadia, medical, police etc.

So to finish season £500k loss minimum with zero income

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Re: Premier League to announce season over?

Post by Whitgord » Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:47 pm

I wonder if Sky et al could promise to show each EFL team live at least once for the remainder of the season. Even those in League 2. I don’t know what they would pay the clubs per game but it would at least offset some of the predicted losses.

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Post by Chester Perry » Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:51 pm

Whitgord wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:47 pm
I wonder if Sky et al could promise to show each EFL team live at least once for the remainder of the season. Even those in League 2. I don’t know what they would pay the clubs per game but it would at least offset some of the predicted losses.
it is pennies at that level - less than £10k I think - Leeds are on around 20 times a season and make less than £1m extra from it was my understanding - I will go and check

EDIT - (Last season) The EFL hand out Championship clubs £100,000 for every home game that a club hosts on Sky Sports, with that figure going up to £120,000 for games being played on a Sunday and £140,000 for Thursday games.
Visiting sides are awarded £10,000 per game.

a lot of Leeds away games are on TV

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Re: Premier League to announce season over?

Post by Paul Waine » Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:00 pm

Think of the "feast of football" if PL + EFL organised 4 TV football slots every day: 12:30, 15:00; 17:30 and 20:00. Every PL game live in a separate time slot. Maybe do the same with key Championship games and some "pick and mix" selections of Div 1 and Div 2. The latter a little like the last game of the season "live-lites."

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Re: Premier League to announce season over?

Post by FactualFrank » Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:04 pm

Paul Waine wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:00 pm
Think of the "feast of football" if PL + EFL organised 4 TV football slots every day: 12:30, 15:00; 17:30 and 20:00. Every PL game live in a separate time slot. Maybe do the same with key Championship games and some "pick and mix" selections of Div 1 and Div 2. The latter a little like the last game of the season "live-lites."
Other than no crowd so no atmosphere, that would be brilliant.

They would need to put some sort of fake crowd noise on.

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Post by Chester Perry » Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:06 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:04 pm
Other than no crowd so no atmosphere, that would be brilliant.

They would need to put some sort of fake crowd noise on.
thought they did already from time to time - some clubs definitely do

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Re: Premier League to announce season over?

Post by Spijed » Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:24 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:42 pm
There is a huge issue with the behind closed doors - it will actually cause many clubs to lose more money - @AndyhHolt spelt it out quite clearly this morning

All I hear about from football leaders, newspapers, the media, the @FA @EFL @premierleague @PFA etc. is the need to finish this season.

I understand this. @SkyFootball and @UEFA are clowns for making threats to future income about this.

We don’t need added pressure to make...

…..wrong decisions here.

All our players and staff are furloughed @ASFCofficial save 4 to keep some communication and grass cut.

There’s no hope of finishing this season any time soon, unless it’s behind closed doors.

But this is massively costly because to get back up and..

...running we’d have to un-furlough the club a month in advance and for the period until the season is finished.

Say 3 months for 50 folk. £375,000 alone. It does not include all the other costs of stadia, medical, police etc.

So to finish season £500k loss minimum with zero income
Funny how he's calling for this season to be cut short when Accrington aren't safe from the drop...

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Post by Chester Perry » Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:32 pm

Spijed - It is not about that - and they would have been ok I believe - @uglygame makes the point I have made a couple of times elsewhere on the board (first time about 3 weeks ago) - forget this season, the next one is more important if you want more clubs to survive -

https://twitter.com/uglygame/status/1248251166556852228

though in the EFL and lower they cannot restart without folk being safely allowed into grounds and that may have to wait for an effective vaccine. In the meantime PL will have to cut it's cloth accordingly and contribute to the costs of the pyramid whilst it is shut down
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Post by ChorltonCharlie » Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:33 pm

Behind closed doors is a huge issue for clubs below the EPL. I suspect the only ones who'd push for that are ones who can get promoted to the EPL. Best case scenario for a team like Accy is to play games in front of crowds and get the income they need. I've been following Andy long enough to think he's got the games best interests at heart and it's obvious why behind closed doors doesn't work for the EFL. The economic situation is completely different for the EFL to EPL.

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Post by Spijed » Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:00 pm

Scottish football now suspended until 10th June:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52236228

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Post by joey13 » Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:12 pm

1HappyClaret wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:06 pm
The German leagues hope to restart in early May. All clubs have resumed training. Season to end by 30th June. Fans not allowed in to Stadiums until 2021 so first half of next season will also be behind closed doors.

This is from the CEO of the Bundasliga
Germany has got a government who prepared better than the shambles voted in at the last election
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Post by Targetman » Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:20 pm

joey13 wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:12 pm
Germany has got a government who prepared better than the shambles voted in at the last election
Here we go, lets bring politics into it again!

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Post by tiger76 » Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:52 pm

To get back to the subject in question,National League clubs to be asked to vote on ending the season prematurely,however there might still be play-offs.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/52189058

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Post by Spijed » Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:17 pm

From the Mirror:

Premier League clubs are ready to roll out coronavirus testing machines as they step up preparations to make a return.

Clubs could look at using the machines at their training grounds to test players for the virus every day as the Government has pledged more equipment will be in general use by the end of the month.

It would allow clubs to strictly monitor their players as they begin plans to restart training with some looking at resuming by mid-May as hopes rise games may start again in June.

Various clubs have now told their players to expect to return to training next month, they may have to do a "mini pre-season" of two to three weeks and then start playing again in June before cramming the games into a four or five week period.

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Post by dsr » Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:27 pm

Spijed wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:17 pm
Various clubs have now told their players to expect to return to training next month, they may have to do a "mini pre-season" of two to three weeks and then start playing again in June before cramming the games into a four or five week period.
A five week period means 6 Saturdays and 3 midweek games. Hardly "crammed".

Trying to do it in 4, with 5 Sauturdays and 4 midweeks, might be a bit more pressure. Especially if they have a postponement!

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Re: Premier League to announce season over?

Post by Bosscat » Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:36 pm

joey13 wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:12 pm
Germany has got a government who prepared better than the shambles voted in at the last election
Bugger off to Germany then Joey 😉

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