Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

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Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:45 am

Thought not... next ;)
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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by Fenwick » Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:51 am

When they apologise. In person. One by one.

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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by Juan Tanamera » Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:52 am

I'll just go and ask Frank..... ;)

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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by TheFamilyCat » Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:52 am

Fenwick wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:51 am
When they apologise. In person. One by one.
All 800million of them? Could take a while

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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:52 am

I'd start by asking Frank Casper for a date on when they should be forgiven, and he's not the only one.
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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by RingoMcCartney » Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:54 am

No.






Next

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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by FactualFrank » Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:55 am

Juan Tanamera wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:52 am
I'll just go and ask Frank..... ;)
How very dare you.
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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by Chester Perry » Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:55 am

Leeds have published their 2018/19 financial results - no doubts about why that pay cut happened so fast now

full accounts https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history

@KieranMaguire takes a look https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire/statu ... 7947620367

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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by Enty1974 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:56 am

Stay
Down
Forever

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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by Bosscat » Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:56 am

Of course we will....... NOT



Next question
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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:01 am

Bosscat wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:56 am
Of course we will....... NOT



Next question
Thought as much. You can tell I'm 'Stir Crazy' :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by durhamclaret » Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:05 am

Durham says, Never Never Never
Never forgive, never forget, always bear the grudge! UTC

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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by Burnley1989 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:12 am

Not a chance, top of the list for me way above Blackburn
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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by Silkyskills1 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:12 am

23 rd March 1974 around 4.15 in the afternoon an assault took place at Elland Rd. Leeds. The assailant was never charged. I'll never change my mind.
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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by TVC15 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:22 am

Chester Perry wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:55 am
Leeds have published their 2018/19 financial results - no doubts about why that pay cut happened so fast now

full accounts https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history

@KieranMaguire takes a look https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire/statu ... 7947620367
Cheers for the links.
As I understand it they haven’t taken a pay cut - they’ve agreed to defer their wages. So they will be paid in full whatever happens - even if they go bust !

What I will say it’s very clever PR from the club because nearly everyone is talking about them like they have taken a pay cut !!!

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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by Steve1956 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:26 am

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:12 am
23 rd March 1974 around 4.15 in the afternoon an assault took place at Elland Rd. Leeds. The assailant was never charged. I'll never change my mind.
My 18 th birthday,i was there,was it another Leeds v Burnley game full of aggro as normal,can we hear the story?

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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by Jeffbfc » Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:30 am

Burnley1989 wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:12 am
Not a chance, top of the list for me way above Blackburn
And me, can't stand them.

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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by Chester Perry » Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:33 am

TVC15 wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:22 am
Cheers for the links.
As I understand it they haven’t taken a pay cut - they’ve agreed to defer their wages. So they will be paid in full whatever happens - even if they go bust !

What I will say it’s very clever PR from the club because nearly everyone is talking about them like they have taken a pay cut !!!
your right - the club are also treating it like a loan and will effectively pay interest on it - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sport ... sumes.html - though not paying as much as they are to the owner for the loans that are overdue

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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by Funkydrummer » Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:39 am

Narr, narr, narr. Never ever going to happen


The link is to one of the best days of my Burnley Football Club supporting life. (apart from the Casper/Hunter episode)

Enjoy to the mamimum, because we all did on the day, and dined on it for years and years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyaJx3Fgdws

(By the way, sit down and shut up, yer twohat !!)
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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by dsr » Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:42 am

Steve1956 wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:26 am
My 18 th birthday,i was there,was it another Leeds v Burnley game full of aggro as normal,can we hear the story?
Burnley beat Leeds 4-1, Leeds didn't like it, Norman Hunter deliberately crippled Frank Casper by attacking his knee off the pitch after the ball had long gone. Ended his career.

I don't often wish ill on people, but if Don Revie had never existed, the world would have been a better place. (I'd be happy to spit on Bremner's statue as well.)
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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by Rodleydave » Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:43 am

Sorry folks I'm one of a small group that want them to come up...two great derby games...and with Bielsa their football is a joy to watch. a long way removed from the dirty Leeds of years ago. And I too was there for Casper incident... in the Leeds end...just yards away from it. The smirk on Hunter's face is still imprinted in my head.
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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by Steve1956 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:54 am

dsr wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:42 am
Burnley beat Leeds 4-1, Leeds didn't like it, Norman Hunter deliberately crippled Frank Casper by attacking his knee off the pitch after the ball had long gone. Ended his career.

I don't often wish ill on people, but if Don Revie had never existed, the world would have been a better place. (I'd be happy to spit on Bremner's statue as well.)
Oh right,i thought he had been assaulted?

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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by beddie » Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:54 am

I often wonder as time has moved on if Hunter ever thinks about that challenge and if so if he's remorseful.

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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by Steve1956 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:58 am

Is there any footage of that tackle anywhere?...i doubt Hunter thought about it after the game...nevermind 40 odd years later

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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by strayclaret » Wed Apr 08, 2020 12:03 pm

No chance. 50 years of hate and still counting

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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by lakedistrictclaret » Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:04 pm

I've never seen any footage of the 5-1 win at Turf Moor in 1968. That's something I'd like to watch again.
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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:21 pm

lakedistrictclaret wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:04 pm
I've never seen any footage of the 5-1 win at Turf Moor in 1968. That's something I'd like to watch again.
Leeds only lost twice all season. Apart from that afternoon at t'Turf, when Ralph tore them a new one, Leeds were pretty awesome!

Still lives long in the memory. I think I fell in love with Ralph Coates that day :lol:
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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by conyoviejo » Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:49 pm

If the season was cancelled I would be very happy to see Dirty Leeds staying down in the championship again.

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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by KateR » Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:57 pm

there is no way I want to see the season cancelled and there is no way I want to see Leeds promoted, a true dilemma

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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by TVC15 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:01 pm

I’d rather we finish the season as Burnley is my no 1 priority from a football point of view.
If that means Leeds go up as seems highly likely then so be it...they have a brilliant manager now, good owners for the first time in decades and some very good players..so it’s pretty inevitable they are going to be back sooner rather than later.
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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by Chester Perry » Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:09 pm

Leeds have bet the ranch on this season, if they don't go up it will take a few years for them to re-gather themselves for another push. If they do go up I expect an announcement of a new investor very quickly

as to the original OP - that would be No, Nay, Never

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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by Pstotto » Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:14 pm

Blackburn? ... LEEDS.

Burnley's biggest enemy by a mile.

The PL season and the EFL season are not the same.

Whilst the PL season may finish, the EFL might not, because they don't have the same financial resources to put on a 2 to 3 game-a-week closed doors televised tournament with hotel-bound for the month teams.

If that happens then the decisions about promotion and relegation to and from the PL should be negotiated AFTER the PL season finishes otherwise it will spoil the PL season end and all the bottom 7 excitement, because it's a real dog fight down there with some big names.

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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by TVC15 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:20 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:09 pm
Leeds have bet the ranch on this season, if they don't go up it will take a few years for them to re-gather themselves for another push. If they do go up I expect an announcement of a new investor very quickly

as to the original OP - that would be No, Nay, Never
Not sure they have “bet the ranch” this season. The debt / losses are accumulating but a Leeds fan I know they got rid of some players since the last year end.
Watching the thing on Prime about them even though I hate them I am quite impressed with the way they have gone about things this time round and their owners have deep pockets and the likes of San Francisco 49s also have a part stake.
Not saying they don’t need to go up because they do - this year or next year - partly because they won’t be able to keep hold of their manager and better players. But they seem to me to be in much better shape on and off the pitch

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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by Clarets4me » Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:25 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:52 am
I'd start by asking Frank Casper for a date on when they should be forgiven, and he's not the only one.
A very good point CT, can't wait to see " Devil's Advocate's " view on this one ! :D

Oh, and to answer the OP .... No !

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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by Woodleyclaret » Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:28 pm

Never .an odious team who have flaunted the finacial rules many times by use of very creative tactics
I was there as we trounced Leeds and Hunters tackle has to be the worsr I have seen.
The only positive in this seasons problems is the voiding the season keeps Leeds down
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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by Dazzler » Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:28 pm

Leeds forever.....I will despise.

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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by Buxtonclaret » Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:30 pm

Never.

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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by Jimmymaccer » Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:39 pm

Won’t they all be stranded in Europe?

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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by Clarets4me » Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:58 pm

Funkydrummer wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:39 am
Narr, narr, narr. Never ever going to happen .... The link is to one of the best days of my Burnley Football Club supporting life. (apart from the Casper/Hunter episode) . Enjoy to the mamimum, because we all did on the day, and dined on it for years and years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyaJx3Fgdws

(By the way, sit down and shut up, yer twohat !!)
The ironic thing is this wasn't just match highlights, it was a documentary team from one of the ITV companies filming the " mighty Leeds United ", and their Manager in late March to show their methods, team spirit etc, on their stroll to be title by 5 points ( 2pts for a win, back then ) ... I don't think a 1-4 home defeat, to a side only promoted that season was in the script !!

I bet Revie ripped into them after the cameras were turned off ... 8-)
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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by jojomk1 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:03 pm

A very well supported club - highest gates in the Championship this season averaging over 30,000
A very well respected manager (inc by Pep) - pity he still can't speak english
Playing very good football
What's not to respect (grudgingly at least)

Clearly, some people need to move on
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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by Joe Buck » Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:07 pm

Not until I get my scarf back. Taken off me 73/74 on Yorkshire St.

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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by tim_noone » Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:13 pm

Always loved playing leeds in the sixties and into the seventies... city utd Liverpool everton stoke west ham etc... I probably wouldn't have bothered if it was the likes of Fulham and west Brom every week. THe Cricketfield End was a Fantastic terrace.Especially when Leeds turned up!

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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by Funkydrummer » Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:21 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:03 pm
A very well supported club - highest gates in the Championship this season averaging over 30,000
A very well respected manager (inc by Pep) - pity he still can't speak english
Playing very good football
What's not to respect (grudgingly at least)

Clearly, some people need to move on
They WILL be well supported, they are the only team in a large city with a
population of over 3/4 million, and an urban population in excess of 2 million.
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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by bobinho » Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:27 pm

Very well supported away from home... Excellent in fact. Home support? Not very good at all. Sure this year it's been good, but they've been hovering around the top of the table all season, so it should be good. Previous seasons have been very poor for a club their size, with their catchment area and the fact they share their city with no-one.

Classless and arrogant fans. Don't like 'em one iota.

Biggest blight on the English game is the blatant cheating we suffer from week in week out, all brought about by Revie's insistence of them behaving like they did on the pitch - they didn't just behave like thugs, they were masters of play acting, feigning injury regularly to get players booked/sent off. Great shame really because technically they were excellent.

So NO. Dirty leeds will always be just that for me...dirty. By all means you move on if you want to, I'm not going to... I enjoy my dislike of them, they earned it after all.
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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by Clarets4me » Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:35 pm

tim_noone wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:13 pm
Always loved playing leeds in the sixties and into the seventies... city utd Liverpool everton stoke west ham etc... I probably wouldn't have bothered if it was the likes of Fulham and west Brom every week. THe Cricketfield End was a Fantastic terrace.Especially when Leeds turned up!
I knew a Yorkshire-man like you would side with Leeds ! :roll:

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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by Claret Toni » Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:38 pm

Time to forgive?

When Hell freezes over

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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by chekhov » Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:57 pm

Yeah, Leeds.
Terrific history and great support. Under Bielsa playing lovely, flowing football.
It’ll be a treat to see them back in the top tier.
Bring it on I say!

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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:02 pm

I think Brian Clough summed it up when he told them to throw all their medals in a bin because they never won owt fairly. Not daft about Clough but he had a point.

Probably contributed to him losing his job early.

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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by tim_noone » Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:04 pm

Clarets4me wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:35 pm
I knew a Yorkshire-man like you would side with Leeds ! :roll:
I just like a little edge to a game...and the tension on the terraces as was.....I can confirm though I Do Dislike Leeds. But I do Like Yorkshire. :D

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Re: Dirty Leeds - Time to forgive?

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:31 pm

Arsehole place, arsehole fans and arsehole club.
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